Discontinued VRIPtech Heating Wand

[stonemonkey55]

progress and CD - I am on my way to procuring a kick ass n3rd inline ash catcher that is going to be the crowning jewel to my vaporizer set up. The photos of his work are very impressive and I feel blessed to have such a talented artist so close to me. I am still trying to figure out what kind of designs I would like on mine, I guess that is the fun part.

So are you saying the proportions of the inline is what affects it's performance? Is that something I should mention to him or does it go without saying when they create these things? I've been watching his Stickam and he is one funny dude, it's great watching him perform his craft.

I'll be sure to post my own video once I get mine, I can't wait

 

[Progress]

Typing from my phone, but (SM-So are you saying the proportions of the inline is what affects it's performance? Is that something I should mention to him or does it go without saying when they create these things?) Q#1 Yes Q#2 Maybe let him know your preferences (thick/cool/tight or free/water level etc.) and what tools you may be using it with (GonG size/pull power/vap/etc.)

Hope this helps...Sorry so short (must tend to my snow bunny)

 

[stonemonkey55]

Progress, I know I have said this before, but I am so jealous that you are skiing/snowboarding right now. The mountains are about 3 hours away for me and Tahoe did get some really nice snow recently...

Anyhow, I will definitely let N3rd know what kind of setup the inline will be attached to. I think I will use the Jamaican flag colors on the glass itself and pay homage to MMA (mixed martial arts) somewhere on the glass piece.

I cannot wait!!!!!!

 

[420Downunder]

I have a couple of N3rd inlines, one with holes and a larger one with slits, they're awesome when smoking but tbh I don't even use them when vaping through my tubes. All it seemed to do was create a bad condensation point for the vapor so you definitely lost some THC. Does look cool though
I actually ordered a triple chambered Sovereignty Glass Tube with 2x 8 arm percs yesterday (I still prefer to smoke my bubblehash and drysift, it's more vaping really as there's virtually no plant matter left).

 

[Acolyte of Zinglon]

maybe you could get clear dome to send you one of his extract bowls for that

 

[stonemonkey55]

If I get any performance increase with the inline, I will consider that as icing on the cake. I won't be using water filtration in he waterpipe tho, just the ashcatcher and will fill the waterpipe with as much ice as possible. I prefer free flowing air path by if the inline ac adds some drag, at least it will slow down my inhales a bit. I realized that I have been wasting quite a bit of the effectiveness of my vapor by exhalin Too quickly. Kinda think this is the reason why the pd packs such a punch with so little medicine because it forces you to take 10 second hits.... I'm just thinking out loud now

 

[Progress]

420 Dowunder: "I have a couple of N3rd inlines, one with holes and a larger one with slits, they're awesome when smoking but tbh I don't even use them when vaping through my tubes. All it seemed to do was create a bad condensation point for the vapor so you definitely lost some THC. Does look cool though cool"

SM & 420D - I agree that they act as an extra condensation point (IMO all water tools do). I only vape, and use an inline gadgito (HOPS bub) often with a PD, an Extreme, a Surfer, etc. and love it.

420D, are all three of your in-lines ash-catchers? Also, I heard you say bush dak somewhere (reminds me of something that a girl from Sydney I met at a festival kept saying ).

I understand a little about the physics behind the performance of such in-lines, but am no expert (just a consumer who tries to be informed).

I won't be using water filtration in he waterpipe tho, just the ashcatcher and will fill the waterpipe with as much ice as possible.

SM-I like the idea. I also like using as little ice as necessary to keep the vapor comfortable and flavorful (it sometimes loses flavor when the vapor is too cold--and contributes to condensation too). If you're up for an experiment one day try warm water in the front and nothing in the VRIP Pro .

I look foreword to any insight people offer .

 

[stonemonkey55]

Just took a vape utilizing your technique and it was very enjoyable. Interesting how a change in the temp of the water can affect the overall experience. I actually think that I can taste the flavors better when I use more ice. I would say that the difference in flavors is more prevalent with the warm water while the cold water gives you a higher concentration of similar flavors, if that makes any sense.

Having different ways of vaping is always a nice bonus! Thanks Progress... Do you feel that you get thicker vapors when using the inlines? It sure seems like you get thicker smoke. You get pretty fat vapor rips with the VHW and if this could increase the vapor to air ratio even more, that would be an added benefit. If it doesn't, I'm not complaining, the little kid in me just likes to watch vapor appear from the slits.

 

[Progress]

SM - "Just took a vape utilizing your technique and it was very enjoyable. Interesting how a change in the temp of the water can affect the overall experience. I actually think that I can taste the flavors better when I use more ice. I would say that the difference in flavors is more prevalent with the warm water while the cold water gives you a higher concentration of similar flavors, if that makes any sense."

Cool, (I mean...warm? )...anyhow, Just did a side by side in an upright (to mimic yours) while waiting for friends to finish getting ready to go home (cold then warm--safety first ). Flavors come through for both, but it feels like when you have a good beer (when cold it is crisp, smooth, and refreshing, but as it warms the flavors--malts, hops, yeast aromas, etc.--deepen). Total speculation, but this could have something to do with the ability of the tongue to detect flavors at different temperatures. I would guess that the tongue would detect flavors best at the external temp of the tongue (room temperature, I think). That may be why a device like the gadgito (HOPS-bub) seems to deliver the most flavor (it is able to manually cool the vapor to room temperature without going below). It also explains why (even the sweetest tasting herbs and oils) create vapor that tastes sharp and sticky when it is too warm/hot. Cant wait till you can experiment with your new toy

Do you feel that you get thicker vapors when using the inlines?

SM - Depends what you are comparing it to, but I would say (overall) yes. When you use a straight tube (or beaker-bottom) cooling/filtration chamber the steam tends to elongate and mix with air as it travels up the open area. Tilting the chamber (or the bend in the VWT/VPWT) helps, but IMO pales in comparison to the ability of a well crafted inline to prevent this mixing (therefore seeming, IMO, relatively more concentrated). Does the VPWT have a diffuser (I prefer marbles/stars/etc.--and think diffused down-stems are a waste of $, but IMO they DO help increase diffusion nonetheless).

On one other note, I was thinking of something:
If you are not getting a stock inline perc (i.e. requesting colors, etc.) would you be interested in asking him (would he be able to) make an inline perc that comes with a mouthpiece which has a female joint that could be attached to the inline perc using the Illadelph clips to make it transform into a hand-held, inline WT (two for the price of one--well, plus the extra part/work ).

PS: I look foreword to my eventual move out to Cali (soon enough...) and reciprocate your jealousy (especially as we begin this long, Long, LONG drive home ) OK, lets beat traffic...Caravan Away!

 

[stonemonkey55]

Progress - You are a frigging genius, I didn't even thing about how adding one piece could essentially turn it into a handheld. I'll edit this when i have more time, got a friend over that wants to try the VHW...

 

[stonemonkey55]

Progress, is this what you were talking about? To make the ash catcher turn into a bubbler?

 

[Progress]

Progress, is this what you were talking about? To make the ash catcher turn into a bubbler?

Yes, SM, that would work. An experienced and attentive glass-blower could work with you to figure out what would work best with the particular piece you are getting and your personal preferences (comfortable to hold/use, durable, tight/loose/even, etc.)

Is that a pic of something you already have, a pic he sent you, a pic you found?...

Also, the plastic, joint-securing clip could definitely help prevent any possible accidents

Well, I just entered the back seat of the driving rotation (the person in shotgun is on deck, etc.) I might as well enjoy the music, the scenery and the fog

Now for the PD battery...

Oh please, oh please, oh please
Won't somebody in technology
Make a PD battery for me
*Is that a Haiku--jk

Toke it easy!

 

[stonemonkey55]

Progress - yeah, that is a piece that n3rd had showed me that would work. He said that he could make a much better inline bubbler that was one piece than the two piece you had suggested. I figured it could be the same design and then you could saw it in half at the mouth piece portion and then grind down the glass. He said it didn't worth that way and that he couldn't get the same balance with a two piece that he could get if it were one singular piece.

At the end of the day, even if I didn't attach this to the A/C to make it into a handheld, I could just use it as a VHW pipe of sorts. Basically this would take the place of a silicone whip.

Progress, you seem to very particular about the way that you vape. I am surprised that the silicone/food grade tubes don't bother you. For me, they affect the taste and has always been the "weak link" in my quest for the perfect, all glass vaporizer.

To answer your earlier question, the VWT doesn't use a diffuser, just a standard down stem. I was actually thinking of asking nerd to make a full length diffuser so that I could drop in the inline a/c into the VWT that way, but I like the modular approach you mentioned better.

Unfortunately, I have to wait 2-3 weeks before he can do my piece.

420downunder - N3rd says he is very happy and impressed and surprised that his pieces have made it all the way to the other side of the planet!

 

[Progress]

SM-yeah, that is a piece that n3rd had showed me that would work. He said that he could make a much better inline bubbler that was one piece than the two piece you had suggested. I figured it could be the same design and then you could saw it in half at the mouth piece portion and then grind down the glass. He said it didn't worth that way and that he couldn't get the same balance with a two piece that he could get if it were one singular piece.

SM-I imagine it would be tough (and not worthwhile) to customize a hand-held that is already made, but if he could figure out a way to make such a creation (while keeping it dually functional and comfortable to hold/insert) I am almost certain it would sell VERY well (especially if the mouthpiece was made available separately and connected to existing pieces--how do you out-fantastic fantastic ).

My vote would be to A) get the attachment for your VPWT and the attachment to make it a handheld (or to use alone) B) get the hand-held (or an inline upright if he makes those) and carefully add beads/marbles if interested in more diffusion in your VPWT. **I don't know the VHW well enough to really comment.

SM-Progress, you seem to very particular about the way that you vape. I am surprised that the silicone/food grade tubes don't bother you. For me, they affect the taste and has always been the "weak link" in my quest for the perfect, all glass vaporizer.

Safety/health is my primary concern (Tygon Chemflour tubing is what I like to use), but I do enjoy the flavor of quality herbs/oils as well (convenience, efficiency, durability, etc. matter too). If something better becomes available and I can afford it, I may be interested in purchasing a new unit (I look foreword to hearing more about the VHW after it has been out for a little while--and look foreword to other future developments in the market). I wonder if a glass version of what I recently suggested in the PD forum (heat on demand/compatible with any pipe) would be possible (similar to VHW, but with more versatility). So far, all of the quality (quality) units I have tried seem about on par when it comes to flavor once you become familiar with them (flavor seems to depend more on herbs/oils and draw technique).

420downunder - N3rd says he is very happy and impressed and surprised that his pieces have made it all the way to the other side of the planet!

That is impressive (three of them nonetheless ).

All in all (when it comes down to it) you just have to trust the value that the glassblower places on his reputation (fortunately N3RD has a good one ), try to clearly communicate to him what you are interested in getting, and hope it translates into the piece you were envisioning with the performance you desired. It is really nice of N3RD to work with you to give you what you want .

Toke it easy!

 

[stonemonkey55]

I have the Tygon Chemflour as well! I think it's the best tubing out there based on my research. While it performs amicably, I think there is a very slight additive flavor that I can pick up on. Who knows? Maybe if they did a blind taste test, I could be proven wrong, but I'm pretty confident that if someone handed me a hand held that was connected a whip based vape, and one connected directly to the VHW, I'm pretty sure I could tell you which one was connected to the hose. At the end of the day, the difference is minor, but if you want to be a vapor snob, I think you could nit pick the added flavor of the hose. You don't notice any difference when you hit the Verdamper versus hitting your other vapes?

I was looking for your post in the PD thread about the vapor on demand, couldn't find it, long thread you know! Could you tell me what page it's on? I'd like to read more about it? I think of the VHW as vapor on demand, pretty much can leave it on all the time, and the VCB is quite versatile, easy to hook up to other things. Is this inline (no pun intended) with what you were thinking of? Maybe I just need to read the thread. One thing I do like about VRIPtech is that everything will/should be modular. So if he makes any upgrades to the VCB/VWT/VHW, you might need to just replace one or two things, instead of the entire system. I know that lower bowls with GG joints is def high on his list though and probably the biggest improvement that he can make from the get go. The standard slide stems work fine (since the VWT accepts that) but I can see why folks would want to keep the GG joint thing going with their fine glass pieces already.

Progress - you mind posting up some pics of your glass toys?

 

[Progress]

You don't notice any difference when you hit the Verdamper versus hitting your other vapes?

SM- I do. It has huge (unmatched?) volume and delivery speed, as well as fantastic initial flavor, but (without temp control) the flavor fades to 'popcorn' (this period can be stretched if skilled and familiar). Oh yeah, it has a niCad heating element too--still rocks!

I was looking for your post in the PD thread about the vapor on demand, couldn't find it, long thread you know! Could you tell me what page it's on? I'd like to read more about it?

PD post #1180

 

[stonemonkey55]

Ahh, I forgot about the lack of temp control on the Verdamper, at least it is dialed in for the right herb....LOL. Wouldn't one of the Verdamper downstems drop right into one of your inlines?

I've also been using your warm water technique and I do believe you could a fuller spectrum of flavors - although I still think the ice gives you a stronger flavor but for a smaller spectrum. I was getting too faded to keep conducting tests on myself, but I guess that's half the fun of this hobby. LOL

 

[Progress]

Almost home (that's when the driving rotation pays off )

Anywho,

SM-Wouldn't one of the Verdamper down-stems drop right into one of your inlines?

No, Way too big (very odd dimensions across the board). Would require serious pimping (funny how sex trade terms have worked their way into the tech industry).

Have a happy and safe new year (I read in the Chinese calender that this is the year of the monkey--ok, I am a pathological liar, but it sounded cool, right?

Toke Care!

 

[stonemonkey55]

Wow, you guys have been driving for a while now...at least you guys are back in time for New Years! I looked it up, it will be the year of the ox, StoneOx just don't have the same ring to it, lol.

Toke care!

Hey, if you ever get a chance, I'd like to see some pics of your pieces!

 

[Hennessy1414]

I think in about 2-3 more weeks. The first series where all handblown and the production units will have some additional tooling to make them more consistent from unit to unit. I'll shoot Mark from VRIPtech to get an update. Last night, i was able to get a ice shaving machine so that I filled out my entire bong with shaved ice and then took some vapor rips. OMG!!!!! I don't know if the coolness made the vapor denser or what other factors were introduced with this method, but I got the thickest, least throat irratating, hit I have ever experienced. Damn, do I really want to invest in an ice shaving machine now????

ahahha 2-3 more weeks...damn that was a long time ago

still no e-mail from mark

(waiting)

 

[Progress]

So much things to say..so little time .

SM-Last night, i was able to get a ice shaving machine so that I filled out my entire bong with shaved ice and then took some vapor rips. OMG!!!!! I don't know if the coolness made the vapor denser or what other factors were introduced with this method, but I got the thickest, least throat irratating, hit I have ever experienced.

Ice chips may have physically obstructed the elongating of the steam (like marbles,tube shape, etc. does). Oldskool snow-cone making machines can be cheap (I had a Snoopy one with a crank--no motor). Check E-bay maybe?

SM- No pics...(sorry). I hope that's cool w/ U

bak 2 work (that's what I get 4 taking holiday)

 

[stonemonkey55]

Progress - no worries on the pics...I just use my food processor to crush my ice although I do remember the Snoopy sno cone machine with the crank. Ahh, the memories! I'll vape one for you today, at least you had good times in the mountains last week. I might go to Oregon in a few weeks for a bachelor's party and do some snowmobiling, should be good times!

 

[Beezleb]

I remember that snoopy snow cone maker, mmm, cherry. My sister had an easy bake oven hehe.

 

[stonemonkey55]

LOL, what a concept, using a light bulb to bake your food...I guess that's not much weirder than people using a lightbulb to vape...

 

[stonemonkey55]

Just heard back from n3rdglass, unfortunately he is out of 18.8 gg joints so it looks like I will have to wait a little longer before I get my masterpiece. It will be nice though, he's going to make it with the Jamaican flag colors. When I thought about it, those are the same colors for VRIPtech too! I guess it was meant to be.

Has anyone else gotten a VHW yet? I think I remember Mark saying he was going to be shipping last week/this week? Hennesy, when did mark say they would ship?