Doktor Dub
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Looking forward to the Pics as well...
The vape itself is beautiful. As an object it is great, it looks amazing, crafstmanship is great, nothing bad to say about it.
As a vape it just doesn't work for me.
Overall, great looks, but i just don't see how it makes sens compared to anything else, especially at that price.
Very sorry to hear VM isn't working out for you, but as you say it's not for everyone (what could be, really?). It can't be set up for users with hearty appetites like yours and yet have a bowl suitable for those on the frugal end of things. These things aren't magic, if you want lots of THC coming out you need to put a lot in. And if you want it to come out fast, you have to be willing to supply lots of power (heat) at the right time to make that happen.
VM is just tuned for the other end. It stores enough heat in normal mode to give a modest (but useful) hit on stored heat in the copper. You have to defeat that 'quantum heat storage' to get more volume. For instance, putting it on a WT and torching through the hit as some do so you can supply more total heat to the hit than VM normally allows. And concentrates might be the answer to 'not enough good stuff in one load for me'......but that's not really fixing a poor match either?
Being new and complete, hopefully it'll be easy to sell. You might consider something like the new Boundless CFC. One of the usual wags on another forum suggested I try it, being cheap (like $75 from PIU with the 15% discount). The maker has a growing reputation from older (more expensive) models, so I got one and have been playing with it off and on. I think it might be just the ticket for you.
It has a much larger bowl, on the order of .35 grams, so it holds about seven times as much as VM. It heats very fast (vapor in say 20 seconds?). That fast heat up is a clue that there's plenty of heater power on tap to support the hit.....and there is. While some guys no doubt can, I can't 'overrun' it hitting hard. Otherwise it has typical construction and features to offer, nice display, interesting shape, long runtime per charge, ceramic bowl and so on. Very little not to like if you're looking for a handy, discrete 'big gun' to put in your pocket.
https://www.puffitup.com/Boundless-CFC-p/bound.cfc.htm
Regards,
OF
I upgraded from Crafty to Mighty. Mighty honey moon ended recently. it is leagues better/dependable than Crafty.... That being said, besides when i must be stealthy or doing many things at once, i prefer Vapman. for quick sessions, Vapman. when i'm trying new herbs for flavor, i go to vapman. i feel its much more efficient than my Mighty. to catch equal effects with Mighty off of one vapman bowl, i'd be using at a minimum 2x the amount of herbs. Vapor wise, i can hit vapman at really low temps or at very high temps. With Mighty i stay at 353f. any higher and tomorrow my lungs will be irritated. i had the same issue with Crafty, but that temp is where i'd like to be. nice effects, lovely long lasting flavor....nothing close to the vapour i get from my Herborizer, Mighty,
Well, i got my 250€ vapman, and overall i am pretty disapointted.
The vape itself is beautiful. As an object it is great, it looks amazing, crafstmanship is great, nothing bad to say about it.
As a vape it just doesn't work for me.
The bowl is far too small to make sens. Even packed with quality herbs it takes me 3 full loads in a row to get anywhere, this takes so much time it's just not worth doing. Also it's not like you can use it casually whilst doing something else, it is the main event and needs full attention.
Even if I were to use the heating station, I would still have to load this thing over and over! Maybe most happy users are micro dosers?
Not a fan of the mouthpiece either, tried ebony and plastic, didn't like them. I really think it gains a lot from using a longer glass stem, the MFLB stems fit great and are cheap.
Most importantly, i find the vapour underwhelming, compared to what i get from any of my electric power vapes, even after working out a technique to get very even dark brown avb without combusting, it is still nothing close to the vapour i get from my Herborizer, Mighty, IQ, or even my now dead GH.
I guess as a low tech "zombie survival" vape it kinda makes sens, but at home there is no valid reason for me to use it IMO. It's just not efficient enough. I would rather spend 5 minutes warming up my Herborizer and hitting a bowl in 3 hits, than spend 15 minutes loading/heating/unloadin the vapman over and over.
I can't imagine using it on the run either, it is just too much faff and not very discreet.
Overall, great looks, but i just don't see how it makes sens compared to anything else, especially at that price.
@Carlos8400
if you still want to try a butane vape but for larger amounts
id suggest maybe one of the sticky bricks - it will get you very medicated very quickly
wth lots of visible vapor
im using it atm ..to get really blasted
but when im in the mood for only using a little
..my tiny vapman is there for me
im using a plenty cooling coil with it
fits easily with existing adapter
..getting some nice cool puffs
Well, i got my 250€ vapman, and overall i am pretty disapointted.
The vape itself is beautiful. As an object it is great, it looks amazing, crafstmanship is great, nothing bad to say about it.
As a vape it just doesn't work for me.
The bowl is far too small to make sens. Even packed with quality herbs it takes me 3 full loads in a row to get anywhere, this takes so much time it's just not worth doing. Also it's not like you can use it casually whilst doing something else, it is the main event and needs full attention.
Even if I were to use the heating station, I would still have to load this thing over and over! Maybe most happy users are micro dosers?
Not a fan of the mouthpiece either, tried ebony and plastic, didn't like them. I really think it gains a lot from using a longer glass stem, the MFLB stems fit great and are cheap.
Most importantly, i find the vapour underwhelming, compared to what i get from any of my electric power vapes, even after working out a technique to get very even dark brown avb without combusting, it is still nothing close to the vapour i get from my Herborizer, Mighty, IQ, or even my now dead GH.
I guess as a low tech "zombie survival" vape it kinda makes sens, but at home there is no valid reason for me to use it IMO. It's just not efficient enough. I would rather spend 5 minutes warming up my Herborizer and hitting a bowl in 3 hits, than spend 15 minutes loading/heating/unloadin the vapman over and over.
I can't imagine using it on the run either, it is just too much faff and not very discreet.
Overall, great looks, but i just don't see how it makes sens compared to anything else, especially at that price.
The fact that vaping has to become the main activity really bothers me.
I have always smoked/vaped whilst doing things, and it's just not possible with this vape.
If you like to complicate your life it might work for you, but otherwise stay away from this thing!
@The Beagle Thats a nice Combination, would like The VM+Station an dHerborizer TI myself. Now just somebody has to buy my other Vapes......
What benefits has owning the Station for you?
Have anice Day!
Well, day 2 of my vapman only experience and things are pretty bleak... The more i use it the less i like it.
Tried to go for a wood walk with it, couldn't get anything going whilst on the move, it's just too complicated to use whilst doing anything else.
The fact that vaping has to become the main activity really bothers me.
I have always smoked/vaped whilst doing things, and it's just not possible with this vape.
If i could just give it 100% attention for a couple minutes and move on it would be ok, but because i have to reload it 2 or 3 times in a session it just takes far too long and is far too fiddly.
Thankfully i also brought along a Chameleon Monsoon wet pipe, a bit sad to go back to combusting, but i just don't have the patience to deal with this vape.
If you like to complicate your life it might work for you, but otherwise stay away from this thing!
I am by no means saying the vapman is a bad product, it is a lovely vape, i just don't like the function.
M0J0, you nailed it with your description! I think i could deal with it if the oven was twice the size, or could be packed a little bit more without airflow dropping, but as it is i just cannot get enough out of it to justify the time spent using it.
But like i said, it is very nice object and i am going to keep it just as an emergency low tech vape.
But like i said, it is very nice object and i am going to keep it just as an emergency low tech vape.
I'm still slightly in shock at reading a negative review... I'm sure there are plenty of people who wouldn't like the VM, they just never bought it or posted their displeasure. We're not used to it on this thread. I can't wait to get home and use mine tonight !
Indeed, we are not used to it. ;-) Normally, people they don't like/need a ritual for the vaping sessions would never buy a VM.I'm still slightly in shock at reading a negative review... I'm sure there are plenty of people who wouldn't like the VM, they just never bought it or posted their displeasure. We're not used to it on this thread.