Vapman

[M0J0]

Thanks! I purged a bit before posting, but gave it another shot. Turned it up, still nothing. Turned to max, and didn't even click. Turned it way down, tried again, and get a really long flame - so we're back in action

Awesome.

 

[herbivore21]

Thanks for the advice everyone, definitely the mica was the main source of flaking, some of it got really scorched somehow. I have managed to scour away most of the offending parts with magic eraser and managed to get the bowl almost perfect and golden again too.

Magic eraser really is the way to clean the vapman! Iso and cotton buds is useless on this guy lol

My bowl is getting pretty amazing looking after a thorough 20 min clean with magic eraser. A few more runs over with magic eraser, then i'll wipe the bowl down with wet cotton cloth, then dry off, torch, iso wipe to ensure any last nastiness is removed, then cook it off and reload for the next go!

Now to see if I can keep this clean if I give it a good wipe down in between loads of hash?

 

[M0J0]

Thanks for the advice everyone, definitely the mica was the main source of flaking, some of it got really scorched somehow. I have managed to scour away most of the offending parts with magic eraser and managed to get the bowl almost perfect and golden again too.

Magic eraser really is the way to clean the vapman! Iso and cotton buds is useless on this guy lol

My bowl is getting pretty amazing looking after a thorough 20 min clean with magic eraser. A few more runs over with magic eraser, then i'll wipe the bowl down with wet cotton cloth, then dry off, torch, iso wipe to ensure any last nastiness is removed, then cook it off and reload for the next go!

Now to see if I can keep this clean if I give it a good wipe down in between loads of hash?

Very cool.

One thing. When it cools down completely, put your lips on the bowl and blow out hard. This will force any debris down and out the air tubes.

You don't want to breath in any magic eraser and crap that may end up in the air tubes...

 

[herbivore21]

Very cool.

One thing. When it cools down completely, put your lips on the bowl and blow out hard. This will force any debris down and out the air tubes.

You don't want to breath in any magic eraser and crap that may end up in the air tubes...

Cheers bro, I noticed that early on actually as hash tends to want to melt up and clog these holes too. I find heating it and blowing these out after each session is essential.

Sweet, got my bowl golden again and ran another bowl of the same bubble through and then gave it a good clean down right afterwards. Bowl came clean much quicker.

This vape definitely requires regular maintenance IMO.

I only use my Vapman for bubble hash basically. I will be more inclined to use my Mighty for flowers (I have high usage requirements so the bigger bowl helps) but the Mighty is way too harsh on the throat at melty bubble temps. I have found the vapman has saved me a lot of coughing! The only flip side is I do have to be careful and not get that little bit too ambitious with a bowl now because while I don't think I could accidentally combust this material, it definitely can get harsh on the throat if you overdo the torch.

Also a substantial amount of my mica has worn away in some spots, hopefully the station hasn't done damage.

I am not super concerned about breathing in mica long term (silica is not a concern) but still, particulates in the airways are something I like to avoid where possible and I'm already having quite a time adjusting to using bubble now, I was used to only dabbing the cleanest of absolute shatters for a while before my vapman arrived!

I blew really hard at the vapman with the bowl open and middle section removed before the last bowl and no mica came off, so I think the flaking might be over now so hopefully that is the last of it.

Definitely tasted much better in a clean bowl lol, I must have had like .1 of resin caked onto the bowl from all that bubble lol

 

[NorVape]

@herbivore21 Forgive me if you've already posted about this, but do you hit it dry or wet?

I prefer the Vapman through water, but I've been hitting it dry with oils a couple of times the last weeks, due to travel and festivities. It's quite enjoyable, flavorful and also not really harsh to be hash and oils at those temps, with such a short pathway for the vapor to cool. I had almost forgot how smooth it is dry.

Must be this Vapman Magic I've heard people speak of

 

[herbivore21]

@herbivore21 Forgive me if you've already posted about this, but do you hit it dry or wet?

I prefer the Vapman through water, but I've been hitting it dry with oils a couple of times the last weeks, due to travel and festivities. It's quite enjoyable, flavorful and also not really harsh to be hash and oils at those temps, with such a short pathway for the vapor to cool. I had almost forgot how smooth it is dry.

Must be this Vapman Magic I've heard people speak of

Hey brother! I tend to use the vapman almost exclusively through water. I am at home most of the time and whilst I could do this bubble dry, I prefer it with water to allow for monstrous rips - which I have become accustomed too after owning multiple d-nails, a sublimator and a Mighty with waterpipe adapter.

I am getting my technique with the torch down quite well and managing to get non burny tasting whitewall hits now with my bubble.

I have stuck to using my shatters on my dnails lately because I was having trouble cleaning my vapman and didn't wanna taste all that old hashiness underneath my delicious shatters - but now that I got it clean, I might give it another go

I have promised videos here for a long time and think it is really high time (pun intended) that I deliver on that claim when I finish all this work and get back to responding to PM's and more actively posting

This should be in a few days' time and to illustrate what can be achieved with the vapman and concentrates, I think I'll do a full bowl of bubble and top it off with an extra screen with some absolute shatter. The shatter is extracted from the same bubble using my signature one-wash LWET tek. Not a single bit of terp that is ethanol soluble is wasted in this extraction, I am salivating just thinking about it lol

Wish videos could communicate flavor!

 

[cregga]

Quick question for either @vapman or anyone who has ordered direct from him.

Any idea of shipping time from Vapman to Denver, Colorado?

My partner has decided he wants one, and would prefer the walnut, but depending on the wait he'd be ok with pear so we can stop ferrying mine back and forth between rooms.

Within a day of the vapman's arrival, we'd already decided to become a 2 vapman household, unexpected slack in the budget is letting it happen sooner than planned.

 

[TNT_error]

I ordered the station from them. Took about a week give or take.

 

[cregga]

Thanks @TNT_error! I passed that on and he decided to order the walnut version. I had been eyeing it myself at first, but decided to get the cheaper/faster one for initial purchase, so I could start trying out strains in a more manageable way. We decided we'll compare taste and then decide who gets which one.

I recall somewhere in the abyss of this thread, there was discussion of scoops/spoons/etc to make loading easier, and I picked up a tool that has worked out well.

It's this pipe tool (yes there's a typo in the description, it annoyed me too, but this was the design I preferred over others that are out there).

The scoop's pointed tip makes it super easy to load the vapman, even without the funnel. The pointy bit is good for knocking the last pieces of herb out of the bowl when emptying it, I haven't found a good use for the tamper, but the actual frame of it (the flat part on the bottom left in the picture) worked really well to adjust the flame on my Honest lighter.

 

[Seren]

....Also my middle section is completely oozing reclaim .. like a picture posted way back .. i think maybe by steama. Anyone else have lots of oil oozing down the sides of their vm?

You're certainly not alone in noticing the oils @VapourHaze

Here's a link to what the Vapman himself says about this phenomenon, and about cleaning.....

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vapman.94/page-59#post-692632

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[natural farmer]

I have a slightly different issue with oils myself… After a biggish cloud the middle piece, on the area above the filter, is sweating oils. Sticky oils, AKA resin… Do you think the middle section is so saturated with oils that it sweats them out when heated? Or could it be because the filter doesn't mate perfectly with the crucible?

 

[Seren]

Sounds saturated to me. Here's Vapman's advice.......

Any oils or liquids dripping out of the middle section are liquid resins from the herbs or concentrates being vaporized. The wood soakes up the resins and releases them when saturated. These oils can drip down into the heating chamber where they get recycled and vaporized again. So far so good. Now, if one wants to get rid of these oils soaked up by the wood, the middle section can be submerged into acetone which will solve the resins and eventually wash them out by rinsing the middle section several times. For those who don`t want to deal with acetone, I recommend to have a cotton swab ready during the session for soaking up the oils coming out when they are hot and liquid. For those who don`t care about oil dripping out of the middle section I can reassure that nothing bad will happen, your vapman will last as long as any other.

 

[NorVape]

Mine is also super oily, so I just bought a super cheap glass tube vape to bring with me for international travel.

I've cleaned the middle section completely with acetone before, but it started sweating oil again so quickly I feel I can't firmly stand my ground with the Vapman in my bag at the wrong customs office. It's too organic for this damned prohibiton! Meaning I like that it soaks up resin. It's living, in a way. But that also means that the Vapman always have traces of canna in it's system, I think.

 

[OF]

Do you think the middle section is so saturated with oils that it sweats them out when heated? Or could it be because the filter doesn't mate perfectly with the crucible?

I too think it's a 'soaking up' rather than leaking out thing. I offer two bits of evidence. Cleaning the filter inside and out and wiping up as much as possible and putting it back together leads to 'sweating' again right away (before stuff builds up again). Secondly I notice extra leakage showing up around the two pins, do you see that?

If it's a huge issue (like with customs) perhaps a fresh replacement center section is worth considering? Save it for 'public viewing', and use it sparingly?

OF

 

[VapourHaze]

Some good advice here, thanks @Seren for digging that post up My main concern with the oozing resin is less reclaim for me as my vapman is stealing it! I think possibly the only downside of the vapman is, you dont get as much reclaim as some other vapes? Then again maybe because the airpath is so short you're losing less condensated resin overall?

@OF i also see the most build up by the pins.

 

[jfrsn]

Mine is also super oily, so I just bought a super cheap glass tube vape to bring with me for international travel.

I've cleaned the middle section completely with acetone before, but it started sweating oil again so quickly I feel I can't firmly stand my ground with the Vapman in my bag at the wrong customs office. It's too organic for this damned prohibiton! Meaning I like that it soaks up resin. It's living, in a way. But that also means that the Vapman always have traces of canna in it's system, I think.

What kind of glass tube vape, I need something to take with me for when I go to jamaica again.

 

[herbivore21]

Mine is also super oily, so I just bought a super cheap glass tube vape to bring with me for international travel.

I've cleaned the middle section completely with acetone before, but it started sweating oil again so quickly I feel I can't firmly stand my ground with the Vapman in my bag at the wrong customs office. It's too organic for this damned prohibiton! Meaning I like that it soaks up resin. It's living, in a way. But that also means that the Vapman always have traces of canna in it's system, I think.

Yup, I can see my vapman getting extremely oily although I do try to get it pretty sparkly clean inbetween sessions.

I remember my Eds TNT Wong for my solo that was used mostly for the same bubble hash would get so completely gunked up that it fully clogged and no vapor got through til I cleaned it. Don't want that happening to the vapman which is use for aforementioned bubble only lol

 

[ChippyMalone]

Not Vapman specific, but my plan for future air travel is to buy a new device and send it ahead to my destination. Then clean it and send it back home. Just build this purchade into the vacation budget.

I'll have to figure out mmj acquisition at my destination, but travel will be stress free. But I don't really desire to travel anywhere Prohibition is still heavily enforced.

 

[OF]

Gentle Friends,

As we continue to grieve the loss of the Heating Station (soon we hope to be reborn....), I thought I'd take a few minutes to bore folks with my 'case solution'.

I had one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005X64OQ2/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
left over from a prior project (didn't fit the camera.....), in blue. Nice case, very solid, rigid top and bottom, good protection, IMO good fit. Looks like this:

Inside is the VM (broken down), VM lighter, and a snap top vial with bit over half a gram of prepared bud:

The top holds (in the net) the loading funnel, half a gram of some lovely Blue Dream CO2 oil, the VM concentrate screen and a few toothpicks:

Guaranteed good times on tap in a handy, pocket size, package. 3 inches by five, 1 3/6 inch thick at the thickest point (the lighter). Grab it and go.......

Recommended for your consideration.

Best Memorial Day wishes to the Yanks. A good time for reflections on our blessings. Our friends in other countries are invited to join in that reflection of course.

Regards to all, thanks for listening.

OF

 

[ChippyMalone]

@OF I've got a few random little camera and gadget cases. I think I will put together a Vapman travel kit. Thanks for the idea.

 

[NorVape]

What kind of glass tube vape, I need something to take with me for when I go to jamaica again.

I use a knock of PnP hydratube. If you check out Sunshinestore on DHGate.com you'll get it for cheap, or you can by an original from Vaporblunt if they're still in bussines.

@ChippyMalone The problem is that while prohibition might not be heavily enforced within countries, it's usually strict on the borders. But your postal idea seems like a good solution though

 

[herbivore21]

Whoa, I just did a huge whitewall hit with .15 of some OG Bomb 1:1 THCA:CBDA shatter in the vapman between 3 concentrate screens attached to my Luke Wilson rig.

This was the smoothest whilst satisfyingly cloudy hit I have gotten with the vapman yet! This hit like the Sublimator used to with oils!

However, I am really noticing that there is almost none of the flavour of whatever I put in the vapman when compared with the Mighty (for non full melt hash and flowers) and the D-Nail, Minicron Lite or Mighty (for oils) and more specifically, flavour seems to be all long gone before any clouds are really being made with the vapman in my attempts.

Just for reference, should I be tightly packing bowls or loosely? Also how do you guys all prefer to do flowers, oils and non fully melting hashes respectively? What sort of heat up time? What kind of torch? What kind of flame size? What part of the flame?

I seem to find that regardless of material (flowers/bubble/shatter) that the flavor is long gone before there are clouds of vaping coming. I am trying to whitewall a big piece (not for ages though, I am aware of the clouds that the material I am working with can provide) but especially with bubble I find it very hard to distinguish the usual very pronounced fruity terp profiles of the material I am using at all - they all have that generic taste that decarbed oils have in the vapman.

For reference, I use my vapman lighter at the lowest flame size that I can maintain a steady flame on without the gas not being strong enough. I heat with the soft tip of the flame rather than the harder, bluer part. I tend to count 4 seconds on, 5 seconds off and it always takes a good 8 of these torch heat ups to get the bowl started, and another 4-6 to then get a bigger hit (which will be pretty much devoid of the terp profile as I describe above).

Am I heating the wrong way or something? If this happened to me on a nail, I'd swear I was getting it too hot! Hopefully it is this - can someone school me on proper heating technique?

 

[Snappo]

@ChippyMalone - I would suggest using a fictitious return address just in case the package gets sniffed out.

 

[Nugg]

@herbivore21 have you tried hitting the vapman dry at those low temps before visible vapor is produced to get those lovely flavours then crank up the heat and hit it through water?

I find that in vapman the flavour is lost once you get visible vapor. If you heat it until you can see the wisps of vapor from the airholes/mouth piece you can definitely smell the goodies getting away. It's really noticeable in a car.

Maybe this is why vapman hits so hard... maybe if you wait for visible vapor you are loosing some low temp terps/thc and getting just the high higher temp stuff. All the seconds between the heating cycles add up, probably enough time for terps and stuff to boil off or for oil to decarb.

Does that make sense? I'm pretty vaked right now

 

[NorVape]

@herbivore21 IME you'll have to choose between monster rips and taste when using the Vapman. Heating it slowly in short bursts brings out the whole flavour palette. When I whitewall I usually heat it several times in one rip - quite obviously not suited for flavor parties hehe.