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Again...PM (personal message) René aka @vapman for a station. That IS the link. Or you can go through the official vapman site and use the contact form there.
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@Philreal187 I like the tiny house with the tiny vape, very cozy, indeed. Makes me want to walk out the door
through forests, along the rivers and over the hills with nothing more than a packed donkey and my vapman.
Here is a short update about the vapman station:
Because we sold most of the stations of the first series, we now wait for the second series to be ready before we carry the station in our online shop. Anybody interested is welcome to write us an email to:
mail@element-medical.ch
Thank you,
vapman
through forests, along the rivers and over the hills with nothing more than a packed donkey and my vapman.
Here is a short update about the vapman station:
Because we sold most of the stations of the first series, we now wait for the second series to be ready before we carry the station in our online shop. Anybody interested is welcome to write us an email to:
mail@element-medical.ch
Thank you,
vapman
lazylathe
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Just a thought...
The Vapman Station is super cool and very practical but very expensive for what it is, imo.
To me it looks like something I could make at home, although a much simpler version.
It looks remarkably like a soldering iron with a modded tip to hold the Vapman.
I can buy a digital soldering iron for about $30 and make a tip to hold the Vapman.
Would just have to work out the times to leave on top of heated platform although I am sure the soldering iron would have a light that blinks until the set temp is reached.
Just a thought....
I may do this as a side project!
Anyone else have any thoughts on this??
The Vapman Station is super cool and very practical but very expensive for what it is, imo.
To me it looks like something I could make at home, although a much simpler version.
It looks remarkably like a soldering iron with a modded tip to hold the Vapman.
I can buy a digital soldering iron for about $30 and make a tip to hold the Vapman.
Would just have to work out the times to leave on top of heated platform although I am sure the soldering iron would have a light that blinks until the set temp is reached.
Just a thought....
I may do this as a side project!
Anyone else have any thoughts on this??
Hey man
I hear what you are saying, & this type of approach has certainly been discussed, I gave it some serious thought - and I think this is even how the Station was originally conceived (a friend of René's was using a soldering iron I think . . . ) But I also think that you are missing just how clever the Station actually is.
I do not own, or have used one, but I believe this thing will ALWAYS replicate the perfect session with little to no variance - and it requires no intervention or technique from the user other than setting the dial & placing the Vapman on the dock & removing it when ready.
It measures the temp of your Vapman & then it heats for precisely the right amount of time to reach the required level of vaporization as set by you, via the dial.
Plus, there is very little risk of burning the house down!
I say give the soldering iron a go, & I'm sure you can have some success if you are clever . . . . but don't underestimate the genius of the Vapman Station.
I think you will see just how clever the Station is once you start to make some attempts with a soldering iron.
But good luck for sure - & definity post any projects, it'd be great to see some home-made stations!
Enjoy your Monday folks!
The Beagle
Bubbles & Bags
I own one and I think that like the Vapman itself it seems overpriced only untill you actually see it in person and can fully appreciate the obvious research work and craftsmanship involved. Yes, you could replicate its functionality with a soldering iron and some other contraption in the same way you can vape with an empty light bulb and a lighter but I still prefer to own something made on purpose.
lazylathe
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I agree with you guys but do not agree with the close to $340 CAD before shipping and duties on this device. Maybe $150 but not double!
And I do not see how it senses the temp of the Vapman.
As I see it, you find your preferred temp and place the Vapman on top and then it heats to the correct temp. Remove and hit.
Same idea as the soldering iron.
Set it digitally, place Vapman on top and once light stops blinking, remove and hit. Again you would have to find your preferred temp.
Think this will be a good project.
And I do not see how it senses the temp of the Vapman.
As I see it, you find your preferred temp and place the Vapman on top and then it heats to the correct temp. Remove and hit.
Same idea as the soldering iron.
Set it digitally, place Vapman on top and once light stops blinking, remove and hit. Again you would have to find your preferred temp.
Think this will be a good project.
With a temperature sensor?
I believe the Station only heats to one temperature.
The variance is in the length of time that the heater is engaged.
As I said, I think that there is more to the Station than meets the eye.
And you do realise that René made the Station don't you?!
C'mon think about it. I mean, need I say more?
He is a geniussssss and one of usssssssssss!
Andreaerdna
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With a temperature sensor?
I believe the Station only heats to one temperature.
The variance is in the length of time that the heater is engaged.
As I said, I think that there is more to the Station than meets the eye.
And you do realise that René made the Station don't you?!
C'mon think about it. I mean, need I say more?
He is a geniussssss and one of usssssssssss!
VM station I have 6 temps; you can see an image of it up this page
WakeAndVape
VapeLife X
I think it will be a good project as well.
I am with you, I do think the station IS EXPENSIVE!
That being said...the fact that it cost more than 2X's the amount of the vapman, let's me know it's quality.
Here on FC we do see complaints over the costs of units, some have more Merritt than others. This is not one of those overpriced units imo.
The vapman is very reasonably priced, at around 100 USD...you can get a vape that will virtually last forever.
If there was a price to hike strictly for greed, I imagine it would be done at vapman level, especially since most folks won't buy a station, just the vape it's self.
I don't have a station yet, but I will say that I believe René is very fair on his offerings....
Sure you could rig a soldering iron up and I'm sure it would work, but know René has went on a quest to make the perfect heating unit.
I'm sure the materials are safe, the electronics are lasting and he uses and is constantly seeking to improve his own products...
He deserves every penny for this hard work, even though you, I and others financial limitations, might prevent us from owning one as soon as we'd like.
The Beagle
Bubbles & Bags
Yep, the heater works at a fixed temp and just heating time changes between settings. From the Station instruction manual:
The exchange rates between the various currencies and the Swiss Franc (CHF) is what drives the prices of my products more than anything.
Last year we sold stations to South Africa, since then, the South African Ran dropped 50%, making the station twice as expensive and completely unaffordable to the South African folks.
The USD was around CHF 1.30 when I started, now he is 30% lower, meaning that I could sell the station inclusive shipping for USD 175.-- a few years ago and getting the same amount for it.
I don't know about the CAD, but I am sure he was higher in regard to the CHF, making vapman expensive in Canada.
I am always hoping, that the Swiss Franc is getting weaker, making life much easier for me.
The idea with the soldering iron is good, I talked about this many posts ago and I am also looking forward to pictures of your project. I really mean it!
It does vapman only good when people are using it in all sorts of ways, vapman is still the core and pride of my creations.Good luck!
vapman
OF
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If the price is not worth it to you, by all means pass. I think it's safe to say those of us who have actually used one think it's a fair price for what you get.
It does indeed sense the temperature of the VM and modifies it's heating cycle accordingly. This is done in the first second or two after you drop it in, a cold VM heats longer than a hot one. The resulting heat is 'right' to make vapor.
And no, it's not the same idea as a soldering iron at all.
By all means try to build your own (watch the safety issues of course), but in the end I think most will opt to buy the polished, proven product from VM. I plan to fiddle some eventually but I've no illusions of improving performance or utility. IMO another solid design effort, like the VM itself. Good luck with your efforts.
Actually it's continuously variable, that's only a scale marking so you can repeat settings. You can dial up most any level.
OF
WakeAndVape
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That's what my speculative thoughts were...unless the dial had six heat settings it has to 'click into' to work, there is an wide range of dial turn from lowest to highest...with some finding sweet spots in between markings.
In all honesty I would trade this new pax2 for a vapman heating station, if I knew someone who had one...the desire is super high.
OF
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I've got one, but no deal.....sorry. Perhaps there's a clue to how guys that actually own them feel about them, none offered used for sale? Since you can't get them from VM right now I bet plenty of guys would be happy to pay $250 for a used one in excellent condition?
For sure not for everyone, but IMO a product worthy of the Vapman mark. Swiss, you know........
OF
lazylathe
Almost there...
When I get started on this project I will start a DIY thread in the correct forum.
@vapman thanks for the words of encouragement!!
I will let you know how it goes!
I am quite liking the idea of a digital readout that tells you the temp of the heating area, much easier to reset to an exact point.
Just my musing though @OF
@vapman thanks for the words of encouragement!!
I will let you know how it goes!
I am quite liking the idea of a digital readout that tells you the temp of the heating area, much easier to reset to an exact point.
Just my musing though @OF
The Beagle
Bubbles & Bags
This is one of the best features of the station, it's not a "dumb" heater but it actually senses the temperature to always give the same result for every setting.
Can confirm this, I asked it to René by mail.
OF
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Agreed. Pretty cool. We do this as well (to a less precise degree) when we heat longer for hits when cold. We guess at the compensation needed, the HS can make an approximate measurement to base the timing on. And unlike with you and I the effect of the THC is not likely to interfere with judgement?
OF
nondarb
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Am I alone in having 0 interest in the station? I understand I'd probably feel differently should I had the pleasure of using one but somehow it seems like it may rob the vapman of some of its magic..?
I've also heard some of my particular usage styles aren't station friendly: 2 hit extractions and tiny pan 1-hits since the heat required is pretty extreme and you're dancing with busting. For more drawn out sessions and larger pans I'm sure the station is great however. The torching and spinning of the VM between your fingers just seems so pertinent to the ritual.
Anyways, I hadn't checked out my kief accumulation in my grinders for quite some time. Armed with 1.5g's I decided to experiment a bit, hash is scarce as hens teeth in my area so pressed kief is as close I get very often. The VM handles pressed kief better than anything I've found, generally I've used it to sprinkle or sandwich between layers of herb in other vapes but since this revelation my kief press may come into play far more often!
I've also heard some of my particular usage styles aren't station friendly: 2 hit extractions and tiny pan 1-hits since the heat required is pretty extreme and you're dancing with busting. For more drawn out sessions and larger pans I'm sure the station is great however. The torching and spinning of the VM between your fingers just seems so pertinent to the ritual.
Anyways, I hadn't checked out my kief accumulation in my grinders for quite some time. Armed with 1.5g's I decided to experiment a bit, hash is scarce as hens teeth in my area so pressed kief is as close I get very often. The VM handles pressed kief better than anything I've found, generally I've used it to sprinkle or sandwich between layers of herb in other vapes but since this revelation my kief press may come into play far more often!
OF
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Choughed
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Yeh, $350 Aussie dollars for me, I can't have a station either. Looks amazing though, and I bet it'd make it easier to get medicated while watching the movie. It always seems to be the way that I'll miss something important to the storyline in the 4 seconds I have my eyes on the flame. Amazing mm?
Exchange rates change.. I'm watching and waiting.. and when it does.. the world will be mine!! Uh, I meant the Vapman Station will be mine. hehe
Exchange rates change.. I'm watching and waiting.. and when it does.. the world will be mine!! Uh, I meant the Vapman Station will be mine.
hehe
Quetzalcoatl
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The VapMan is like a unicycle. Some people learn to ride it and enjoy the challenge. Some people learn to ride it and prefer two wheels. Both move you though and that's all that matters!