Vaporbrothers Dabbler & Eleven Pen

[vape4health]

I'm so jealous of you guys being able to walk in a store a choose your concentrates. I was happy with abv oil as a stealth option but with good oil the dabbler has shot to the top of my list for ALL use. Its just so quick and easy.

Anyone get to try a new heater yet, my replacement is the old style and I'm pretty sure Joes is the old one too. VB said they was phasing in the new heaters and that was a couple weeks ago.

Edit: I commented on the smell before, apparently the smell was from the ABV oil because with good oil I don't have that dirty pipe smell, yep I know, it makes sense but some people are thick

 

[No-Wrinkle]

Yes... people, you included, have used the dabbler...

Did you try melting the concentrate in, and then just putting it upside down so it sits on the joint?

I do it with my Ultra, like here:

Ugh I should have just waited until I was sober to post. My apologies.

Thank you very much though. I'm going to try it tonight.

What were your thoughts on the expierence?

 

[JoeKickass]

Its just so quick and easy.

Yes, that should be the Dabbler slogan!

I used the Pax as my only portable for a few months and it was smelly and the battery lasted one day. Seshes took about 6-8 minutes. The Dabbler has virtually no "flower smell" just that oil musk, the battery lasts at least two days, and you can take a powerful hit in 30 seconds! Flower vapor is nice, but for quick needs a good oil pen is basically ideal IMO

 

[chimpybits]

Hey dabblers, I'm about to pull the trigger on an oil pen soon (within the next few days at most) as I've had enough of being tethered to my SSV.

I've tried my first dabs this weekend and think the short, potent sessions make sense for me. I have access to dispensary concentrate. (I might be tempted by a smallish flower portable, such as the XP or PPro, down the road when this is a bit more proven. Regardless I can still see the place for an oil pen in the lineup).

I've been following the Dabbler, BHOLT mini, Dr Dabber as well as the larger capacity Omicron offerings. I think these dab-on-the-go devices are quite similar and as Vito has pointed out, it's the reliability which varies. VB has been a long time cannabis vape company that has shown good commitment to its pen in this thread. This puts the Dabbler in the front for me.

Thinking silver with an extra silver heater. I'll request the new style heater. Anyway, getting tired of my protracted decision-making and looking forward to having puffs on the go.

p.s. Is the $5 off 1st spare heater code the only active VaporWarehouse discount code? Has the $10 off Dabbler code expired?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Ugh I should have just waited until I was sober to post. My apologies.

Thank you very much though. I'm going to try it tonight.

What were your thoughts on the expierence?

Haha sorry. I just now realized I didn't add a at the end of the first sentence. Promise I wasn't being condescending!

I don't have a dabbler, but a different oil pen. The added moisture is nice, hydrates the vapor and helps cool it down a bit, making it more comfortable. You don't need as much water compared to vaping flower, but it's worth the extra effort IMO.

 

[No-Wrinkle]

Haha sorry. I just now realized I didn't add a at the end of the first sentence. Promise I wasn't being condescending!

I don't have a dabbler, but a different oil pen. The added moisture is nice, hydrates the vapor and helps cool it down a bit, making it more comfortable. You don't need as much water compared to vaping flower, but it's worth the extra effort IMO.

It's sounds quite pleasant! I can usually do a 10sec drag on the dabbler with very little coughing but I'm excited to try some water filtration.

It's really for some of my friends though. A lot of them aren't used to concentrate and the dabbler tends to rip them up.


Edit: so I tried it out. With the mouthpiece on it didn't really work. Taking that off and leaving just the cone worked better. It's not able to go into the joint it's too big. So I kinda just set it flush to it.

Does anybody have any simple/easy ideas for rigging something up to make it a little bit better? Maybe a tube thing?

 

[Chill Dude]

Yes, that should be the Dabbler slogan!

I used the Pax as my only portable for a few months and it was smelly and the battery lasted one day. Seshes took about 6-8 minutes. The Dabbler has virtually no "flower smell" just that oil musk, the battery lasts at least two days, and you can take a powerful hit in 30 seconds! Flower vapor is nice, but for quick needs a good oil pen is basically ideal IMO

Yeah, I agree. The Dabbler is great for quick sessions. I can load a little dab and and take about 3 good rips and I'm instantly and intensley medicated. The Solo has been my main driver for quite some time but it takes a least a good ten minutes for me to get to where I need to be with flowers. Also, I've found the Dabbler hits to be very pure and tasty. I love this thing....


As far as smell goes, I give the Dabbler high marks. After a session I don't notice any smell at all which is a big plus for me. Joe, I think you were the one that mentioned the need to tape up the mouthpiece to avoid the unit emitting an oil smell. I really haven't experienced the need to do that so far.

The only problem I'm having is a somewhat restricted draw at the start and then when I continue to draw the air path loosens up. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it because the air path gets clogged from the buildup of oil below the coil?? Or maybe I'm loading too large of a dab IDK.

 

[No-Wrinkle]

Yeah, I agree. The Dabbler is great for quick sessions. I can load a little dab and and take about 3 good rips and I'm instantly and intensley medicated. The Solo has been my main driver for quite some time but it takes a least a good ten minutes for me to get to where I need to be with flowers. Also, I've found the Dabbler hits to be very pure and tasty. I love this thing....


As far as smell goes, I give the Dabbler high marks. After a session I don't notice any smell at all which is a big plus for me. Joe, I think you were the one that mentioned the need to tape up the mouthpiece to avoid the unit emitting an oil smell. I really haven't experienced the need to do that so far.

The only problem I'm having is a somewhat restricted draw at the start and then when I continue to draw the air path loosens up. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it because the air path gets clogged from the buildup of oil below the coil??

Yeah I think it's just a little bit of oil clogging the air way. That happens every once in while. I just give it a little heat - inhale - heat - inhale. If anyone has a better method please tell.

I'm glad you're loving this thing. It's very powerful and makes getting medicated a 1 minute ordeal or if you want you can take little hits all night to keep where you want.

 

[Chill Dude]

It's very powerful and makes getting medicated a 1 minute ordeal or if you want you can take little hits all night to keep where you want.

Good point NoWrinkle. I've only had my Dabbler for like 5 days, so I'm still in the excited kid with a new toy stage. I've been taking huge hits just to see how much power it has and every session I've had so far has been a race to the finish line LOL. This week I might try a couple longer, slower, relaxed sessions just to mix it up. Maybe 7 or 8 small hits over time, versus 3 huge lung buster hits.

In regards to the restricted draw Thing, I've been basicaly doing what you said pressing the heat button a couple of short spurts and inhaling to break through the clog. Not I big deal really. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a problem specific to only my unit.

 

[chimpybits]

Alright, I'm ready to buy (from vaporwarehouse) and bumped this back onto page 1.

1 stainless dabbler with 1 extra matching heater. I see that one can apply either the $5 off the Dabbler or the $5 Off Your First Dabbler Heater via one code or the other, but not both. So, $5 off is the best current offer I assume?

Also, I see that USPS first-class mail international in only $10.50 which is great. Might ask VW to avoid any issues as canuk customs by generic language - electronic device or kitchen utensil perhaps. Or I could have it shipped US ground for free and fetch it and bring it back myself "across the line". Hmm, I'll call VW in the morning and if they're amenable...

Then perhaps an oil slick ball or comparable small, non-stick vial. I'll try the lhs route first. A slip of cloth to protect the glass pick. Have kit. Will travel.

 

[pakalolo]

Alright, I'm ready to buy (from vaporwarehouse) and bumped this back onto page 1.

1 stainless dabbler with 1 extra matching heater. I see that one can apply either the $5 off the Dabbler or the $5 Off Your First Dabbler Heater via one code or the other, but not both. So, $5 off is the best current offer I assume?

Also, I see that USPS first-class mail international in only $10.50 which is great. Might ask VW to avoid any issues as canuk customs by generic language - electronic device or kitchen utensil perhaps. Or I could have it shipped US ground for free and fetch it and bring it back myself "across the line". Hmm, I'll call VW in the morning and if they're amenable...

Then perhaps an oil slick ball or comparable small, non-stick vial. I'll try the lhs route first. A slip of cloth to protect the glass pick. Have kit. Will travel.

I don't recall what VB listed mine as, but whatever it was it did not have any problems clearing Customs.

 

[chimpybits]

I don't recall what VB listed mine as, but whatever it was it did not have any problems clearing Customs.

OK, thanks pakalolo, that's encouraging.

They do state in their web site that "All orders are shipped discreetly." and there even is a gift option. I'll call in the morning and clarify this, then place the order online or phone.

 

[Chill Dude]

Okay, so I completed my first coil cleaning using 91% ISO and a dental pick. It came out pretty clean still a little bit of residue on the sides and underneath the coil. The coil itself came out reasonably clean. So here's the thing. After I was done with the cleaning I did a couple of 10 sec dry burns and I noticed a lot of smoke with a burnt smell. So I did one more burn off still a lot of smoke. Is that normal? I would think it would heat up dry without any smoke. Maybe be.cause there is at least some residual oil,even after a cleaning, that you can never entirely burn it off. It's kind of pissing me off because now my dabbler has that smokey smell rather than a freshly cleaned vape smell... Anyone?

 

[mephisto]

I just cleaned my coil as well. Turned it upside down in iso just enough to be touching the coil and some of the well. I left it for 3 days. Dried it off with a "blot" of a paper towel and then did 4 light burnoffs. The last burnoff got the coil glowing well. I loaded a fresh dab and it tasted like new. I think the key to clean is the burnoff of the residual. I would heat gently to promote burnoff, but feather the button use to avoid making the coil burn "dry" I did not try and scrape/scratch/rub anything off of the well. It came good and clean.

 

[Chill Dude]

I just cleaned my coil as well. Turned it upside down in iso just enough to be touching the coil and some of the well. I left it for 3 days. Dried it off with a "blot" of a paper towel and then did 4 light burnoffs. The last burnoff got the coil glowing well. I loaded a fresh dab and it tasted like new. I think the key to clean is the burnoff of the residual. I would heat gently to promote burnoff, but feather the button use to avoid making the coil burn "dry" I did not try and scrape/scratch/rub anything off of the well. It came good and clean.

When you completed your last burn-off did your unit still emitt smoke or was it totally clean?

Wow, a 3 day soak is a long time but if it works........

Edit: I did another round of ISO soaks of the coil and all the caked on oil came off just fine. Did two short burn offs and it's totally clean and ready for action. Lesson learned: if you want your Dabbler heater to be squeaky clean it takes some patience and several ISO soaks along with a couple of burn offs. I guess It took me about 30 minutes to get it totally clean!! It's all good....

 

[bruno13]

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Edit: I did another round of ISO soaks of the coil and all the caked on oil came off just fine. Did two short burn offs and it's totally clean and ready for action. Lesson learned: if you want your Dabbler heater to be squeaky clean it takes some patience and several ISO soaks along with a couple of burn offs. I guess It took me about 30 minutes to get it totally clean!! It's all good....

I had the same experience when cleaning. Mine also tasted a little smokey at first until I realized I did not load enough. I loaded a fairly large dab and got wounderful flavor again and again and again...

I have said it already but I will say it one more time. I love this little device. It is the only thing I use any more. I sold my Persei, Cera, and Dart and bought a backup dabbler and some oil with the proceeds.

 

[dime]

May sound like a stupid question, but really want to be sure here...
Does the Dabbler actually vaporize waxes/oils, or will it combust?
(not particularly interested in what happens with flowers)

Is there any charge/load time or is vapor actually produced within seconds?

I think this is the device for me, I like the style and loved my original VB whip.

 

[Chill Dude]

May sound like a stupid question, but really want to be sure here...
Does the Dabbler actually vaporize waxes/oils, or will it combust?
(not particularly interested in what happens with flowers)

Is there any charge/load time or is vapor actually produced within seconds?

I think this is the device for me, I like the style and loved my original VB whip.[/quote

The Dabbler will not combust. It actually shuts down after a 10 second hit (if you can make it that far LOL),and does not get close to combustion temps. My terminology in a previous post might have led you to believe it could combust. When I mentioned a smokey or burnt smell I was not inferring that the Dabbler combusted. I was simply stating that if you don't clean your heater/coil very well there will be a smokey Smell due to residual oil still left in the heater. Which, as Bruno 13 stated, will disappear after thorough cleaning and loading a good sized dab.

The Dabbler is a great device. You won't be disappointed.....

 

[dime]

Thanks Chill Dude.

Another quick question, maybe it was answered already, the "stainless" battery body doesn't quite match the heating element on the upper end -- is this perhaps because the stainless battery has a rubber coating?

 

[Chill Dude]

I have said it already but I will say it one more time. I love this little device. It is the only thing I use any more. I sold my Persei, Cera, and Dart and bought a backup dabbler and some oil with the proceeds.

I agree, the Dabbler is a winner!! Funny thing you mentioned buying a backup Dabbler because I did the same thing about an hour ago. I ordered a second chrome Dabbler along with a couple extra heaters.

Thanks Chill Dude.

Another quick question, maybe it was answered already, the "stainless" battery body doesn't quite match the heating element on the upper end -- is this perhaps because the stainless battery has a rubber coating?

No, the Dabbler doesn't have a rubber coating. The bottom piece is simply a flatter chrome finish while the heating element and the cone are a slightly shinier finish.

 

[dime]

No, the Dabbler doesn't have a rubber coating. The bottom piece is simply a flatter chrome finish while the heating element and the cone are a slightly shinier finish.

If I got the black style can you soak the entire upper half in iso or will that screw up the outer coating? Seems like the stainless would have no issue with that...

 

[bruno13]

May sound like a stupid question, but really want to be sure here...
Does the Dabbler actually vaporize waxes/oils, or will it combust?
(not particularly interested in what happens with flowers)

Is there any charge/load time or is vapor actually produced within seconds?

I think this is the device for me, I like the style and loved my original VB whip.

I do not know if it can combust. When the load is low and I hold the button down for more than 4-5 seconds it tastes a little smokey to me. It is similar to using a 1.5 ohm omicron cart. If you hold it down too long it can get harsh, at least to me. Nothing has ever started burning or glowing. When It starts to taste smokey I just put more in and wounderful flavor returns. And yes, vapor production is instant.

I typically draw for about 4 seconds. When the load is full I get massive very flavorful vapor. When it starts to get low I do not get much vapor and know to reload. The harsh flavor only occurs if I hold the button too long.

My stainless battery doesn't perfectly match the heater but I do not think it is coated.

If I got the black style can you soak the entire upper half in iso or will that screw up the outer coating? Seems like the stainless would have no issue with that...

Others have reported issuse with the coating coming off with iso.

 

[dime]

OK last question and I think I'm sold on the stainless...

A little difficult judging dab size and expected number of hits, what are we looking at maybe half a dozen medium-sized rips from a pebble size? (rough idea)

To what extent can you overload the thing with more for taking it on the go? Will it hold up or make a mess of the chamber?

 

[Chill Dude]

If I got the black style can you soak the entire upper half in iso or will that screw up the outer coating? Seems like the stainless would have no issue with that...

I have soaked the Chrome cone and mouthpiece in ISO and haven't had any problems. I only soak mine for two minutes, rinse with water and I'm done.

As far as temperature is concerned, Vapor Brothers states that the Dabbler is in fact temperature controlled and will not reach combustion temperatures within the max 10 second heat up time. That said, I think Bruno has a good point that if you stay on the button too long the taste diminishes and can have somewhat of a smokey flavor, but I don't think that's combustion. Perhaps Vapor Brothers can address that concern better than I can. For my use, I typically hold the button and draw between 4 and 6 seconds and I get excellent tasty hits all the time. In all practicality, I don't think too many Dabbler users can hit this thing continuously with the button pressed for the full 10 seconds. That would be one massive hit. For a little pen vape this thing is a beast, you gotta respect the power LOL...

OK last question and I think I'm sold on the stainless...

A little difficult judging dab size and expected number of hits, what are we looking at maybe half a dozen medium-sized rips from a pebble size? (rough idea)

To what extent can you overload the thing with more for taking it on the go? Will it hold up or make a mess of the chamber?

Yeah, I'd say you get around 3 to 4 big rips, 6 or 7 medium hits, or, if you're a sipper like FC moderator Pakalo ,you can probably get 12 to 15 very small hits.....


I stay away from overloading the Dabbler. If you seriously overload it, your oil can drip onto the threads and get a bit messy. Easy to clean with a little ISO though. If I were you I would just bring a small vial of concentrate and a dab tool with you on your outings.

 

[No-Wrinkle]

Does anybody have some tips with loading crumbles? I just got my first crumble. I usually have at least a slight wax consistency with my concentrates. The dabber tool I use is the highly educated ball tipped one. Which isn't very helpful with this stuff. How do I get all the fine particulates?