Discontinued Utopia Desktop Herbal & Oil Vaporizer

virtualpurple

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Whoa,

I believe this time I'm in love for real.

I cant wait to see this thing in release in production. For the sake of novelty I would love to have the 1701st unit, but in all reality I have got to be among the first in line.

As an owner of several of the higher class vapes, I can't wait to see if this thing will truly leave them in the dust.
 

herbivore21

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Yeah I gotta say I'm tempted to check this out, partially because I've always had a lot of time for G and his work, but also because I truly am interested to see how much flavor can improve going from all glass below the ti heater (which has no contact with plant material and minimal contact with vapor) to completely all-glass for the whole airpath!

Ever since I got into vaporization, people have operated on the assumption that all glass is the best airpath. I can't wait to be able to truly test that hypothesis!

Hey G, are there gonna be any metal screens in the airpath? How are we gonna stop bits of bud getting through the airpath if not? This is super interesting and if you can break new ground here, that could really set you ahead of the curve ;)
 
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Yeah I gotta say I'm tempted to check this out, partially because I've always had a lot of time for G and his work, but also because I truly am interested to see how much flavor can improve going from all glass below the ti heater (which has no contact with plant material and minimal contact with vapor) to completely all-glass for the whole airpath!

Ever since I got into vaporization, people have operated on the assumption that all glass is the best airpath. I can't wait to be able to truly test that hypothesis!

Hey G, are there gonna be any metal screens in the airpath? How are we gonna stop bits of bud getting through the airpath if not? This is super interesting and if you can break new ground here, that could really set you ahead of the curve ;)

Nothing but glass in air path. Not even a hint of anything else.

I can't say just yet but will show it when time comes.
 

virtualpurple

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Nothing but glass in air path. Not even a hint of anything else.

I can't say just yet but will show it when time comes.

Will you also be so kind as to update us on the ease of cleaning when it has had a fair amount of use once the time comes?
 
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Well did the first round of testing. No video because of some design issues that will be fixed on next iteration.


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We are going to make stronger heaters and redo the main chamber.

The reason for this is well because it will be easier to do what we want at 1/4 of the power then trying to get where we want to get at full power.
 

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Quick update.

Spoke to our glass engineer today and he said he will have a the next version by January 1st delivered to my door.

I then will take the new heaters and install them and Testing should start Jan 15th for the Second version of Utopia.

We are going from 800 watts to 2400 Watts thats because we had 2 heaters at 400 watts each that will be upgraded to 4 heaters at 600 watts each. Not sure why I decided to do this but not sure we will be using full power but we shall see.
 
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virtualpurple

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Quick update.

Spoke to our glass engineer today and he said he will have a the next version by January 1st delivered to my door.

I then will take the new heaters and install them and Testing should start Jan 15th for the Second version of Utopia.

We are going from 800 watts to 2400 Watts thats because we had 2 heaters at 400 watts each that will be upgraded to 4 heaters at 600 watts each. Not sure why I decided to do this but not sure we will be using full power but we shall see.

You're killing me in anticipation.

When you do test out the unit, count me among those that hope it boldly goes... ;)
 

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You're killing me in anticipation.

When you do test out the unit, count me among those that hope it boldly goes... ;)

Unit testing will start Jan 15th, ill show parts off soon as i get it minus the heaters as this is a new style of heater we are developing. If that is not enough get ready for 3200 watts of power, i swear to god this Utopia will boldly go where no vaporizer has gone before.
 

virtualpurple

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Unit testing will start Jan 15th, ill show parts off soon as i get it minus the heaters as this is a new style of heater we are developing. If that is not enough get ready for 3200 watts of power, i swear to god this Utopia will boldly go where no vaporizer has gone before.

I can't wait to hear how things go. As I'm sure you'll be giving her all she's got.

You've already got me reeled...one to beam up.
 

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at this stage might as well double as a room heater. Im betting the guys in Alaska be like finally a dual purpose vaporizer.

If i can pull this off, its not the vaporizer im gonna be mostly fond of its the control unit because that is just going to make it one hell of a sight.
 

virtualpurple

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Brother I can tell you that up here in The Fairbanks/North pole area I'm currently sitting at -6 and will be hitting -35 by Wednesday. I am happy with anything that saves me a little heating fuel!
 

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Another day another heater. 36 to be exact.

Today I received 36 600w heaters that will go into the Utopia's warp nacelles. Now that the heaters are here I am waiting on the last part so that I can hand it off to the engineer so he can assemble them, and blast off once he gives them back.


What do you guys think of optional forced induction to hot box a room ? Meaning it will put out vapor for the whole room to enjoy. Like a sauna.

The nerd in me is giddy about supercharging a warp nacelle.
 
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PPN

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36 600W!!!! Do you want to heat the building also?

Sorry but I don't understand why you need so much power......
 
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36 600W!!!! Do you want to heat the building also?

Sorry but I don't understand why you need so much power......

I may build a vaporizer one day that uses 22k watts, but what I mean by my statement is I have 36 heaters that if the first prototype works out, I may make 2-3 more to send out to get tested. Meaning I have enough materials to do few prototypes for testing purposes of we want to go that route.

Next version Utopia that I will have in my hands will run on 4 heaters for a total of 2400 watts. The reason we went with this route is we want to build a vaporizer that has the power but to do what we want but will achieve that with only using fraction of that power.

In other words build the biggest baddest vaporizer or don't build it at all.

We really want to have the capability to hot box a room.



But man can anyone say USS Enterprise (cvn80)? 22k heater that will vaporize your neighborhood dispensary in a second.
 

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using fraction of that power.
So 2400W on a dimmer?

Is all that wattage needed because you want it to look like a ship? Sounds like your heat source is far away from your load?

I mean this in a good way: you are using a crazy amount of wattage.
 
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So 2400W on a dimmer?

Is all that wattage needed because you want it to look like a ship? Sounds like your heat source is far away from your load?

I mean this in a good way: you are using a crazy amount of wattage.

Yes but there are other variables that play into this and reasons why we decided to go this route.


We believe to be 100% convection the heat source has to be far away from the plant material so that it does not effect it via radiant heat at all, few other reasons are that we want extremely fast heat up times, with many desk tops hovering around 2-5 minute mark this is to long of a time to turn it on load it use and walk away, reason why many people will leave it on. We want to eliminate this by offering 30-45 second heat up time, ample time to press the on button while its heating up load it and hit it. All of this should be accomplished within under a minute. Now when you are looking at a device of this nature and being it all glass from start to finish then size comes into play and when we thought about it why not make a start ship since its going to be something that no one has ever attempted.

As far as crazy amount of wattage yup that is true but at same time I want to build something that has not been done, and its going to be the best at what it does for this we need to leave the idea of compact behind and make something that will be the standard for taste, cloud production and performance for years to come.

I do understand about it being a Ego thing and a selling point but the Utopia will be a limited run item. It will be for the true science fiction fan who wants to have a Starship on their desk, home or room to say "hey lets use the Utopia to enjoy the full flavor of this plant"

plus

the fact that the current bowl can hold about 14 grams of plant matter should speak about what is needed to vaporize all of that at once.
 
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virtualpurple

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So with the heat source being so far away from the herb could one leave the herb in place and take a hit 10 minutes later without the glass passively cooking the material?

And will large amounts of herb be required to produce thick potent vapor? The 14g capacity is pretty remarkable, but I am definitely used to vaping much smaller loads than that!
 
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:popcorn: :mmmm: Damn if it is capable of that big of a load and still handle a smaller load without disintegrating it... I can't imagine the flavor from ridiculously huge loads. I can get amazing flavor and vapor from the Bender(capable of a pretty big load), but better pay attention or else I'm smoking.
 

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I could conceive of a vapor lounge (in a legal state) where you pay by the hour to sit in the room with the Utopia. Throw in a coffee counter, and super fast internet access for customers and it could be a winner.
 
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So with the heat source being so far away from the herb could one leave the herb in place and take a hit 10 minutes later without the glass passively cooking the material?

And will large amounts of herb be required to produce thick potent vapor? The 14g capacity is pretty remarkable, but I am definitely used to vaping much smaller loads than that!

Yes it won't cook the material unless there is air flow.

It should work between .01 grams to what ever the max limit we decide to make it.

Shit this thing sounds completely nuts. I love it!

Is the first material vaped in there going to be something like "Romulan"?

you sir are a genius. It will be romulan.


:popcorn: :mmmm: Damn if it is capable of that big of a load and still handle a smaller load without disintegrating it... I can't imagine the flavor from ridiculously huge loads. I can get amazing flavor and vapor from the Bender(capable of a pretty big load), but better pay attention or else I'm smoking.

This will be an improvement.

I could conceive of a vapor lounge (in a legal state) where you pay by the hour to sit in the room with the Utopia. Throw in a coffee counter, and super fast internet access for customers and it could be a winner.

It is designed for a group use or solo missions. So a vapor lounge might get that is if we don't limit it to our vapor lounge only.
 
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