Using more Weed in vaporizer than when i smoked.

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Guggsy

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Hi I am looking for people's input and advice on vaping.

I have smoked weed for over 10 years. probably get through about an Oz a month. I also brought a Da Vinci Ascent Vaporizer, so I can wean my self off tobacco , and take the more healthier option. But I felt the Vaporizer wasn't doing anything for me. I tried all various methods, different grinds, temperatures, how I inhaled. I mean I got the vapor, but not the high I get from a joint.

I understand the fact when you smoke you inhale, all sorts of various carcinogens and chemicals, and the fact that you slightly starve your blood/brain of oxygen due to the smoke, in turn giving you that high from a joint or bong.

I stopped about a year ago, but have recently over the past few months, taken full time vaporizing up. Using my Ascent vaporizer. As I mentioned before it used to take me a month to get through a ounce but now, vaporizing it, it takes me a week. I have tried 4 different types of bud. I need to vaporize at least 2-3 bowls one after the other to get any where near the same feeling as a joint, but still only mild. I vape at about 195-210 C. I get decent vapor clouds. The ABV is evenly brown

Being disabled I get through a lot of green, as it eases a lot of ailments, related to my disability. but I do not want too combust and mix with tobacco like I used to. Or have to keep buying an ounce every week as it is very expensive for the decent stuff.

So I would like to hear from you, if you have had a similar experience and what you done.

I read of people in here and on the internet saying they use less when vaporizing and get higher than smoking. Are these people just light weights, or experiencing a placebo effect. Because that certainly isn't true for me, Or do I need to go to Amsterdam, and try some proper quality stuff in my vaporizer instead of the stuff we get in the UK.
 
CarolKing

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
If you are vaporizing mainly at home and you have an electrical outlet I would suggest a log vaporizier. They use less cannabis and they have wonderful flavor. I have the Woodscents and the Enano but a lot of folks also have the Underdog. There are others brands out there.

IMO the Woodscents that I have uses less cannabis than the Enano but I love the Enano too. Both wonderful flavor.

I agree the Davinci Ascent uses a lot of herb. You can use glass spacers inside to take up some room. It also vaporizes cannabis that you don't get a chance to enjoy with a full oven. A lot of waste.

A desk style unit like a log vape might be your best bet. Save the Davinci when your out and about.

There is also the newer Solo II that I don't have yet but that will be my next vaporizer. This has just come out. Only Arizer has them available which is who makes them. They are out of Canada.

You can use a Solo plugged in or not. The older model you can get for $150 or less and has been around since 2011. The Solo is kinds big but only a little bigger than your Ascent.

The oven is much smaller and uses way less cannabis. It has an all glass air path and uses glass stems/mouthpieces.

I can get 2 -10 min. sessions out of one full load. Very easy to maintain.

No lighted digital exact temp with the older model Solo but the newer one has a lighted digital dial and exact temps.
 
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Guggsy

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CarolKing said:
If you are vaporizing mainly at home and you have an electrical outlet I would suggest a log vaporizier. They use less cannabis and they have wonderful flavor. I have the Woodscents and the Enano but a lot of folks also have the Underdog. There are others brands out there.

IMO the Woodscents that I have uses less cannabis than the Enano but I love the Enano too. Both wonderful flavor.

I agree the Davinci Ascent uses a lot of herb. You can use glass spacers inside to take up some room. It also vaporizes cannabis that you don't get a chance to enjoy with a full oven. A lot of waste.

A desk style unit like a log vape might be your best bet. Save the Davinci when your out and about.

There is also the newer Solo II that I don't have yet but that will be my next vaporizer. You can use a Solo plugged in or not. The older model you can get for $150 or less and has been around since 2011. The Solo is kinds big but only a little bigger than your Ascent.

The oven is much smaller and uses way less cannabis. It has an all glass air path and uses glass stems/mouthpieces.

I can get 2 -10 min. sessions out of one full load. Very easy to maintain.

No lighted digital exact temp with the older model Solo but the newer one has a lighted digital dial and exact temps.
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I wouldn't have thought the type of vaporizer would make a difference. whether plugged in to mains or portable, as long as it vapes correctly.

I tried the glass thing in the Ascent, for less weed use but still. plus I also I find that the high I do get from vaporizing does not last as long as smoking, anyone else find this?
 
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cobra505

cobra505

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Guggsy said:
I have smoked weed for over 10 years. probably get through about an Oz a month. I also brought a Da Vinci Ascent Vaporizer, so I can wean my self off tobacco , and take the more healthier option. But I felt the Vaporizer wasn't doing anything for me.
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Your not alone when it comes to this. I have been trying to get my wife totally on a vape for over a year now. Purchased her a Focus Pro that she actually does use during the day. But at night she's a bong person. I tried getting her to use my Davinci IQ but no dice. I also purchased a XMax Starry hoping she would like that, no dice. Some people the high just isn't the same. For others it is a matter of temp. Lower temps is more of a body mellow type high, while higher temps would give you a more full body head type high.
 
CarolKing

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I have an EVO which is a heavy hitter with a water tool you can buy to come with it but you're looking at over $400. It's bigger so I have it put away and get it out once and awhile. It uses a moderate amount of cannabis. It will get you higher (more medicated) than the Ascent. It's my face melter. You can use wax and shatter with it. It comes with a glass nail.

A desk style will normally get you more medicated but I have a Milaana and it's a portable, also a heavy hitter for a portable.

Those with high tolerances might need a reset. A week without our fav flower.:o
 
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Puffers

Puffers

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Love my Evo only thing that can take me from 0-100 quicker is probably my Supreme V3. The torch takes a bit tho, the Evo you can set it and forget it, well except for that damn timer :)

Haven't used an Ascent but I agree with @CarolKing that different vaporizers can excel at different tasks some being more efficient then others. It's how us :mental: ones here end up with 6-12+ vapes.
 
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DirtyD

DirtyD

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Every single time (4 by now) I get a new vape, I inevitably roast an eighth or two in her cuz it's just so new and fun. Most recent purchase- m by dynavap. No shit time warped/lost a whole weekend. I wish that you could vape self control.... I'd start mine off about 410 F.... Now happily back? to microdosing, 3 m bowls a day maybe 4 is about as micro as we can stand it around here... Be strong. Take a few puffs and for Christ's sake give your pricey stuff time to sink in... Got this advice from good people around here. Cheers party-micro-people! D.
 
stressed

stressed

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most of us heavy pot smokers went through this. going through more weed. when i finally got that great vaping high, i never thought of smoking again.

the first thing you need is a good vaporizer. there is a ton and a half on info on this site on damn near every vape worth a damn.

i use one of the most expensive, the herbalizer and in a few days i'll have one of the cheapest, the dynavap M.

don't give up, once you start getting a beautiful high on much less weed, you'll be happy.

there are a few threads on people asking what's up. read them and it will become clear why you aren't getting as high on less weed.
 
JCat

JCat

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Agree with everyone in regards to the vaporizer really, really matters.

Sounds like you need a heavy hitter so I agree with many on the EVO. It's an absolutely great vape. There are other heavy hitting options as well though!

I can definitely understand going through 3-4x the material with the Ascent ...

If you want something that feels like a bong, the EVO is a great choice, if you prefer the joint type experience you might want to look at a Mighty.
 
herbivore21

herbivore21

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Guggsy said:
Being disabled I get through a lot of green, as it eases a lot of ailments, related to my disability. but I do not want too combust and mix with tobacco like I used to. Or have to keep buying an ounce every week as it is very expensive for the decent stuff.
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You are in a very similar position to me, and your usage when combusting is the same as mine was once.

I heartily recommend that you learn to press rosin and start using concentrates. It is going to give you longer lasting, stronger doses that you can consume more quickly. My usage went down from an ounce a week of flower to vaporizing just the resin from 7g of flower per week instead. Smoking is incredibly inefficient and wasteful of actives. Vaping flower may not provide enough lasting relief or strong enough doses for some medical needs. Inadequately strong doses may see you get stuck in a repetitive pattern of vaping bowl after bowl of flower because you aren't 'feeling enough effects'.

By the way, in my experience, the ascent is a lacklustre vape. I've never had a satisfying rip off of that vape. You may also want to try a more efficient vape with a smaller bowl. Luckily, when comparing to the ascent, that is most of them IIRC ;)

A major bonus of learning to extract resin is that you will learn how to identify the best quality bud very easily. This will also help you to get the most for your medical needs.

Check out the vapcap M if you are a joint lover by the way. Very small bowl and conserves your flower very well. It'll also let you vape concentrates should you choose to go that way :D
 
MinnBobber

MinnBobber

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@Guggsy , it's probably a combination of meh weed and meh vaporizer.
My experience is that vaping only takes about 1/4 to 1/5 of what you'd have to smoke for the same effect.

A VapCap M at about $50 IF you think you can handle the heatup technique might serve you well. It takes a certain dexterity/technique to use it properly but it might be right for you.

Vaping should take much less bud than smoking it, so keep searching for a good vape option. Our want ads here often have really nice used vapes....
 
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Guggsy

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Thank you all for responding to this post.

I think I need to find someone who has a desktop vaporizer, and give that a try first before I go investing in a desktop, and I could potentially waste £300, if it isn't giving me the effect I am looking for. I just cannot see how a desktop vaporizer is going to be any different to my ascent.

If you look at it basically all vaporizers do the same thing, heat the weed up, so you can inhale the vape off it.

The good thing is with you lot in America certain states have legalised weed, which means it is grown properly and you get the right weights. but here in the UK we still have to go to the streets, because our government will not legalise it, which means what you buy here is a bit of hit and miss, depending on the dealer. I usually stick to one good source.

I will try and find a second hand. People have mentioned the EVO vaporizer, so I might look into that one. but I don't really want to spend silly money if it isn't going to give me the effect I am looking for.
 
JCat

JCat

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Guggsy said:
Thank you all for responding to this post.

I think I need to find someone who has a desktop vaporizer, and give that a try first before I go investing in a desktop, and I could potentially waste £300, if it isn't giving me the effect I am looking for. I just cannot see how a desktop vaporizer is going to be any different to my ascent.

If you look at it basically all vaporizers do the same thing, heat the weed up, so you can inhale the vape off it.

The good thing is with you lot in America certain states have legalised weed, which means it is grown properly and you get the right weights. but here in the UK we still have to go to the streets, because our government will not legalise it, which means what you buy here is a bit of hit and miss, depending on the dealer. I usually stick to one good source.

I will try and find a second hand. People have mentioned the EVO vaporizer, so I might look into that one. but I don't really want to spend silly money if it isn't going to give me the effect I am looking for.
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They really aren't all the same. That's the misconception. Depending on the type of heat (conduction/convection/hybrid), and many other factors, the efficiency of the extraction is significantly different and the amount of waste is sufficiently different.

The VapeXhale EVO is to the Ascent what a bong is to 2nd hand smoke! (not quite but you get the idea. When I had a couple Ascents, when I would use them, I would use both because I needed at least 2 bowls. (Which is probably around .5g) With the EVO or the Grasshopper or the Mighty I can get by with .1-.3 for a session and I'm good.

But yes, I agree with you, you should find someone with a good desktop to try. (Or a heavy hitting portable)
 
seaofgreens

seaofgreens

My Mind Is Free
For some people, a car is just a car, no matter the bells and whistles.

For us, it is vapes, and it's all about the bells and whistles.

Just depends which side of the fence you're viewing things from.

That being said... @Guggsy... it is the vape.

Get one with more bells.

Or whistles. :p
 
CarolKing

CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
This is my opinion, I think your body gets used to a certain vaporizer. Sometimes you need to switch it up and use something different. Same with a cannabis strain. Your body becomes used to it and when you try something different it may work different, possibly better.

I use a few different vaporizers.
 
Farid

Farid

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When I switched from a MFLB to a SOLO (there were some others in between, but those were the two portables I used the most), I definitely noticed my usage go up. I like to pack the solo at least 1/2 way full, and that's a lot more weed than I'd use in a MFLB. Once I got used to the solo, I needed that much to feel satisfied.

When I switched to mostly using a log and now a vapcap, I find my usage has dropped closer to what it used to be with the MFLB. I definitely prefer to use a small bowl if possible. Hell, I even noticed my usage drop when I switched from a glass underdog stem to a SS underdog stem, since the SS stem holds less bud.
 
SloJimFizz

SloJimFizz

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seaofgreens said:
Get one with more balls. :p
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Fix'd :p

Seriously though, I'll take function over doo dads. Mine are all bare bones n the bells and whistles department. Less to break or fail, the better, imo. I just did research here for units that hit hard and deliver dense thick clouds. Happy with the Plenty, CV, and Vapcap. Could easily go with just one of these, but like @CarolKing said, it's good to mix it up and keep the body guessing.
@Guggsy
I hope you find a vape that helps you break combustion. It's out there, just got to take another leap. Alot of us have been right where your at, and an Oz a month isn't exactly a heavyweight .:brow:
 
DirtyD

DirtyD

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Been into vaporizers for the last four years, only 9 months ago finally stopped combustion altogether. It's all about getting a vape that fucks you up like you like. Someone else said it before but IMO it's best to have at least 2(better 3+) different types of vapes to mix it up a bit. I have 3 vapes : pulsar apx modded MP,"weecke fenix", and vapcap m. All three diff 'vape signatures', hg
 
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Guggsy

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Well I now have some different stuff again. This seems to do the trick. but that also could be I have just had a doobie an hour before. I need to compare the difference. But at the moment seems to have done the job. using my Ascent. first temp 195c then boost up to 200c. Nicely baked now:cool:
 
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