Discontinued Vaporfection viVape

[Vapinghole]

wish i had the same experience as you vapinghole, I've got gear dripping in crystal, perfectly cured by myself, but its such a chore to get a draw from it, i have the aqua vape attached for getting some moisture going on the toke, have to crank it up-to 410f to get anything going.....eventually gave up with it and ordered heat wand kit. the simplicity the way it works is great for a quick hit, but not suitable when your using all your energy sucking like a hoover to get it going decent.

Sorry you're having trouble, white russian (though damn, your avitar is awfully nice). I also don't like how restrictive my Aqua Vape is relative to my bong/bubbler--the airhole seems too small, as if I'm trying to suck through a cocktail straw. I asked Vaporfection about that, and they told me it was by design--I'm wondering if my AV's hole was simply blown too small. See my videos in this thread and try the setup I use with the bong (or go dry if you don't have a bong). If you don't have an adapter for the whip to go into your bong, you can just stick the whip in there (it should fit). That's what I did before getting a glass adapter.

Also, and this is VERY important--keep your screen very clean--I clean mine once per day. Ditch the Aqua Vape and try it. You should be rolling. If not, you may have a faulty unit? This vape rocks, so I highly encourage you to keep trying, minus the Aqua Vape.

PM me if you still have trouble, and I'll do my best to help you get the most out of your vV.

 

[white russian]

Sorry you're having trouble, white russian (though damn, your avitar is awfully nice). I also don't like how restrictive my Aqua Vape is relative to my bong/bubbler--the airhole seems too small, as if I'm trying to suck through a cocktail straw. I asked Vaporfection about that, and they told me it was by design--I'm wondering if my AV's hole was simply blown too small. See my videos in this thread and try the setup I use with the bong (or go dry if you don't have a bong). If you don't have an adapter for the whip to go into your bong, you can just stick the whip in there (it should fit). That's what I did before getting a glass adapter.

Also, and this is VERY important--keep your screen very clean--I clean mine once per day. Ditch the Aqua Vape and try it. You should be rolling. If not, you may have a faulty unit? This vape rocks, so I highly encourage you to keep trying, minus the Aqua Vape.

PM me if you still have trouble, and I'll do my best to help you get the most out of your vV.

vapinghole that sounds just perfect what you just said, using it with the aqua vape i think i'd have more luck trying to suck a golf ball through a garden hose, i'm fairly new to vaping so haven't had the chance to purchase glass etc but all that is about to change soon, this forum is turning me into a glass addict, so when i do get my glass piece ill be sure to follow your instructions to the letter, thanks for taking the time out to give me assistance

 

[Vapinghole]

Anytime, whitey. Please let me know how it goes. I'm fairly new to vaporizing too, but i've gone at it pretty hard out of the gate and can share my experiences.

Cheers, my friend!

 

[stonedwarman]

What's the best way to get resin out of the herb chamber in the vivape? I want to collect it to use later. Oh and @ Vapinghole your video motivated me try the vivape with 3 of my friends in whip mode. Out of all my friends I am the only one with a vaporizer fetish, but they were all very impressed with it's performance. I have been missing out.....I'm going to be vaping with the vivape in whip mode more regularly.

 

[white russian]

my unit wil not heat up now, the fan just blows cool air (sigh) l think this goes someway to explaining how I've battled to get decent vapor from the start, looks to have been faulty and the inevitability it was going to die eventually.

 

[Dab Rite]

my unit wil not heat up now, the fan just blows cool air (sigh) l think this goes someway to explaining how I've battled to get decent vapor from the start, looks to have been faulty and the inevitability it was going to die eventually.

Hi white russian, we're sorry to hear your unit isn't heating up. Let's bring this over to a PM and we can get your contact information to send you a new unit. Thanks

 

[white russian]

Hi white russian, we're sorry to hear your unit isn't heating up. Let's bring this over to a PM and we can get your contact information to send you a new unit. Thanks

no problem, thanks for getting in touch.

 

[Vapinghole]

What's the best way to get resin out of the herb chamber in the vivape? I want to collect it to use later. Oh and @ Vapinghole your video motivated me try the vivape with 3 of my friends in whip mode. Out of all my friends I am the only one with a vaporizer fetish, but they were all very impressed with it's performance. I have been missing out.....I'm going to be vaping with the vivape in whip mode more regularly.

Awesome! I'm happy you like the whip and are getting more out of your viVape. My sessions have only improved lately as I continue to hone my skills and preferences. as for collecting the resin (or whatever it's called), there are probably lots of ways, but I know many folks soak the glass iRn iso and pour the dirty alcohol through a filter of some sort, leaving the good stuff, which you can dry out. There are lots of threads in this forum offering great tips for 'reclaiming.' the search function should help you get results. I don't reclaim my stuff since I'm anal and clean my herb chamber regularly.

my unit wil not heat up now, the fan just blows cool air (sigh) l think this goes someway to explaining how I've battled to get decent vapor from the start, looks to have been faulty and the inevitability it was going to die eventually.

Damn, sorry to know this. I'm sure Vaporfection will take good care of you. Let us know how it goes.

Cheers!!

 

[poonman]

Hey people ,
been away from FC for about 6 months on and off .
you know how it is , sometimes you just don't feel like typing .

But RE: Vivape
you have got to be kidding me , there were only 3 vids on you-tube .
and 2 of them were commercials or vendor related .
The 3rd vid , she was a newbie for sure .
Bless her heart , she shoved the " new bowl " in and started inhaling immediately without no
warm-up/cooking time . I didn't see any big clouds .

There isn't one FC member that can upload an actual vid of testimony/review for this unit ???
I'm afraid to look at the portable Mi-vape thread for vids !

Anyhoo ,
I'm still enjoying my NO2 but always on a lookout for something new .
Happy Vaping All

 

[Vapinghole]

^^^ hey there poonman!

Check out the previous two pages on this thread. I've uploaded a couple of vids. I've used the shit out of this viVape for almost 4 months. It's very solid, gives me huge clouds, and the tastiest vapor of any vape I've tried, and I've tried quite a few.

 

[poonman]

A review by and Engineer

Recommendation: 2 out of 5.

I would like to answer the calling for genuine feedback on the viVape. I've never before written a posting but am compelled to now.. First, the box it came in is nice, and I'm a big fan of technology so I am happy to see vaporizers moving in that direction. The viVape went for an Apple inspired look and has a 2.25" (diagonal) touch-screen; and I give the creators a lot of credit for recognizing the need for a better looking device. However, because I expected a lot from a company that asserts "This changes Everything" but found 1) a pretty box wrapped around the same 'ol technology, and 2) new problems not found in other vaporizers, I am dismally disappointed (oh, and the refund policy is that there isn't one).

PROS
* Better looking than anything else I've seen.
1 Fairly quiet, although the internal blower is always running so when it should be silent there is still a buzzing.
2 Touch screen gives a nice impression, it's like moving to a Blueray player instead of a VCR
3 Glass accessories are durable and look relatively nice
4 The bag has a nice weight and size, and the end clip is novel

CONS
1 The "Actual Temperature" is a false reading (like all the other vapes especially the Arizer), but this one goes way overboard. I had it set for 400F, then went to the Change Temp screen and set it to 90F, and it told me that the Actual Temperature was then immediately at 90F! I don't think so - it cannot be instantly cooled from 400F to an Arizona summer's night. In reverse, I then went from 90F to 400F and again the temperature change was instant... but I could feel the air exiting from the nozzle still heating so I know it was lying. Either the creators think consumers are stupid or they released a product with a really simple software bug.
2 The blower is always running, which means that when I put down the whip between inhalations my herb is still being vaporized and therefore wasted. Even when the device is turned off the fan continues to run to cool it, all the while pushing hot air and vaporizing (wasting!) my unused herb. In the manual it is suggested to remove the bowl between breaths... not user friendly.
3 The herb bowl plugs in horizontally, meaning that the herb falls to the bottom of the bowl. Um.. planet earth has gravity at 9.8m/s^2.. duh. This means that hot air flows over instead of through the herb and therefore heats just the top of the herb and thus does not evenly vaporize. To compensate for this the bowl was made small so the herb packs in, forcing the air through the herb as it should be. Therefore only a little bit of herb can go into the bowl.
4 With about 1/4 Lipton teabag worth of herb in the bowl, there was too much blockage for the little internal fan to efficiently fill up the bag. It took FOUR minutes to fill a single bag.
5 The SIZE... it is way bigger than illustrated in the online pictures. Perhaps at the angle shown at vaporfection.com it has a slender waistband, but in actuality it is thick and bulky.. a lot bigger than illustrated.
6 I have a handful of other subtle, less important dislikes that are more about my personal preference so I won't list them.

KEY FINDINGS
From a first impression Aesthetics standpoint the viVape comes in first place above all other vaporizers.
From a Performance standpoint the viVape is bad - the temperature readout is totally erroneous; it continuously vaporizes my herb whether I want it to or not; and takes a long time to fill a bag.

Now that is what I call a review .
Nice work Engineer .
They've recently sent me a 20% promo discount if I order now .
I really wanted to get the portable unit Mi-vape .
But I'm really having 2nd thoughts now .
I realize most 1st generation/versions of anything , needs some kinks to be worked out .
But the Cons you've listed are too much .

Thanx bro .

 

[poonman]

Now that is what I call a review .
Nice work Engineer .
They've recently sent me a 20% promo discount if I order now .
I really wanted to get the portable unit Mi-vape .
But I'm really having 2nd thoughts now .
I realize most 1st generation/versions of anything , needs some kinks to be worked out .
But the Cons you've listed are too much .

Thanx bro .

Hey Vapinghole ,
Nice vids you posted .
You seemed to have gotten it right .
Those were some fine looking clouds you exhaled
I don't know if you are familiar with the volcano .
The cano uses a lot to fill up the cooking chamber .
I find .25 to .5 gram minimum per bowl had to be used each time . ( filling up aprox. 5 bags )

How much would you say you use per bowl ?
And what is it that you clean regularly ?
I also like a clean regularly ( cooking chamber on NO2 ), otherwise I get what I call the
" Resin coughs " .

Happy Vaping

 

[V-RodVapors4U]

I'm sorry I don't agree with Mr Engineers assessment, and I'm certainly no engineer.
The vV temperature hang up has no effect on performance at all that I can tell. So what if light doesn't goes out when ya change the temp. It still blows the clouds very well. If temp was totally erroneous then it wouldnt necessarilly vaporize correctly. The temp may not be perfect, as i susupect no vaporizer is perfect in that respect, but it doesnt burn it too quickly or not enough. The temp does adjust. That kinda blew Mr Engineers credibility for me, just saying..
Wasting herb would be a no go for me as well. When i was combusting herb continues to burn, with blower running its no big deal to pull the chamber out, and set aside until the next hit. Which can be a minute or two for me between hits.
The heat chamber Position doesn't affect myself or performance.. When I suck it up into the chamber, most of the herb stays put, that which doesn't gets pulled up tight after the first hit or two. I also rotate the bowl occasionally. This problem Mr engineer has is likely to happen after stirring when it doesn't stick together like it does after the first hit. The chamber holds plenty of herb from a small hit to a rather large I've packed to much when will it end hit. It's a vaporizer not a 3 ft bong.
I don't really use the bag, except for exhaling my huge clouds into for second hand reclaim. works great on stretching the budget.
I guess an all glass path wasn't progress for Mr engineer. Well I for one im glad it wasn't over engineered.
Sure for the first go around it could use some improvements, but this is a 4/5 stars. It's not perfect, but some of these things will be improved upon in the revisions. Mr Engineers bad on the product doesn't really hold up. The temp, big deal. The it uses all my herb up is a bit over the top. Then it takes too long to fill the bag. There is a heat up time after the unit reaches the set temp, and they may be part of the bag fill for Mr Engineer. I've not really used the bag for this purpose, but with second hand reclaim smoke it works great. Overall I expected more from an engineer. Like where does the debis end up that gets through the bottom screen? Temp variances between machines? Why there has to be a blower, that he dislikes so much? How they could incorporate an auto stirrer into the heat chamber. Maybe activated by the heat or the blower itself. Perhaps explain, and help the manufacturer understand the physics of flexible glass technology, and help em develope to use as a whip for a truly all glass path. Hmmmmmmm

 

[poonman]

I'm sorry I don't agree with Mr Engineers assessment, and I'm certainly no engineer.
The vV temperature hang up has no effect on performance at all that I can tell. So what if light doesn't goes out when ya change the temp. It still blows the clouds very well. If temp was totally erroneous then it wouldnt necessarilly vaporize correctly. The temp may not be perfect, as i susupect no vaporizer is perfect in that respect, but it doesnt burn it too quickly or not enough. The temp does adjust. That kinda blew Mr Engineers credibility for me, just saying..
Wasting herb would be a no go for me as well. When i was combusting herb continues to burn, with blower running its no big deal to pull the chamber out, and set aside until the next hit. Which can be a minute or two for me between hits.
The heat chamber Position doesn't affect myself or performance.. When I suck it up into the chamber, most of the herb stays put, that which doesn't gets pulled up tight after the first hit or two. I also rotate the bowl occasionally. This problem Mr engineer has is likely to happen after stirring when it doesn't stick together like it does after the first hit. The chamber holds plenty of herb from a small hit to a rather large I've packed to much when will it end hit. It's a vaporizer not a 3 ft bong.
I don't really use the bag, except for exhaling my huge clouds into for second hand reclaim. works great on stretching the budget.
I guess an all glass path wasn't progress for Mr engineer. Well I for one im glad it wasn't over engineered.
Sure for the first go around it could use some improvements, but this is a 4/5 stars. It's not perfect, but some of these things will be improved upon in the revisions. Mr Engineers bad on the product doesn't really hold up. The temp, big deal. The it uses all my herb up is a bit over the top. Then it takes too long to fill the bag. There is a heat up time after the unit reaches the set temp, and they may be part of the bag fill for Mr Engineer. I've not really used the bag for this purpose, but with second hand reclaim smoke it works great. Overall I expected more from an engineer. Like where does the debis end up that gets through the bottom screen? Temp variances between machines? Why there has to be a blower, that he dislikes so much? How they could incorporate an auto stirrer into the heat chamber. Maybe activated by the heat or the blower itself. Perhaps explain, and help the manufacturer understand the physics of flexible glass technology, and help em develope to use as a whip for a truly all glass path. Hmmmmmmm

Hey V-Rod ,
I like your explanations of your side too .
That's what I like about FC .
Getting both sides before you spend your $$$ .

I was commenting on the style of the review itself .
Bullet point forms and regarding the important factors that makes a good vaporizor . iho

The glass air path is what interested me first and foremost .
I've only tasted vaporizors with metallic cooking chambers . cano , NO2 , MFLB
And I keep hearing that there is a difference between them regarding the taste .

About the blower ,
Can you just hold your thumb over the opening until you take your next hit ?
Or cap it with something ?
Do you just use the unit itself or do you need a bubbler or bong to REALLY make it work ?
And what other vapes have you owned or used that you've liked ?

Happy Vaping All

 

[CentiZen]

No, the whole reason the blower is always on is so the vaporfection Novus under that pretty box dosen't melt itself into a hot mess... the design of this vaporizer makes me want to cry.

 

[Vapinghole]

No, the whole reason the blower is always on is so the vaporfection Novus under that pretty box dosen't melt itself into a hot mess... the design of this vaporizer makes me want to cry.

Yes, the blower stays on the whole time. It's quiet and doesn't bother me one single bit. I don't care why the blower is always on--especially given the way I use my vV (whip mode only--no bags). If it's to keep the vape cool, so be it! CentiZen - if you haven't tried it, don't knock it. I realize you may not be keen on the design, but it's no reason to cry and the results more than compensate for the always-on blower. Heck, if you're ever in the Pacific NW let me know and I'll have you over for a session.

Again, I've used the SHIT out of this vape--3-5 times daily for almost 4 months, and the vapor is tastier than any vapor I've had from the many vapes I've tried and own. Is it perfect? No. But it's the best in its class, IMO. Most of the negative comments are from those who've never tried the viVape and are turned off for one reason or another. Their loss, IMO.

Hey V-Rod ,
I like your explanations of your side too .
That's what I like about FC .
Getting both sides before you spend your $$$ .

I was commenting on the style of the review itself .
Bullet point forms and regarding the important factors that makes a good vaporizor . iho

The glass air path is what interested me first and foremost .
I've only tasted vaporizors with metallic cooking chambers . cano , NO2 , MFLB
And I keep hearing that there is a difference between them regarding the taste .

About the blower ,
Can you just hold your thumb over the opening until you take your next hit ?
Or cap it with something ?
Do you just use the unit itself or do you need a bubbler or bong to REALLY make it work ?
And what other vapes have you owned or used that you've liked ?

Happy Vaping All

I'll chime in, poonman, I hope you don't mind. First off, Happy Vaping to you too! I also benefitted from reviewing the hell out of this forum before dropping big $$ on my vapes. For my high-priced home vape, it came down to the EQ, the Volcano, or the viVape. I read enough early on to be swayed away from a bag-only unit, so that ruled out the Volcano. I really wanted as much glass as possible, so I chose the vV.

I've tried the SSV, the DaBuddah, Volcano, other cheap box vapes, the Vriptech Heatwand, and the vapes I own (listed in my signature), all of which I dig. There is DEFINITELY a difference with the viVape's all-glass delivery (save for the whip tubing). There isn't a comparison in my view and my guess is the only other vape that will deliver similar if not better taste is the Vapexhale Cloud.

You can use the viVape with or without a bubbler. I prefer to use water whenever possible, but I also use the whip straight-up if I need a quick vape. Another big plus is the fast heat-up time. Two minutes to desired temp, no joke. The glass outside the blower gets hot, so DO NOT touch it! Simply remove the whip when you're finished with your hit. Watch my videos to see how it's done with a bong/bubbler. PM me if you want specifics--I'm a viVape fan (not a blind fan-boy, mind you, an objective fan).

I dig Engineer's thorough review and read it fully before buying the vV, but keep in mind it was his first impressions and we haven't heard from him since his last Feb post. He's either happy with his viVape, not using it anymore, or too stoned to follow up with additional comments if he in fact has been using it a lot since.

Cheers to you all, and thanks V-Rod, for your comments too! I hope you had a pleasant Memorial Day Holiday.

 

[V-RodVapors4U]

Yo Bro's! What he said above I agree. I am happy with the purchase. It does a great job for me personally.
Centizen is mad Vaporfection probably won't take his cash, or money order. Jk Dude.
Ive had the whispr, mflb, Da Vinci, vV,
Used the large aquavape, but I broke it. I have the small AV on the way.

Remember those who gave their life or limbs for the liberties we enjoy in the USA.

 

[FLskwat]

I think Mr Engineer's review is pretty accurate. You can go at the beginning of this thread and see my first opinions on this vape when we tested it at the High Times cup in Dam last November. This is a pimped novus with a tactile screen and it does work but it consumes ALMOST 700 WATTS (THAT IS TOTAL NON SENSE), is always cooking my weed or heating my living room (if you take the wand out)...but it does work...
Anyhow I'm again not sure they have nailed it (product/lifetime/price/real market improvements).
Other then that I am a big FAN boy of the AV, and always have been!

 

[CentiZen]

Well consider that the 700 watt draw IS only peak draw; but yes it is a crazy amount of power to be drawing.

CentiZen - if you haven't tried it, don't knock it. I realize you may not be keen on the design, but it's no reason to cry and the results more than compensate for the always-on blower. Heck, if you're ever in the Pacific NW let me know and I'll have you over for a session

I have tried it. In fact I had a unit at my house for about week to demo because the local headshop owner wanted my opinion on it (I serve as a vaporizer consultant to them). I'm glad you are enjoying your unit but I stand by what I said, that this vaporizer makes me want to cry for numerous problematic design choices, first and foremost with me being the fact that there is next to no ventilation or heat dispersion simply because of the fancy looking case they wanted to put around it lacked any vent holes (because those aren't pretty). I found not being able to leave the whip in frustrating and was disappointed in the quality of the temperature indication which seems to be completely wrong. The reason I'm crying is because I wanted to love this vape, it looks amazing and could have been so much better, but I feel that they did some serious sacrificing just for the sake of making it look pretty.

Not to mention it would trip my breakers whenever I ran it off the same power source as my gaming computer.

I appreciate your offer though I am in Canada.

 

[V-RodVapors4U]

Ok, so what if it does consume 700 watts, and that's non continuous I believe? What diff does that make to me? A couple bucks in juice? Ah, I used an extra tree in my lifetime? Ahhh some kid in a Madrassa in Saudi doesn't get to watch a commie cartoon on his black and white. Ahhh, I start stealing juice from my neighbor to power my system? What is up with that melt my system crap? Always cooking my weed? Jeez, how much chit do ya pack in that thing Dude? Holy moly the only thing I've tripped is myself after a session. I stand by rhe fact that some of us are fine if it works as advertised. I think it does. I just can't believe everyone doesn't agree with me. Hehe. Look the temp thingy doesn't have to be exact if it is off at all. I know it heats up or down when I mess with temp thingy. So why does it need to be exact exactly? Just asking.

 

[CentiZen]

Ok, so what if it does consume 700 watts, and that's non continuous I believe? What diff does that make to me? A couple bucks in juice? Ah, I used an extra tree in my lifetime? Ahhh some kid in a Madrassa in Saudi doesn't get to watch a commie cartoon on his black and white. Ahhh, I start stealing juice from my neighbor to power my system? What is up with that melt my system crap? Always cooking my weed? Jeez, how much chit do ya pack in that thing Dude? Holy moly the only thing I've tripped is myself after a session. I stand by rhe fact that some of us are fine if it works as advertised. I think it does. I just can't believe everyone doesn't agree with me. Hehe. Look the temp thingy doesn't have to be exact if it is off at all. I know it heats up or down when I mess with temp thingy. So why does it need to be exact exactly? Just asking.

I'm not quite sure why you think I've got it out for vaporfection. God damn it I wanted to love this vape. I'm glad your enjoying your unit but I respectfully disagree with you and some of the comments you made in that post were just ridiculous. If you think what I'm saying is wrong, just ignore me, no need for the sardonicism.

So power issues, while it may seem like there is no issue and yes, it is a peak wattage, there is simply no reason to run that much power through the vaporizer in an attempt to heat it up. All it will do is shorten the life of the capacitors, heating element and other pieces of circuitry in it. It's simply wonderful you live in an area with a quality power grid and can afford the luxury of running your electronics as much as you wish but we don't all live there, some of us live in apartments or houses where the wiring can't handle excessive load. In that case, 700 watt's is a lot of power, akin to running a microwave and that is completely unnecessary.

As for melting your system... really? I need to spell this out? You've got a vaporizer, which is designed to get hot. It's in a box, completely closed off from circulating air to stop it from getting to hot. Add some electricity and some time (and plug up the fan) and you've got the vaporizer equivalent to the Xbox 360 Red Ring of Death coming to you. That's what I meant by that, and is why the fan will never shut off so it can constantly circle cold air in. I didn't like this because it forces you into spending a chunk of time letting it cool off before you can pack it up, and if theres a power outtage or your fan craps out, your vaporizer is not going to be able to vent itself out and it will be damaged.

Finally, there are needs for very specific temperatures. Those of us who use cannabis for certain medical conditions like constant nausea need to be able to hit exact temperatures to ensure we get the cannabinoids we want and leave the ones which will tire us out during the day in the ABV.

So I'm glad you love your unit; I didn't. The design tradeoffs and power consumption and shoddy temp control just killed it for me. If you don't agree with me, well... you don't have to. Go vape another bag and do what you will.

 

[poonman]

Hey people ,
Thank you for all your responses , both pros and cons .
Very informative and very passionate on your parts .

I don't have to purchase tomorrow or any time soon .
So I will continue to monitor this thread and do more research .

I too am interested about the VX cloud , but I heard there may be some kinks to be worked out
also with their first version .

For those that didn't enjoy the Vv ,
Just think of all the $$$ you helped save for us .
And Instant Karma will get you back

And for those that are happy with their Vv ,

Vape On

 

[V-RodVapors4U]

Ok most of that makes sense, but so far in the real,world the only issue I'm really with ya on is the quality of the power structure worldwide. I,would think those folks would be aware. Look no need to get pissy, nothing mean was coming your wAy. I just disagree. I can ignore or post what the hell I want. I chose to choose. Just saying, anyone whose offended can choose not too post as well. Is there a vape that measures exact temps? How do you know what temps the vV is reading is accurate or not? I may not be as exp as some of you guys on the vape scene, however exact temp by the degree to burn certain components but not another a few degrees away seems ridiculous. I Can understand higher temps, etc, but an exact temp? Come on, how many folks buy a vape hoping it does exact temp you want. I understand there is diff components peoplE do,or don't want vaporizing in there vape, but exact? What do they use now for exact temps for vaping, they don't. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Centzen and you other guys understand the circuitry, not me. I understand real world use in the field. I've not seen nor heard any meltdowns. Maybe it will come, maybe it won't. I still think it's a good product.

 

[V-RodVapors4U]

I'm happy to report I've yet to have a thermo nuclear meltdown of my unit yet. But there's always tonight. Oh happy days my friends.

 

[Hippie Dickie]

with 700 watts available i imagine it changes temperature instantaneously (almost) -- even a 50°F to 100°F change. i throttle my vape to keep it at 15°F per second but i think it can do at least twice that, and mine is running at only 70 watts (max).