I guess it depends on your desired appeal. Do the glass purists buy more vapes than those who want bags? Which form of delivery do you prefer yourself and want to service? I like the idea of being able to do bags, but I have two bag blowers here now and I never use that feature. I think I have used a bag once in the past four years.
that may be the best initial usage video yet...great job! Makes me want to know more...
We want a vape used in Clubs in california, oregon, washington, and colorado. We need the bag blowing option just to stay competitive with people who want that feature initially. If we dont offer it, someone else will. That being said the different heaters will tout different features. I could see an FC user having all the heaters just to collect, while a retail customer may choose only ceramic for price performance ratio. The halogen opprotunity is something I feel the vaping community needs to have at a more cost effective price point. It is a 99 cent bulb that we are talking about here. I hope my answer was sufficient.
I keep looking at this, then thinking how much I spent on a cloud and volcano....then back at this. I hope this is as high quality as it looks. I may have to add this to my collection. Will be very interesting to see which vape(S) its gunna replace.
Versa Infinity aims to be the tuner model of vaporizers. IF you look at vapes like cars. The technology is proving to be viable so far. All of our heaters are rheostat compatible and as it looks may have a digital readout of some sort on the control unit. Ill get back to you on what that is exactly.
Yeah, i find bags to be the worst delivery method and i think it is so popular only because of the Volcano which is the first high quality vaporizer made.
It is noisy, difficult to clean, and very inneficient. The only advantage is that it removes user error and it's very simple to use with newbies and people with low dexterity.
But if i had low dexterity i wouldn't use an all-glass unit and i don't think you should buy vaporizer for your friends to use. If they want one, either buy them or learn to use it.
The whip is a nice compromise when you need to pass around and if you have low dexterity IMO. No need to complicate with bags.
I agree with you, however like you said people who are new to vaporizing like to be passed something easy to try. For that reason only the vape will retain with at least 1 heater, the ability to blow bags.
The halogen heater one would be a hell of a bright vaporizer! And a possibly very hot one to the touch?
The heater cartridge will be lined with silver plating, just like inside the aromed. Alot of the heat in a light bulb is radiated where the light is focused. I tend to look at it like a flashlight so far. It has heat in the front and is cooler to the rear. All I know is that the vape is 7.5 inches long. Only the top 3 inches feel hot. Its also meant to be hands free with the use of glass joints. I hope that helps.
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Salutations Leiana,
Oh thanks, excellent! I like it too!!
It's already quite nice to have this many options, but since halogen heating is pretty clean as it is why not just keep the titanium nail and dump the band heater instead? After all, if there had been a problem with the molybdenum pins or else then i guess we should have read about it in the Aromed thread a very long time ago...
So here's what i suggest as a substitute, for both of your present band/halogen heater scenarios:
Sorry about that crude rendering...
Briefly put lets take electric hardware out of your airpath(s) by containing it with a glass tube sealed at the colder/remote end using silicone: this air won't mix for all practical purposes, which would seem like a good enough solution (at least for me anyway).
Indeed, go for it!! Not to mention i feel drained after my little MSPaint session...
No such trade-offs please!! I believe bags will add value to your concept as i've been initiated to vaporism through bags myself, essentially speaking, so i wish you'll do your best to save it.
Woah I'm proud of you. I will pass on this message and see if we can make sense of what you are presenting here. Like I said we want to entertain ideas to see if they can be used with our current interchange model. On the new glass body, the inner joint is 4.5 inches long with an 18mm joint st the top. This is where we secure the joint of the heater cartridge with a clip.
With a tool you will be able to interchange the heater yourself within 60 seconds, while its cold.
Each heater as of now will have a quick disconnect that will need to be fed through the hole to the outside of the glass body.
Your MSPaint skills are appreciated!
Really liking the idea of getting feedback from the community.
Have you looked into etched foil heaters? They look like they have great potential to be used in vapes. If I'm not mistaken, a member here just used one to repair his broken VXC with great results.
"the flat surface of foil heaters provide more uniform heating, thanks to significantly more surface area devoted to heat transfer."
"Another important feature of foil heaters is that they can be extremely thin. For example, materials such as polyimide (DuPont’s Kapton) can be used to make heaters as thin as 0.005 in., with the foil heating element as thin as 0.0005 in. Being thin lets foil heaters fit in tight spaces, and their flexibility lets them wrap around tight corners and complex shapes.
Foil heaters also let designers add devices to the heaters such as thermistors, fuses, and other electrical components. They can be soldered directly to the heater using traditional soldering methods. The result can be a heater with built-in control logic."
It appears the new breed of heavy hitting Vaporizers (VXC + Sublimator) are using thermal mass to give their vaporizer a strong punch. With etched foil, the potential to exceed what a ceramic heater could do is there IMO.
Now that is some useful information! You may have just solved world hunger with this one!
Bags don't seem to be widely used on FC, I've never owned a bag and feel no need to. But I love the idea of having the bag option to be an accessory. For someone like me bags just raise the price and create utility that I don't need.
Yea thats why the blower is an accessory. We feel like if people are willing to pay 500+ for a bag blower, they may find interest in paying alot less for an add-on blower. At this point we are looking at including low cost pumps like herbalaire does, until our proprietary system is perfected.
Looks interesting. I also vote for 5mm thickness.
Got it.
5mm glass is very sturdy, higher quality feeling than thinner glass, I agree. I really don't like and won't use any bag systems, if it had one I wouldn't care, but if you can get better performance w/o it, I'd choose the tradeoff of that one piece of less flexibility in usage modes.
Lastly, have to say I really like the proposed price point, I think i saw about $250?
Yes 250 is the price point for 1 heating element & its adapters, screens, bowls & whip. Bag blowing is either extra accessory or a package of its own which includes the standard ceramic package but everything for blowing bags as well.
Great usage video! This looks really interesting.
+1 for no bag blowing
+1 for keeping titanium and dumping band heater
Thanks for sharing and asking for opinions of FC.
I have your votes.
Thank you everyone! You just gave us alot to think about. Our manufacturing is all made either in house or within California so our implementation time for your innovations is very quick. We work directly with glass blowers and we are visiting them this morning with out new plans. Our glass blower also does silver coating for the halogen model.
What this means for your beta units is that if you request an Infinity, we can give you an invoice to pay & you can receive your unit within 1-2 weeks. As of now, we need about 1 to 2 weeks to finish our R&D on the halogen heater IF you want that heater.
