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KidFated.
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I was riding with no back brakes the other day and almost hit a sidekick head on going around a corner in the trail. Got home, fixed brakes. Vapman is the perfect riding companion!
I've gotten used to using my front brake 75%of the time anyways
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OF
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You know I'm kinda surprised that the cloud chasers aren't trying to get VM to make an even bigger one.......
That would be 'the American way' or 'par for the course', depending on your perspective?
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OF
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Agreed. I didn't say I wanted one, or thought it was a good idea.....rather a 'don't know how good they got it' kind of expectation that doesn't seem to have come up?
Where else doesn't 'more power/speed/bigger sex organs' not come up?
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UnshavenFish
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So after lots of use my Vapman lighter gave up 
(no spark) sad sad day, so I rushed it to the operating room and lots of donors stepped forward, after a little carnage and trial and error...
The prof gave up the goods
I would say he will be sadly missed but he was a bit of a dick 
we never really got on as he was lazy with his flame size, so thanks to a £2 cheapo my Vapman lighter lives on 
I still have an unused spare Vapman lighter but if I can keep this one working I will as the spare is more for if I ever loose it, although I tend not to loose things just put them down when baked
And I think after reading many posts I have been missing out not having the concentrate screens, so I found two UK suppliers...
http://www.dontaskdonttell.co.uk/vapman-concentrate-sieve-screen-15936-p.asp
This is the first I found and cheapest price per screen but I can't read the writing lol
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vapman-Concentrate-Sieve-Screen-x3-for-Vapman-Vaporizer-/261957262016
This one I can read so will probably get 6 to try out, free shipping also here, not sure on shipping for the first link as I can't read it.
(no spark) sad sad day, so I rushed it to the operating room and lots of donors stepped forward, after a little carnage and trial and error...
The prof gave up the goods
I would say he will be sadly missed but he was a bit of a dick we never really got on as he was lazy with his flame size, so thanks to a £2 cheapo my Vapman lighter lives on I still have an unused spare Vapman lighter but if I can keep this one working I will as the spare is more for if I ever loose it, although I tend not to loose things just put them down when baked
And I think after reading many posts I have been missing out not having the concentrate screens, so I found two UK suppliers...
http://www.dontaskdonttell.co.uk/vapman-concentrate-sieve-screen-15936-p.asp
This is the first I found and cheapest price per screen but I can't read the writing lol
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vapman-Concentrate-Sieve-Screen-x3-for-Vapman-Vaporizer-/261957262016
This one I can read so will probably get 6 to try out, free shipping also here, not sure on shipping for the first link as I can't read it.
OF
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Guys, I'm poking in fun. You can't simply scale the VM up (or down). It's a balance, change say the bowl size and 'everything changes'. Things like the thickness/profile of the pan will no doubt need adjusting (read LOTS of testing), as will vents and so on. Then a new set of tooling will have to be built to make them.
A whole new product, really.
With the lower volume this probably means a very much higher cost per unit. More costs will have to be recovered from each unit, driving the price up, cutting sales.
I'm with KidFated here. Don't mess with the secret recipe. Doing so is at best a bad joke......not a serious suggestion.
Amen. 'cept maybe more fancy woods.....
OF
A whole new product, really.
With the lower volume this probably means a very much higher cost per unit. More costs will have to be recovered from each unit, driving the price up, cutting sales.
I'm with KidFated here. Don't mess with the secret recipe. Doing so is at best a bad joke......not a serious suggestion.
Amen. 'cept maybe more fancy woods.....
OF
OF
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Yeah, sorta. It's not that simple. The bowl is the heat reservoir as well as the distribution scheme. It has to deliver calories at just the right rate over time to keep the surface temperature at the load constant. Which is why I think it's cone shaped in cross section (extra heat will be needed near the center since heat will conduct outwards, but not inwards. It has a lot in common with MFLB that way I think. Heat management is a big issue if it's going to be easy to use and effective.
Something like VG, where you add heat as you go not store and distribute it later to schedule, would be much easier I think.
And I still think basically 'nobody' would lay the kind of bucks needed to cover development and tooling. Think about how much that first production unit costs......$100,000 is not an unreasonable estimate I think? Would you really pay say $300 for one (I'm thinking that's reasonable for say a run of 1000?)? I don't think I would.
Don't let me talk you out of trying, of course. It's just that it wasn't a serious suggestion when I made it, and I don't think it's a smart one no matter who came up with it.
I'm still with KidFated......who'da guessed?
OF
I doubt that the development of the original vapman did cost 100.000 usd... Did it?
I do understand that a bigger vapman is not necessary at all. But i would pay up to 220 usd for a bigger vapman with double bowl size. And i would pay up to 150 usd for a portable heating stick where i can put my vapman on.
Maybe Rene needs something to develope in the next years, i think it would be great especially for all dry herb users of the vapman.
I do understand that a bigger vapman is not necessary at all. But i would pay up to 220 usd for a bigger vapman with double bowl size. And i would pay up to 150 usd for a portable heating stick where i can put my vapman on.
Maybe Rene needs something to develope in the next years, i think it would be great especially for all dry herb users of the vapman.
herbivore21
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Actually on this note, I'd really like a middle piece which is made out of reclaimable material. Wood is great for the outside of the bowl, but my middle piece is so full of resin (deep into the wood) that when I heat the bowl up a decent bit, it creates significant vapor indefinitely, I can watch the hash oil bubble out of the wood, smells like THC Bomb lol.
What are the chances of say a removable stainless steel inner path with a wooden outer ring for heat insulation??? This would especially benefit avid hash users, of which there are a few of us about
Enchantre
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How about just pony up for an additional middle (mouthpiece?) section to dedicate to flowers? Pick a different wood... or, maybe go with the super dense wood for a concentrate MS?Actually on this note, I'd really like a middle piece which is made out of reclaimable material. Wood is great for the outside of the bowl, but my middle piece is so full of resin (deep into the wood) that when I heat the bowl up a decent bit, it creates significant vapor indefinitely, I can watch the hash oil bubble out of the wood, smells like THC Bomb lol.
What are the chances of say a removable stainless steel inner path with a wooden outer ring for heat insulation??? This would especially benefit avid hash users, of which there are a few of us about
Actually on this note, I'd really like a middle piece which is made out of reclaimable material. Wood is great for the outside of the bowl, but my middle piece is so full of resin (deep into the wood) that when I heat the bowl up a decent bit, it creates significant vapor indefinitely, I can watch the hash oil bubble out of the wood, smells like THC Bomb lol.
What are the chances of say a removable stainless steel inner path with a wooden outer ring for heat insulation??? This would especially benefit avid hash users, of which there are a few of us about
I'm with you on this one @herbivore21, what about disposable paper inserts, made of that heat proof paper used for cooking and baking? I think stainless steel would conduct the heat along the air path making the vapor warmer than it is on wood or paper.
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VapourHaze
Rexcornish on IG, Vaping since '02
Im sure this is in the pipe line (pun intended) but a middle section which is 14.4 mm and shaped like a male ground glass joint would be popular i think.
Andreaerdna
If God is the answer, then the question is wrong
Is it possible a middle section made mainly out of glass, shaped as a 14mm male connector?
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@VapourHaze The paper inserts are not in the pipe line but I was thinking about this before.
Middle section with male adapter for water tools is somthing I could make anytime.
@Andreaerdna The middle section made of glass gets extremly hot. Glass is a bad conducter but still a much better one than wood. Glass would be ideal for cleaning but is a no go for this purpous.
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Middle section with male adapter for water tools is somthing I could make anytime.
@Andreaerdna The middle section made of glass gets extremly hot. Glass is a bad conducter but still a much better one than wood. Glass would be ideal for cleaning but is a no go for this purpous.
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