I love how there's a core group now that knows what this thing is about- and will tell the world their experience! By looks alone, very true, many newcomers immediately identify with "crock pot" aka "pot crock" "chron pot" and wonder where the price comes from. It looks ordinary in a way, which is exactly what we were going for when we first drew the device.
Pricing of the VB2 reflects the fact that we're doing true hot nail temperatures that have never been done before and limiting ourselves to only VB approved materials (a very short list). This is no slow wispy smokey lingering "hmm that's interesting" kind of hit. It is an immediate "what the fuck just happened" and "may I please have another." The cost will reduce as we get into bigger batches- Also, we're planning a stripped down kit that's just the VB2 with basic VB warranty. Customers would need to purchase the super warranty separately if they want it. Currently, price is comparable to high end rigs and barely covers what it costs to build the unit in the USA. Can't do much on price just yet. Basically, if you want the most convenient and best tasting wax hit this is the way.
About being a slightly modified crock pot.. actually.. So many people identify it with a kitchen appliance. When we started drawing the design years ago most oil devices couldn't be used in normal households because of how crazy they looked. We wanted VB2 to have the look of something that always existed. Now that the market is exploding perhaps we should make a glowing ufo or a dildo, but since most the country is still in the dark ages we hope people will appreciate this thing sinks into any home and looks innocuous. It's the workings that make the difference.
P.S. Thanks to @Captain Comply for creating the CeramFam!
Wow, I awoke at 2am with my feet up over the back of the sofa and my head hanging towards the floor, thanks to the VB2. I was experimenting long and hard yesterday and was amazed at the amount of dabs I could do back to back to back to back, just so smooth. Nail dabs my body has a daily limit to how much my lungs will allow me to do, it appears my only limit with the VB2 is how long I can stay conscious.
$750 is a nice hunk of money and makes this vape hard to suggest to anybody except those that can afford it. I have spent way more then that chasing a non nail and torch oil setup and this is the only one that does exactly what a nail and torch does and can go and go and go with no fuss.
It isn't big at 5"h and 3.5"w but it weights 750g +. This mass is a big dabbers friend! While this unit is warm enough to start creating vapor in 3mins it is worth letting it heat for 15min or more. When the VB2 has been on for over 30min and it requires a rag or oven MIT to comfortable handle is when it will dab monster hits with ease for as many people who still can keep hitting. Also when at this temp the ceramic cleans itself in seconds so rapid fire dabs are easy. The mass of the VB2 works out very well to keep the unit preheated when you mess up on the 20min turn off. I now have been putting the unit on low after long sessions and it heats up for a dab very quickly.
$750 is a nice hunk of money and makes this vape hard to suggest to anybody except those that can afford it. I have spent way more then that chasing a non nail and torch oil setup and this is the only one that does exactly what a nail and torch does and can go and go and go with no fuss.
It isn't big at 5"h and 3.5"w but it weights 750g +. This mass is a big dabbers friend! While this unit is warm enough to start creating vapor in 3mins it is worth letting it heat for 15min or more. When the VB2 has been on for over 30min and it requires a rag or oven MIT to comfortable handle is when it will dab monster hits with ease for as many people who still can keep hitting. Also when at this temp the ceramic cleans itself in seconds so rapid fire dabs are easy. The mass of the VB2 works out very well to keep the unit preheated when you mess up on the 20min turn off. I now have been putting the unit on low after long sessions and it heats up for a dab very quickly.
Im sorry if I missed it but what are the temp settings? Im into the low temp dabs and I really dont want to be dabbing at 1000°f
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
The medium setting (slow & strong) is approx 700*F while the high setting (hot & fast) is 900-950*F.
VB2 can be turned down to low temperatures as some pros prefer, but the result could be wispy, slow, lame, and even taste burned. This is just my opinion/observation, but it seems more likely that with a low temp heater, the oils melt into the heater, bubble and cook, creating funky tastes that I don't like. You'd be riding that fine line between getting no hit at all and overcooking it. You're welcome to try
I think we confuse a lot of people by listing the heater's temperature - and maybe shouldn't anymore.
I know this is anti intuitive. Here's my simplest explanation so far: People assume quite understandably that for their oils to vaporize at let's say 365F, the heater needs to be around the same, perhaps 400 or 500F at the most. But to use my turkey analogy, that would be like putting a turkey in a 200F oven because turkey is overcooked above 165F. But in a 200F oven the turkey won't cook fast enough before it spoils or dries out. To make a good turkey, you need to use a much higher temperature, say 350-400F so that there is heat being transferred to the turkey quickly. Once the turkey rises to 165F it's removed from the oven. There is no overcooking even though the oven was set to 350F. Just like with the turkey, you need a significantly higher temperature if you want your oils to vaporize in a reasonable amount of time.
When we say our heater runs at 700 or 950 degrees, we are quoting the ceramic's surface temperature, nothing close to what the oils themselves will experience. When oils fall onto our ceramic plate they rapidly boil in the air a fraction of a millimeter above the surface. When oil reaches its vaporization point it leaves the heater and is inhaled by you. The only burning going on is at the end of the hit when the heater cleans itself back to a pure white.
All that said, anybody's welcome to set the VB2 lower using a jeweler's screwdriver on the bottom (we will show you how). Or tell us during your order that you'd like us to set the "Medium" setting to the temperature you want. We'll keep your info and followup with you- I'd like to gather as much feedback as I can.
Not a low and slow bbq'er I see!? Lmao. Cooking a brisket or pork butt at 225 to a finish temp of 190-205f in 14-20hrs is something we do. Sous Vid cooking is also that is done and I cook my chicken at 145f for X amount of hours to kill all baddies (depending on weight).
I actually feel like my vb2 could be a little higher on the highest setting. I measure my ceramic disk with my high temp probe and thermo coupler at 865f after a long warm up, 2nts on. When my unit is fully heated like this it hits like a champ and nothing can slow it down. Before a long heat up it needs x amount of time between hits to burn off contanaments of previous hit, sue me, I like my waxes and terpenes in my oil. I have read there is a tweak that can be done but I am still in the newb stage of this unit and plenty happy working with what I have.
My paper towel tells me I am on the 22nd dab of the day, I think I have done a bang up job on my tolerance.
I actually feel like my vb2 could be a little higher on the highest setting. I measure my ceramic disk with my high temp probe and thermo coupler at 865f after a long warm up, 2nts on. When my unit is fully heated like this it hits like a champ and nothing can slow it down. Before a long heat up it needs x amount of time between hits to burn off contanaments of previous hit, sue me, I like my waxes and terpenes in my oil. I have read there is a tweak that can be done but I am still in the newb stage of this unit and plenty happy working with what I have.
My paper towel tells me I am on the 22nd dab of the day, I think I have done a bang up job on my tolerance.
So my reclaim levels in my silicon and bubbler are on the large size. I have always felt running through silicon promoted more reclaim but I have also found lower initial vape temps create a lot of reclaim the further they travel.
I am measuring 865f on the high setting on the ceramic disk with a high temp thermo coupler probe and after a 45min warm up. I have read there may be some calibration to adjust temps and I will take you up on this, however when my unit is fully preheated and measuring 865f it is hitting like a fucking beast but the outer green silicon(?) and glass measure 165f so shit is hot. Still at this temp the ceramic disk cleans itself in seconds and ready for the next victim. Maybe hotter would not be better, lol.
I am measuring 865f on the high setting on the ceramic disk with a high temp thermo coupler probe and after a 45min warm up. I have read there may be some calibration to adjust temps and I will take you up on this, however when my unit is fully preheated and measuring 865f it is hitting like a fucking beast but the outer green silicon(?) and glass measure 165f so shit is hot. Still at this temp the ceramic disk cleans itself in seconds and ready for the next victim. Maybe hotter would not be better, lol.
Vitolo
Vaporist
I like it hot.
I taste more after-burn at lower temps.... forcing me to do a half hit, then back off to leave any residues to burn off alone. The better quality waxes, and oils ALSO have funky leftover flavor at the very end.
Since it is the last thing you taste, it is the flavor you step back with on your tongue.
At higher temps, it gets lost in there with the good flavors, as it vaporizes at once, and you step back with good taste on tongue.
I taste more after-burn at lower temps.... forcing me to do a half hit, then back off to leave any residues to burn off alone. The better quality waxes, and oils ALSO have funky leftover flavor at the very end.
Since it is the last thing you taste, it is the flavor you step back with on your tongue.
At higher temps, it gets lost in there with the good flavors, as it vaporizes at once, and you step back with good taste on tongue.
Vitolo
Vaporist
- You , as many here are a real patient.
- You also are a friend.
If I did not share this with you, I surely would not be living a life with karmic grace.
I am just overjoyed that it helps you like it does me.
** Oh heck.
I double posted in error.. I was supposed to edit this into previous post. Too late now, unless a mod wishes to merge these posts.
So would anyone like to donate to the "im a broke college student who could really use one of these fund"
TeeJay1952
Well-Known Member
Sure when you get it out of the "When You Come Over And Mow My Lawn Fund"
Il definitely mow some lawns for this haha
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
I'm developing a quick little cleaning regimen for my VB2:
- Let unit cool until you can remove and dissemble everything with your bare hands.
- Carefully set aside the ceramic insert.
- Place a small piece of paper towel in the bottom of base unit to protect heater and wipe under-edge of sides.
- Soak all pieces except base unit in ISO, rinse in warm water when clean, then dry.
- Take 0000 steel wool, slightly moisten with ISO, and while holding your VB2 base unit inverted at a 45* angle, use the ISO moistened steel wool to clean the interior walls.
- Wipe interior walls and under-edges clean with paper towel.
- Remove paper towel heater protector and turn unit onto high with no silicone sleeve or dome in place to burn off any remains.
- Let unit cool to reassemble.
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sneekierolyk
New Member
Good morning! So after following this thread as well as researching for months i have finally bought the VB2. I don't have time for a full review at the moment but enjoy this product so much that i had to sign up and quickly confirm the hype. VB2 is awesome! 
So easy to get great hits every time. Price hurt but hits are smooth and worth it!! Need to try the cleaning because there is a layer closest to the heating element that seems to be just getting darker, will try T-DUB's cleaning method and get when i have more time get back with pictures and a full review!! Thanks to all who have reviewed this item and to the manufactures that have allowed me this awesome experience!
So easy to get great hits every time. Price hurt but hits are smooth and worth it!! Need to try the cleaning because there is a layer closest to the heating element that seems to be just getting darker, will try T-DUB's cleaning method and get when i have more time get back with pictures and a full review!! Thanks to all who have reviewed this item and to the manufactures that have allowed me this awesome experience!
Vitolo
Vaporist
Tucson, AZ
Lawn out of control.
VB2 inside for hits at 30 minute intervals while you mow.
And i would walk 5 thousand miles and then i would walk 5 thousand more just to be the man that hits the vapor brothers vb2
Captain Comply
Wellness over intoxication
Welcome to the CeramFam @sneekierolyk so happy you joined the party!!!Good morning! So after following this thread as well as researching for months i have finally bought the VB2. I don't have time for a full review at the moment but enjoy this product so much that i had to sign up and quickly confirm the hype. VB2 is awesome!
May I ask what part if the world you are from?
sneekierolyk
New Member
Thank you for the welcome @Captain Comply! I currently am residing on the ca. I was wondering how I go about posting pictures.
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
upload to an image hosting site (like imgur) and copy the direct url link, then click the picture box icon just above where you type replies, and paste the direct url link in, and press okay.
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
VB2 Multi Converter pro tip: I noticed that the feet on the bottom of my VB2 had become unbalanced, causing a slight but very annoying wiggle on my counter top. Upon inspecting the "feet" on the bottom of the base unit I realized that they had been "pushed" in. It seems the pressure of pushing the dome on the top of the base unit resulted in the "feet" adjusting themselves inwards. A slight pull out on the short foot re-leveled the device.
biojuggernaut
Snob
Any sales coming up?
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
FC members get a $50 discount. No code, you must mention upon ordering.