paytonpenn
Level 30 Nature/Healer
Did you watch their G1 bag video, the glass piece probably won't be the same but it's not really like yet another adapter. I was thinking something like the concentrate bowl with an eq type whip setup.
Discontinued Versa Infinity - The Glass Vaporizer
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TheSkipper
Smooth sailing while I'm inhaling... VAPOR
I have been playing with this today. Very effective in stopping overbrowning and IMO promotes more covection than the original bowl setup.I'll explain soon... Need to upload more pics...
Ok... Here we go. I found a way to not charr my herbs anymore. Even at 116 or 118V. Fluctuates in my line. Even with boost I didn't combust in 3 consecutive bowls. I vaped the herb till no more vapor came with boost on for enough time...
--- 1st I took the screen included out
----2nd I capped the male end with a EQ
---3rd loose load till the top of the joint
Start vaping around 60 70 80 116
One stirring needed midway.
Boost to kill...
Always leave bowl in Y adapter to avoid burns...
This pic was taken after waiting minutes to chill down. Bowl taken out with tongs because it was stuck to male heater
Results .... Pretty vaked... Taste still I can't figure out what's off.
I don't find it tastes better than my Solo at 3 or 5. Or Nano. Or Cloud + or EVO.
Flavor stays there till 70V (with same strain used in all units)
ABV is really even with this method.
Full extraction for sure. Very good extraction IMO. It browns like a Solo but is totally even.
Been trying to test concentrate bowl, but I think native as it is, oil runs down freely. It's still one dab and wait 10 + minutes for cooling down bowl and frit to dab again
I have a ceramic disk/filter that will fit properly on top of the frit...
Sucks to be alone beta testing... I get really high
Later...
EDIT: Also I just made amazing strides intaking small effective cloudy dabs. Simply place a dab on the bottom of an and slide it in the male end. Hit on max with boost. If you want to use bigger dabs you need too stuff the ELB with ss screen otherwise most of the oil concentrate will ooze down the ELB. I will have a video later but I am too far gone right now.
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Zangano Cruel
IG zan.cru (code) zancru (5% NV checkout discount)
I've been non stop night shed testing till power outage yesterday due to very strong winds in the NW ...
Here's some info and a video... Editing
I need to try later for concentrates. This EQ cap (with or w/o cotton) will sit like this, alone,or a la mini-EQ.ELB between the frit of the concentrate bowl and the heater as shown...
This try with an ELB, end it up combusting when boosted...
I'll be very careful IMO and don't use boost ever and stay on the lower 60V
And here's the new trick...
I added the provided SS screen again, very cumbersome to put it back again.
Use the female GonG to suck herb, this is cold of course
Cap with EQ the male end...
And here we are, HT ready to go...
ABV is really even. Full extraction...
Video is editing. Watch in 1080HD...
I'm thinking that I should have entered Enrico's contest to imitate him,
We have close accents, jajaja
What I like about the Infinity so far, is the fast response to thick vapor using boost. Wake & Bake turning unit from off to 116V, load inverted with EQ cap only... Fire the boost and you get that rush of thick vapor from almost the cold start. That's cool.
So here's the video…
Stay vaped...
Here's some info and a video... Editing
I need to try later for concentrates. This EQ cap (with or w/o cotton) will sit like this, alone,or a la mini-EQ.ELB between the frit of the concentrate bowl and the heater as shown...
This try with an ELB, end it up combusting when boosted...
I'll be very careful IMO and don't use boost ever and stay on the lower 60V
And here's the new trick...
I added the provided SS screen again, very cumbersome to put it back again.
Use the female GonG to suck herb, this is cold of course
Cap with EQ the male end...
And here we are, HT ready to go...
ABV is really even. Full extraction...
Video is editing. Watch in 1080HD...
I'm thinking that I should have entered Enrico's contest to imitate him,
We have close accents, jajajaWhat I like about the Infinity so far, is the fast response to thick vapor using boost. Wake & Bake turning unit from off to 116V, load inverted with EQ cap only... Fire the boost and you get that rush of thick vapor from almost the cold start. That's cool.
So here's the video…
Stay vaped...
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TheSkipper
Smooth sailing while I'm inhaling... VAPOR
As promised, a dab video 110 volts boost the whole time
110 volts boost the whole time
TheSkipper
Smooth sailing while I'm inhaling... VAPOR
I do not have a concentrate bowl but, if you can improvise, the flower bowl will also work for concentrates.As promised, a dab video
EDIT: I meant to reply to this
Are you guys using the optional screens for the concentrate bowl?
Globbs
Well-Known Member
I was so excited to get home from work today because i knew my mk2 had been delivered. First impression was that my fedex box was a bit roughed up. Upon opening the box i could here that lovely sound if jingling glass pieces. Oh yay! I open the case and.... broken glass everywhere. The entire bottom of the unit is broken as well as the glass heater cover. So bummed! Even the heater control unit sounds as if something is broken inside. I recieved no extras, no tongs, lavender salve, nothing. Feeling slightly disappointed. Off to contact chris, and so it begins.
grokit
well-worn member
Latest on the concentrate bowl/screen:
"They are just SS screens that you can put the dab on rather than directly on the frit. Its not needed and likely we will be refunding people that 99 cents if they ordered it because we gave screens but I dont think anyone is using them for frit.
Originally we were going to use glass frit pucks in the 18mm flowers bowl and that was going to be the concentrates screen. Our glass blower wouldnt allow us to buy just frit discs for some reason.
However, I hope to see a nail type dome being used in 18mm adapters for the vapes some day. It seems to work even better than the fritted adapter especially for eliminating drip. Our convection vaporizer seems to annihilate concentrates on blowby contact very efficiently. I hope to see @GR make some progress in testing that."
"They are just SS screens that you can put the dab on rather than directly on the frit. Its not needed and likely we will be refunding people that 99 cents if they ordered it because we gave screens but I dont think anyone is using them for frit.
Originally we were going to use glass frit pucks in the 18mm flowers bowl and that was going to be the concentrates screen. Our glass blower wouldnt allow us to buy just frit discs for some reason.
However, I hope to see a nail type dome being used in 18mm adapters for the vapes some day. It seems to work even better than the fritted adapter especially for eliminating drip. Our convection vaporizer seems to annihilate concentrates on blowby contact very efficiently. I hope to see @GR make some progress in testing that."
The vapor production was better than it looks in the video. I'll try to capture it better next time. I used the 'pulse boost' method.
Mr. Gweilo 420
Dude
99 cent refunds? Wtf? This gets weirder every day. 
Mister G
Deceptively Old Fart
Here's what I posted on the Versa forum:
Finally received my Infinity after what seemed like for-ev-er. I've had some time with it, a few hours and many bowls later....
TLDR: Overall:
(3.5/5 stars) I realize this is a test period and changes are planned, but this is an initial rating of what I see so far. IMO Works well, medicates as intended, gets hot but not prohibitively so when using flower voltages (see others for more focus on concentrate use), some issues with even abv browning (Donut Holes), nice quality construction (thick glass) but body extremities (ends, edges, openings) possibly fragile or prone to blemish.
Long version:
Fedex teased me this morning and a truck showed up about 1045am, I thought I heard him at the door but when I checked, no package, no truck outside. I was hitting my sublimator ufo while I waited, so maybe I was hallucinating. anyways, it showed up a couple hours later. Here's the package, you'll see in the picture - scroll below the list of contents.- smilies are random but could mean my general feel for the item, no smiley=n/a:
--Black plastic case - medium quality, nifty latch system (push out with thumbs, feels sturdy, can be padlocked), mid-grade eggshell foam interior. Good value case, does the job, not a ton of added cost to the manufacturer.
--Versa Infinity Heater and 6-sided base - mine has a red cap but unfortunately the mouth arrived with slight blemish 
ops: - see below. I like the base it is sturdy, I like that it isn't round but six sided, it can double as a bowl holder (18mm nests on inside of male joint) and how it mates with the unit is just plain cool and sexy (no innuendo intended unless you see it that way in your dirty mind 
)
--Digital control unit - my only gripe with this is that it's a bit finicky to dial in and just bumping it slightly nudges the voltage up or down. Otherwise, it's digital readout is easy to read and the blue lit background isn't bright or garish.
--Silicon tipped tongs. I can handle the bowl fine with the tongs, but the tongs are cheap and get stuck in locked position too easily. It doesn't matter as I don't seem to have any problem grabbing the bowl with my fingers, although it could be made easier and more ergonomic, I have some ideas on that below.
--2 Stir Sticks - good and work well, but way too long, I might have to break them up into more stir sticks, at least half the length, otherwise, they keep getting in the way of stuff as I lay them on the table.
--3 screens (bowls also come with screen pre installed). They are a fine mesh, mine is getting a bit gunked up from use, cleaning tips would be helpful.
--18mm flower bowl and 14 mm flower bowl, but I'm just using the 18mm right now. I can handle a hot bowl with the nub, but it could be greatly improved. Sublimator atomizers have a nice handle, but I think they are too long and a knock over hazard. My suggestion would be a flat flared out nub about the size of a guitar pick maybe curved downward for the thumb to grab more firmly and maybe also be cooler to the touch (more surface area).
--2 dome screens (in baggie) which also come with two smaller flat circle screens, I'm not sure yet what to do with those (have an idea, but want to wait for official word), I think an instructional video is forthcoming from Versa. Should allow for vertical use was my guess/hope.
When I picked up the Infinity to inspect, I found the mouth had a chip and interior cracks, I can report that it is fully functional, but I consider this a "blemished" unit. I did not notice any browning of wires from the off gassing as was mentioned above. Here's a picture of the mouth, you might only see the angled crack, but if you look closely, you can you see the fissure under the surface going almost all the way around the circumference. Again, this appears to be mostly cosmetic thank dog:
First impressions - easy to plug in and use, I could operate it with one hand although it could be a little bit stuck on the base. Unlike others, I did not find it too hot to handle, but bear in mind I am coming from a Sublimator UFO, if you don't know what that is you better ask someone.
So the heat from this is nothing to me, I grab it at the bottom, under the red cap, but sometimes when inverting, my fingers press up against the hot end, the hottest I touched was about 88v, but it didn't hurt me or anything I felt afraid of. I can see anyone who doesn't know what a vape is might be surprised or turned away from that heat but this is true for way too many vapes besides this one to consider it a flaw in my opinion. Maybe this is different for oils/waxes but I'm not doing concentrates, so those voltage experiences will have to be left to others.
Below is a quick pic of the setup, I'm using an Atomic Recycler, you can see the green ness of the material (C99), the red cap in the Infinity on it's base, my silicon tray and the control unit on 72. I tried higher v's 78, 85, 88 and found them too hot and the abv too cooked. I must keep experimenting though. Either way, all of those test voltages produced good clouds and medicated to good effect...I had to take a breakops: ...all in the name of science.
The keck clip you see if for the adapter that the Versa bowl is sitting in, I didn't have any issue whatsoever with the versa bowl sticking into the Infinity, didn't happen once, probably because it seems to fit snug into the aforementioned adapter. The stir stick as you can see is ridiculously long, gets in the way really, but it's pointy woody end is necessary for stirring and scraping the screen.
Here's the bowl after a pull. You can see the v went down to 71 because I bumped it with the Infinity as I put it back on its base. Here is what I am calling a "Donut Hole" as the center of the material is browned up more than the surrounding material, this was after one pull. I'm finding I'm getting 3 decent pulls per bowl of about a thumbnail's worth (sorry I don't measure).
What I've done to compensate is use the stir stick to pile the material into the center of the bowl. Then when stirring between hits, I try to pile it into the center again. Not perfect, but I think it's better than just stirring randomly. Here's a closeup of my ABV after 3 hits on 72v, boost only used at the end of the third pull. It's not that even and some looks kinda combustive dark - pick below looks more green than it really is, must be my camera on macro. I did a session earlier with much more even brown abv like ZC's pic above but didn't take a pic o_O IKR?
I have more testing to do, but can definitely say this vaporizer works if you are looking for something to get you medicated efficiently, is capable of sizeable clouds and that operates well with water tools. The heat hazard IMO is no worse than many other vapes on the market but perhaps is an area for safety/usability innovation.
The Donut Holing is one thing I'd like to see addressed. I have an idea I plan to try where I'm going to take an NO2 "Hat" screen and try to cut a hole in one of the stock Versa screens and make one very large "nipple" screen which will make it easier to pile the herb into the middle where the heat is focused. Alternatively, maybe the interior of the bowl could be shaped in a way (conical?) that does something similar. Just a couple of ideas, they may suck :confused: but I'm going to experiment with the NO2 screen thing since I can do that on my own.
All in all I am enjoying the Infinity and will keep using it. It has probably replaced my UFO as a DD since I was getting tired of the open flame and this also heats up faster, is more temp consistent and can be left powered for on demand use. Will be very interesting to see where this product goes from here, I will continue to update my usage and post additional findings or suggestions.
Boy, that was long, sorry to bore you. Time for another test run
Finally received my Infinity after what seemed like for-ev-er. I've had some time with it, a few hours and many bowls later....
TLDR: Overall:
(3.5/5 stars) I realize this is a test period and changes are planned, but this is an initial rating of what I see so far. IMO Works well, medicates as intended, gets hot but not prohibitively so when using flower voltages (see others for more focus on concentrate use), some issues with even abv browning (Donut Holes), nice quality construction (thick glass) but body extremities (ends, edges, openings) possibly fragile or prone to blemish.Long version:
Fedex teased me this morning and a truck showed up about 1045am, I thought I heard him at the door but when I checked, no package, no truck outside. I was hitting my sublimator ufo while I waited, so maybe I was hallucinating. anyways, it showed up a couple hours later. Here's the package, you'll see in the picture - scroll below the list of contents.- smilies are random but could mean my general feel for the item, no smiley=n/a:
--
Black plastic case - medium quality, nifty latch system (push out with thumbs, feels sturdy, can be padlocked), mid-grade eggshell foam interior. Good value case, does the job, not a ton of added cost to the manufacturer.--
Versa Infinity Heater and 6-sided base - mine has a red cap but unfortunately the mouth arrived with slight blemish ops: - see below. I like the base it is sturdy, I like that it isn't round but six sided, it can double as a bowl holder (18mm nests on inside of male joint) and how it mates with the unit is just plain cool and sexy (no innuendo intended unless you see it that way in your dirty mind )--
Digital control unit - my only gripe with this is that it's a bit finicky to dial in and just bumping it slightly nudges the voltage up or down. Otherwise, it's digital readout is easy to read and the blue lit background isn't bright or garish.--
Silicon tipped tongs. I can handle the bowl fine with the tongs, but the tongs are cheap and get stuck in locked position too easily. It doesn't matter as I don't seem to have any problem grabbing the bowl with my fingers, although it could be made easier and more ergonomic, I have some ideas on that below.--
2 Stir Sticks - good and work well, but way too long, I might have to break them up into more stir sticks, at least half the length, otherwise, they keep getting in the way of stuff as I lay them on the table.--3 screens (bowls also come with screen pre installed). They are a fine mesh, mine is getting a bit gunked up from use, cleaning tips would be helpful.
--
18mm flower bowl and 14 mm flower bowl, but I'm just using the 18mm right now. I can handle a hot bowl with the nub, but it could be greatly improved. Sublimator atomizers have a nice handle, but I think they are too long and a knock over hazard. My suggestion would be a flat flared out nub about the size of a guitar pick maybe curved downward for the thumb to grab more firmly and maybe also be cooler to the touch (more surface area).--2 dome screens (in baggie) which also come with two smaller flat circle screens, I'm not sure yet what to do with those (have an idea, but want to wait for official word), I think an instructional video is forthcoming from Versa. Should allow for vertical use was my guess/hope.
When I picked up the Infinity to inspect, I found the mouth had a chip and interior cracks, I can report that it is fully functional, but I consider this a "blemished" unit. I did not notice any browning of wires from the off gassing as was mentioned above. Here's a picture of the mouth, you might only see the angled crack, but if you look closely, you can you see the fissure under the surface going almost all the way around the circumference. Again, this appears to be mostly cosmetic thank dog:
First impressions - easy to plug in and use, I could operate it with one hand although it could be a little bit stuck on the base. Unlike others, I did not find it too hot to handle, but bear in mind I am coming from a Sublimator UFO, if you don't know what that is you better ask someone.
So the heat from this is nothing to me, I grab it at the bottom, under the red cap, but sometimes when inverting, my fingers press up against the hot end, the hottest I touched was about 88v, but it didn't hurt me or anything I felt afraid of. I can see anyone who doesn't know what a vape is might be surprised or turned away from that heat but this is true for way too many vapes besides this one to consider it a flaw in my opinion. Maybe this is different for oils/waxes but I'm not doing concentrates, so those voltage experiences will have to be left to others.Below is a quick pic of the setup, I'm using an Atomic Recycler, you can see the green ness of the material (C99), the red cap in the Infinity on it's base, my silicon tray and the control unit on 72. I tried higher v's 78, 85, 88 and found them too hot and the abv too cooked. I must keep experimenting though. Either way, all of those test voltages produced good clouds and medicated to good effect...I had to take a break
ops: ...all in the name of science.The keck clip you see if for the adapter that the Versa bowl is sitting in, I didn't have any issue whatsoever with the versa bowl sticking into the Infinity, didn't happen once, probably because it seems to fit snug into the aforementioned adapter. The stir stick as you can see is ridiculously long, gets in the way really, but it's pointy woody end is necessary for stirring and scraping the screen.
Here's the bowl after a pull. You can see the v went down to 71 because I bumped it with the Infinity as I put it back on its base. Here is what I am calling a "Donut Hole" as the center of the material is browned up more than the surrounding material, this was after one pull. I'm finding I'm getting 3 decent pulls per bowl of about a thumbnail's worth (sorry I don't measure).
What I've done to compensate is use the stir stick to pile the material into the center of the bowl. Then when stirring between hits, I try to pile it into the center again. Not perfect, but I think it's better than just stirring randomly. Here's a closeup of my ABV after 3 hits on 72v, boost only used at the end of the third pull. It's not that even and some looks kinda combustive dark - pick below looks more green than it really is, must be my camera on macro. I did a session earlier with much more even brown abv like ZC's pic above but didn't take a pic o_O IKR?
I have more testing to do, but can definitely say this vaporizer works if you are looking for something to get you medicated efficiently, is capable of sizeable clouds and that operates well with water tools. The heat hazard IMO is no worse than many other vapes on the market but perhaps is an area for safety/usability innovation.
The Donut Holing is one thing I'd like to see addressed. I have an idea I plan to try where I'm going to take an NO2 "Hat" screen and try to cut a hole in one of the stock Versa screens and make one very large "nipple" screen which will make it easier to pile the herb into the middle where the heat is focused. Alternatively, maybe the interior of the bowl could be shaped in a way (conical?) that does something similar. Just a couple of ideas, they may suck :confused: but I'm going to experiment with the NO2 screen thing since I can do that on my own.
All in all I am enjoying the Infinity and will keep using it. It has probably replaced my UFO as a DD since I was getting tired of the open flame and this also heats up faster, is more temp consistent and can be left powered for on demand use. Will be very interesting to see where this product goes from here, I will continue to update my usage and post additional findings or suggestions.
Boy, that was long, sorry to bore you. Time for another test run
Mister G
Deceptively Old Fart
Yes, they are supposed to be sending me a new body to swap out and a video with instructions.
Mr. Gweilo 420
Dude
We keep hearing about their quality control but they sent that out? Very poor indeed.
CheeseSandwich
Well-Known Member
I'm assuming it was damaged in shipping?
PPN
Volute of Vapor
I don't like the last abv picture, it remenber me the abv i got with my Noble Vapor vp-600(sold), black spots and green weed unevenly vaped...
It seems the heater is in the same category, it produce huge clouds but taste is deteriorate quickly and you need to stir, and stir....
And about the breaks....it was predictable
The Versa thread makes me fall in love with my HA2.2 ha!ha!ha!
It seems the heater is in the same category, it produce huge clouds but taste is deteriorate quickly and you need to stir, and stir....
And about the breaks....it was predictable
The Versa thread makes me fall in love with my HA2.2 ha!ha!ha!
Reflections
Well-Known Member
So Fed ex really throws deliverys over the fence ..sorry to hear about the broken parts
..sorry to hear about the broken parts
Madcap79
Jack of all trades, master of none.
Alright, here is round two with the hookah. Two hits again. No stir. Seem to have fairly even browning. Same setup and technique as before. Shows the vapor a little better in this one. Half a screen of product. Enjoy.
Edit: Before and after product.
Edit: Before and after product.
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Zangano Cruel
IG zan.cru (code) zancru (5% NV checkout discount)
Current lineup of ABV.
I've been letting the unit at 70sV
While loading, up it to 116V
Hit it till no more vapor.
Stir... Boost for extra thick clouds...
All in 116V. No charring. No dark spots. The brownest ABV full extraction
Unit hot as hell. I'm getting better at not tattooing myself
Still trying to find why it don't taste better... I'm starting to inspect airpath again...
Using a 1/4 teaspoon
Last ABV next to spoon can't get better
@Mister G
This is what you do with the EQ cap.
You cap the male of the flower bowl.
If you leave the original SS screen in the middle, you can use it with a HT.
Check my post and video.
Answer from Versa by mail...
"I really like how you funneled the herb down the adapter. We've tried it and it works really well, it might even lead to a change in our adapter design eventually. If the taste is the same, we may move to using more dome screens for herb full time.
I appreciate your firmness in regards to our heat issues and we are working diligently to fix them. I have some handle additions and tweaks being brought to the unit to fix all of our heating issues. I'll send you the new and improved bowl asap once we get them from the glass folks.
I hope to see more tests. Thanks alot."
You're welcome Versa...
Stay vaped...
I've been letting the unit at 70sV
While loading, up it to 116V
Hit it till no more vapor.
Stir... Boost for extra thick clouds...
All in 116V. No charring. No dark spots. The brownest ABV full extraction
Unit hot as hell. I'm getting better at not tattooing myself
Still trying to find why it don't taste better... I'm starting to inspect airpath again...
Using a 1/4 teaspoon
Last ABV next to spoon can't get better
@Mister G
This is what you do with the EQ cap.
You cap the male of the flower bowl.
If you leave the original SS screen in the middle, you can use it with a HT.
Check my post and video.
Answer from Versa by mail...
"I really like how you funneled the herb down the adapter. We've tried it and it works really well, it might even lead to a change in our adapter design eventually. If the taste is the same, we may move to using more dome screens for herb full time.
I appreciate your firmness in regards to our heat issues and we are working diligently to fix them. I have some handle additions and tweaks being brought to the unit to fix all of our heating issues. I'll send you the new and improved bowl asap once we get them from the glass folks.
I hope to see more tests. Thanks alot."
You're welcome Versa...
Stay vaped...
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In fairness to @Mister G, I colour-corrected his picture based on the assumption that the background was white:
I don't know what this looks like on your monitor, however. Comparing the colour of ABV from pictures on FC is a mug's game. None of the ABV pictures posted so far on this page have correct colour. I know because I always take such pictures into Photoshop and correct them so I can see what they're really like. Here's @Madcap79's, properly rotated and corrected:
@Zangano Cruel's are too red. I only corrected one of them:
Thanks for this update. Looks like I have something new I will be testing when my package comes tomorrow. Looks like I will be hard at work testing tomorrow, sure glad I took today off from vaping, lol.
