Vaporbrothers VB2

biojuggernaut

biojuggernaut

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That wooden box back in the thread; can someone specify is that the 2nd generation? Is so when is VB planning any upgrades, i purchased my cloud months before the release of the evo and was moderately disappointed.. Vito is this thing "prettier" then a bong, I want to downsize to way less shiet to appease my hosts and landlord, is it subtle? How esoteric or foreign does it feel to pull a dab with that short red stem in YouTube video (addn't what stem is that)?

Thanks guys!!
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Vitolo

Vitolo

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You have seen the pictures...
you tell me ...
Is it prettier than a bong?
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(I would say so!)
 
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biojuggernaut said:
That wooden box back in the thread; can someone specify is that the 2nd generation? Is so when is VB planning any upgrades, i purchased my cloud months before the release of the evo and was moderately disappointed..

Thanks guys!!
Cheers
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@biojuggernaut Without going back in the thread, I have a feeling it's the picture I posted at some point of the 2nd generation VB2 that was only a beta unit and currently sitting in our office. So this is confirmation that it is the 2nd gen.

1st generation was the VB1 box with a hole drill into the side. You have to lay the box on it's side and drop the solids into the hole onto the element. This was well before concentrates became the norm and was more for solids. Unfortunately I don't have a photo of that unit but maybe VB does.

As for upgrades, I don't think anything major is in the works. And I'm pretty sure anything minor, VB would be willing to upgrade for the first adapters.

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I only this morning emailed vapor brothers about adjusting my temperature higher, I think I have almost perfected the art of procrastinating, non the less the VB2 has kept me busy and the torch in the cabinit for the last few weeks. It will be nice to get the vb2 to spec temps, my warm up times from cold to first dab are 20 min ATM and about an hour until the unit is hot enough for multiple people to hit it non stop, I imagine this will be much quicker if the unit can be adjusted hotter. When fully preheated I have not used a device that can deliver endless monster rips with consistent great flavor like the VB2 does!

I am on the fence with the 15min auto shutoff, I understand its value but it gets annoying when I am out of sync and constantly walk up to a cold vb2, this is the only time I almost reached for the nail and torch. Has anyone come up with a solution to the shutoff? I don't mean disabling it, at least on a public forum, rather a smart plug and app that could cycle the power off and back on every 15min?
 
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@vaporbrothers who walked me through tuning my VB2 a big Thank You! I am already at a higher temp in 8min then the unit has ever been, lol.

Fine tuning your VB2 to the perfect temps is Easy peasy!

Edit: what a difference! Made some adjustments, need to do some more testing with the thermocouple with 1 hr plus on times to make sure I am not pushing it to hard but I am already experiencing a quicker heat up to 750F then I have ever seen and running 930f after an hour of on time.
 
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biojuggernaut said:
What did he recommended to get more quick heat up times? What do you consider to be hard on the unit?
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I needed to turn my H temp up to have a quicker warm up time. Turning the unit to high puts strain on the heaters, turning the unit to high may shorten the life span of the heaters.
 
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biojuggernaut

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So what's your current "technique" that you're using to keep the unit consistently warmed up as well as your initial heat up of the unit?? First 7 minutes on full blast then 7 at moderate heat? I saw others in the forum using a laser thermo to get Ti nail temperatures to ~700°F; however I have never had good luck using my hand unit.

I am just trying to prepare for when I get the unit hopefully soon.
 
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sneekierolyk

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SO after using this unit (VB2) for a while and not being able to add photos i thought time for a short written review.
The VB2 definitely is a great device for dabbing as everyone has been saying. Nothing really bad to say about how the VB2 hits once warmed up. I was also able to use the parts supplied, to use all my glass pieces and it looks classy not ghetto rigged, which was cool (hope i can get pictures up) Im dumb...To get to a nice consistent temperature though to dab nice size dabs is after 3 or 4 heat cycles on high. So about 30 to 60 minutes. Same problem @GR was having?
Question i have now is by heating the unit up every time with 3 or more heat cycles on high is it not good for the device? And if so do i have to tweak the temperature?
 
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sneekierolyk said:
To get to a nice consistent temperature though to dab nice size dabs is after 3 or 4 heat cycles on high. So about 30 to 60 minutes. Same problem @GR was having?
Question i have now is by heating the unit up every time with 3 or more heat cycles on high is it not good for the device? And if so do i have to tweak the temperature?
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I've been on the fence on purchasing the VB2 for a couple of months now. If what you and GR are saying is true about ridculous heat up times for maximum performance; that's a deal breaker for me. Perhaps VaporBrothers or vapor warehouse can chime in on this. The unit sounds incredible except for the heat up time and unknown temperatures.
 
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I highly suggest calling Vapor Brothers for direct info on the two heaters and adjusting the L M H settings. There are some warnings about making the adjustments such as running it to hot can burn up the heaters faster and that the heat setting screws could be turned past their max set point and that can kill the connection. My confidence to move forward with being told I have a two year warranty so don't worry, lol. Great folks, worth the phone call. There was some talk if I need to send my unit in for repair that the auto shut off could be tweaked.

I also use a high temp wire probe and thermocoupler to read the temperatures of the ceramic disk. I have noticed that it helps to move the probe around to different areas of the disk, there are hot and cool spots as the heaters cycle I believe.

I am still testing out my new temp settings. I was running last night at 950-970f last night for many hours which was a too hot IMO but I ended up turning it down to far so now I am adjusting slowly back up as the unit gets fully preheated. This turning it down last night screwed up my cold start up tests today, oh well I will have to try again tomorrow.

Another adjustment I played with was turning the low setting a hotter temp since it has no auto shut off but at least in this setting it should cut down on preheat times.
 
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Vitolo

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I reach maximum vape temps in 2-3 minutes... That is about 1000º
The timer shuts unit, by the time I am done.
I do not know what folks are talking about as far as recycling and turning the unit back on repeatedly, unless you are serving a house full of guests.
Heatup time is the same for low or high "tweaking".
A user can not outsmart the device to perform differently than it performs.
The only "trick" that works is ...
...if not done getting medicated, and timer shuts off... just turn it back on.
The unit does not infinitely keep getting hotter the longer it is on.
I can recycle my unit back on 10 times in a row... it is still about 1000º
The only thing that changes after the 10 recycles is the units body eventually gets too hot too handle.
 
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Vitolo said:
I reach maximum vape temps in 2-3 minutes... That is about 1000º
The timer shuts unit, by the time I am done.
I do not know what folks are talking about as far as recycling and turning the unit back on repeatedly, unless you are serving a house full of guests.
Heatup time is the same for low or high "tweaking".
A user can not outsmart the device to perform differently than it performs.
The only "trick" that works is ...
...if not done getting medicated, and timer shuts off... just turn it back on.
The unit does not infinitely keep getting hotter the longer it is on.
I can recycle my unit back on 10 times in a row... it is still about 1000º
The only thing that changes after the 10 recycles is the units body eventually gets too hot too handle.
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Mine certainly doesn't warm that quick! I get to 600f in about 5min then it is a long wait until I get over 750f. For me to see 850f plus the body is to hot to touch. So I have some more work to do to get mine tuned like yours!

Edit: Looks like I over did it and damaged something, I can't get my unit over 650f now.
 
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Vitolo

Vitolo

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I tweaked my unit up one time when it was new (they instructed me which "trimpot" to turn.)
When I want to vape, I turn unit on, and set my Cell phone for 4 minutes beep.
When the timer goes off, my unit has stopped blinking and I am set to go.
If I do one session/cycle, the unit is not too hot to handle, though the top might be plenty hot!
When I have recycled it to keep vaping, after the second time, the body does get hot... and I do not handle it other than by the silicone "glove".
 
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t-dub

t-dub

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It appears one of the two heaters in mine has given up so I'm sending mine back tomorrow. It just kept taking longer to heat and getting colder until it became unusable. :cry:
 
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t-dub said:
It appears one of the two heaters in mine has given up so I'm sending mine back tomorrow. It just kept taking longer to heat and getting colder until it became unusable. :cry:
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Race ya, lol. Thinking same thing for me except I helped it along with my heater adjustments I guess.

Going to miss the beast while it is gone.
 
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Broke out my Cera yesterday to get through and eventually the nail and torch will come back out.
 
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We're on it! Any unit that comes back to us for repair gets studied. I think the thing that causes units to run significantly cooler is that one of the ceramic heaters is going out. There are 2 heaters running half power each. It's really hard to put ceramic through this- you can tell from the Hive Ceramic experience- It's part of why it took a long time to come out with the VB2. More robust heaters in the future = yes, and upgrade so far has been a free component of repair.

Vitolo's unit might be cranked up more than normal so most VB2s should be a bit tamer. The typical VB2 is vaping lightly within 3 minutes, giving big hits by 6, and up to full temperature in perhaps 10. I can help anybody turn theirs up.. (basically you use a small screwdriver to rotate the "M" or "H" setting on the bottom clockwise by 1/8 turn at a time, but really careful not to turn it too far and burn out the unit, or break the trimpot. It's better to do this with a thermocouple and/or killawatt tester... If all this sounds like much please contact support or direct message me. Talking to us makes us feel lot better that it will happen successfully)

As a final word for now... VB2 is not for everybody (yet)- It costs a lot and is a bit experimental at this stage. We're making something that has never been done before- that makes you a pioneer. VB2's are for the pros who want perfection without searing hot surfaces, toxins, or whatever. Over time we will be able to make VB2 more economically. Until then, if you want the best hit over and over... here ya go. :)
 
t-dub

t-dub

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vaporbrothers said:
VB2 is not for everybody (yet)- It costs a lot and is a bit experimental at this stage. We're making something that has never been done before- that makes you a pioneer. VB2's are for the pros who want perfection without searing hot surfaces, toxins, or whatever. Over time we will be able to make VB2 more economically. Until then, if you want the best hit over and over... here ya go. :)
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My sentiments exactly, I love this device. I also want to add that everyone I have spoken to on the phone @vaporbrothers has been awesome. Very professional, "Lexus like" service which I really appreciate. The downloadable UPS call tag was such a nice touch.

Is it true we can have the off-timer altered?
 
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VB2 going in for repairs tomorrow. To my surprise VB is sending me a shipping label tonight, not
t-dub said:
My sentiments exactly, I love this device. I also want to add that everyone I have spoken to on the phone @vaporbrothers has been awesome. Very professional, "Lexus like" service which I really appreciate. The downloadable UPS call tag was such a nice touch.

Is it true we can have the off-timer altered?
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+2!

Been on the phone with a bunch of the crew over at VB today and they have been great to deal with. If you liked that dome and glass straw Vitolo posted give a call, they have them, definitely picking one of them up.

They are going to adjust my timer for me. 15 min is aparantly the time just before the glass dome will get hot enough to burn, so keep your silicon glove or oven mitt handy, but if you been dabbing oil for a while the safety apparatus is already there, lol. You only grab a hot nail once, maybe it took me 3 times but I did learn. I did try to grab the glass dome once when hot, and I did try to pick up the ceramic disk one time when very hot...maybe it is better to say if you play with fire you will get burned.

Anyway it sucks that our VB2s need to go back t-dub but I am glad to have had a chance to get to know these folks a bit better, this has given me a ton of confidence in this company and I am darn glad to be an owner of the VB2. Going to be even happier when I get it back.
 
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