URGENT Have you vaped moldy weed?

[ladysmoke420]

Hey I recently opened up my jars and met every enthuasist's greatest nightmare.... mold.

I zoomed straight to Google and learned a lot about marijuana mold so I'm decently informed now... had a few Qs it'd be amazing if anyone had any experience with this!

1) Have any of you vaped moldy weed?
- If yes what kinda mold was it?
- I believe there's only bright white bubbles in my case which is common mold which is not super dangerous... not sure.

2) Have any of you had a similar mold-type issue. Here's description:
- They were small white spots like bubbles and I cut away the affected area. Bright white in color.
- Structure was cotton like.
- I didn't spot any wavy/darker mold.
- Mold bubbles were few and far in between. Like 1 small spot every 1 out of 4 nugs?

3) - There's 2 jars. Both affected. Previously in 1 jar I found a nug with greyish hair mold. Like a stoned mold haha... would this whole jar be infected?
- I didn't change out the weed because it was just 1 nug.
- Clipped away affected areas and isolated the affected nug in separate jar.

.... Would this whole jar be infected? I didn't change out the weed because it was just 1 nug.

Hope this thread drops more knowledge for everybody about how to avoid / how to preserve stash after mold!

Please ask if any clarify is needed... sorry if I sound a little stressed!!


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[lazylathe]

There is a thread here with the info you seek.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/herb-with-mold-and-vaporizing.4401/

I would not vaporize moldy weed at all...
Even though the temps are hot, the initial pull is usually cooler and the mold spores will enter your lungs.
NOT A GOOD IDEA!!

Just my

 

[sasNW]

Without a proper scope it's extremely difficult to tell where all the mold has spread to as which type you are dealing with. Do you have the ability to take a good picture so I can id which type of mold it is? Unless I can say with absolute certainty I can't suggest anything other then throwing it out to my patients.

You can make edibles with it depending on the mold type with a proper soak, but I can't suggest that without more info. Hell you can even make a mild hallucinogentea tea with certain molds. DONT TRY, just an interesting tidbit
Sorry just need more info before you can be %100

 

[ladysmoke420]

There is a thread here with the info you seek.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/herb-with-mold-and-vaporizing.4401/

I would not vaporize moldy weed at all...
Even though the temps are hot, the initial pull is usually cooler and the mold spores will enter your lungs.
NOT A GOOD IDEA!!

Just my

Thx for the link, I checked it out before! I thought for this specific situation it would be a good idea to make a thread since it's not a general guide but that's an awesome link for info!

Totes agree on lower temp @ first to get those flavors haha, usually. Would you recommend vaping on high temp if one were to do it then?

Without a proper scope it's extremely difficult to tell where all the mold has spread to as which type you are dealing with. Do you have the ability to take a good picture so I can id which type of mold it is? Unless I can say with absolute certainty I can't suggest anything other then throwing it out to my patients.

Sorry >< I got rid of all the mold before there were any pics. I can describe it specifically though:

- They're small white bubbles formed on the outer leaves and the tips of small pistils or whatever the good crystally parts are called
- Fluffy structure like pasty cotton when poked, and they were very small bubbles.
- Bright white
- The bud itself hasn't browned or changed in color and there's no change of smell. I'm actually not sure how ammonia smells like, but this smells sweet and the same as when I received it.
- When I blow on the bud under bright light nothing flies off it like spores etc.
- Bud was pretty dry when I jar'd it... stem snapped. I didn't burp it for 2/3 weeks, I believe.

I'm thinking it is the more common Aspergillus mold in its early stage?

If it's white it can't be Anaerobic Bacteria right?

You can make edibles with it depending on the mold type with a proper soak, but I can't suggest that without more info. Hell you can even make a mild hallucinogentea tea with certain molds. DONT TRY, just an interesting tidbit
Sorry just need more info before you can be %100

Oh no problem at all!

Haha that's very interesting info cooL!

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I'm under the assmption that the white mold occurs starts on the surface of the bud rather than internally.... am I wrong?

I know even if mold is removed there are still toxins and that's also bad for you so I'm considering using anti-oxidants if I ever vaped this stuff..

 

[lazylathe]

Thx for the link, I checked it out before! I thought for this specific situation it would be a good idea to make a thread since it's not a general guide but that's an awesome link for info!

Totes agree on lower temp @ first to get those flavors haha, usually. Would you recommend vaping on high temp if one were to do it then?

Like i said i would not vape moldy weed in any circumstance.
High temp or low temp, no thanks.

We can give you advice but you have to make the decision on what to do.
If it was my body and health i would either throw it away or do a QWISO soak and smoke the result.

 

[lwien]

Nope.

 

[sasNW]

Just to clairify IMO you should not vape or smoke it. My original post was more along the lines of turn to concentrates, edibles, or depending on the mold throw it out. I'd need to check into that a bit more, I've never run across that description of mold in my years of growing. Then again I'm no mold expert.

IMO do a little more research and figure out if it's ok to wokwith at all. And you won't be able to see all the spores with your naked eye, they are most likely flying off under the light without your knowledge. Best of luck! And risking your health isn't worth a couple buck IMO

 

[nopartofme]

I'm under the assmption that the white mold occurs starts on the surface of the bud rather than internally....

No, all you're seeing is the fruiting bodies. Most of a mold organism is always out of sight.

 

[ladysmoke420]

No, all you're seeing is the fruiting bodies. Most of a mold organism is always out of sight.

Eeek! I cracked open the nugs and there's no color change (ie brown) or ammonia/strange smell. Nothing much has changed... do you think I caught the mold early since there were just white spots and no hairy mold?

 

[Vicki]

No way I would ever vape moldy cannabis. I would be heartbroken (and so would my wallet), but I would throw it out.

 

[Snappo]

Take it from one who has had the experience - DUMP IT ALL! DO NOT SMOKE OR VAPE! Couldn't get rid of heavy lung infection for almost 2 years. Ended up invading the whole body in numerous hideous ways. Compromised immune system big time! SAY NO TO MOLD!!!

 

[nopartofme]

Eeek! I cracked open the nugs and there's no color change (ie brown) or ammonia/strange smell. Nothing much has changed... do you think I caught the mold early since there were just white spots and no hairy mold?

No, the rest of the organism is hard to see. It consists mostly of tiny hairs called hyphae. Any time you see fruiting bodies the mold is already elsewhere, like with bread.

 

[Hoof Hearted]

Totes agree on lower temp @ first to get those flavors haha, usually. Would you recommend vaping on high temp if one were to do it then?

EXCUSE ME MA'AM YOU CANT USE THAT WORD HERE. ITS NOT A LOUD. IF I SEE IT AGAIN I'LL REPORT YOU TO ONE OF THE MODERATORS.

 

[ladysmoke420]

Take it from one who has had the experience - DUMP IT ALL! DO NOT SMOKE OR VAPE! Couldn't get rid of heavy lung infection for almost 2 years. Ended up invading the whole body in numerous hideous ways. Compromised immune system big time! SAY NO TO MOLD!!!

Wow that totally sucks! If I may ask; I've read that white mold aka Aspergillus mold isn't deadly to people with regular immune systems and I'm wondering if your immune system was more susceptible to mold-related allergies?

Did you vape a lot of moldy weed? How was the mold in your case? It'd be interested to hear your story as I'm sure there's useful and valuable information!

I'm definitely not touching it. Trying to do a damage assessment as I may have to dump a fair amount...

 

[Snappo]

Wow that totally sucks! If I may ask; I've read that white mold aka Aspergillus mold isn't deadly to people with regular immune systems and I'm wondering if your immune system was more susceptible to mold-related .

I'm definitely not touching it. It wouldn't hurt to do a damage assessment as I may have to dump a fair amount...

My immune system was fine before the moldy weed fukt me up good.

 

[Vicki]

My immune system was fine before the moldy weed fukt me up good.

 

[honorface]

Smoked moldy/old weed once and it just gave me a terrible headache. For any mld by the time you actually see it it has taken over ALL the organic matter. Just like bread if your see it on one slice it is safe to say it has infected the whole loaf!

 

[smokum]

qwiso that shit up, strain the finished thru a .2 micron filter syringe... enjoy.

 

[honorface]

then take the stuff inside the syringe and snort it... best high ever.







please just no

 

[ladysmoke420]

qwiso that shit up, strain the finished thru a .2 micron filter syringe... enjoy.

Yeah I wanna try and salvage through QWISO or solvent based tek... is the Syringe/Filter necessary or can you do it regular way? Guessing it's for efficiency like a mini French Press?

Trying not to be heartbroken right now and focused on salvage but it's really hard I feel like the world's dumbest girl

 

[smokum]

My understanding is that the syringe filter at the .2 micro level removes the mold spores but not aflatoxins of certain molds....

http://skunkpharmresearch.com/salvaging-moldy-material-2/

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Aspergillus is the more serious actor when it comes to serious health effects, both from allergic reactions to its spores, invasive colonization, and from its aflatoxins, but Penicillium sp. is known to cause keratitis, external ear, respiratory and urinary tract infections, so it isn’t soft and cuddly.

Keratitis is a condition in which the eye's cornea, the front part of the eye, becomes inflamed.

Some infections may scar the cornea to limit vision. Others may result in perforation of the cornea, (an infection inside the eye), or even loss of the eye. With proper medical attention, infections can usually be successfully treated without long-term visual loss.

Yeaaaah.... would not vape moldy weed at all. Like @nopartofme said once the mold is visible it's already inside whatever it popped up from... which is why you can't just remove the little circle of mold around bread and eat it without also eating the "network" inside of the bread separate from the fruiting bodies. You can't really identify mold types just with a small magnifying glass either. It's really not worth the potential health risks, at least not for me.

 

[honorface]

Hahaha considering alcohol is a mycotoxin of yeast I do not think it would do a great job of ridding other mold toxins

 

[vap999]

Presuming you've gotten rid of the visible white bubbles (fungal colonies) and the mold was on the surface (not burrowed extensively under the surface, throughout buds), simply 'sterilize' or kill all living fungi and other microorganisms by heat (also drying the material and activating THC) -- put it in an oven say at 200˚F for say 20 minutes. Then, optionally (not really needed), shaking and blowing gently on and/or screening your material will further get rid of any loose inhalable (but dead) spores and broken dehydrated mold mycelia. And of course, seal your herb while warm and dry (don't let it adsorb moisture from the air).

This way fungal (and also parasite, bacterial and viral) inhalation infection risks are simply nonexistent!

 

[ladysmoke420]

Thanks for all the reply people. Love the community here!

Presuming you've gotten rid of the visible white bubbles (fungal colonies) and the mold was on the surface (not burrowed extensively under the surface, throughout buds), simply 'sterilize' or kill all living fungi and other microorganisms by heat (also drying the material and activating THC) -- put it in an oven say at 200˚F for say 20 minutes. Then, optionally (not really needed), shaking and blowing gently on and/or screening your material will further get rid of any loose inhalable (but dead) spores and broken dehydrated mold mycelia. And of course, seal your herb while warm and dry (don't let it adsorb moisture from the air).

This way fungal (and also parasite, bacterial and viral) inhalation infection risks are simply nonexistent!

Great plan thanks, I followed it! Ovened at @ 150C, is the bud supposed to change color (browner in this case)?
- Noticed the THC glands/crystals still sameish color so hopefully they haven't been burned up...

Have you had experience with a similar mold situation?
- I didn't find any "wavy" mold or mold inside when buds were cracked open.
- For moldy ratio: Every 3 / 4 nugs, it was one small 1mm bubble on outer leafs.

How much of the THC is wasted/released this way?
- When vaping you can zap till ~210C temps and still get vapor so hopefully not much...