Underdog Log Vapes

underdogette

underdogette

one in a billion
Company Rep
Madcap79 said:
Here we have my new 'SquareDog'! I've had the idea for a while and mentioned it to Dave. He found a beautiful piece of wood to work his magic. Thanks @underdog and @underdogette for helping a dream come true. It's even better in person. Thanks for everything as always. Time to do some training. Haha.

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Hehe, we've been calling him SpongeBob SquareDog around the shop. ;) Glad you like! That wood is gorgeous.
 
Stevenski

Stevenski

Enter the Dragon
CuckFumbustion said:
Do people use the reclaim from the Nongs? Anything anybody cares to mention about the Nylon material would be useful to me. :peace: &:sherlock:
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I have found a SSV stir tool works wonders for removing reclaim from the NonG's & it is surprising how much is in there. Cleaning mine on Sunday gave me 2 x pea sized balls of reclaim that I dust with bud & pop in a vape although it would be 1/2 a pea size if it was going back in a NonG.

Looking forward to getting my order of degummed hemp fiber as a littel bit in a NonG will ensure no crusty bits get in the reclaim.
 
CuckFumbustion

CuckFumbustion

Lo and Behold! The transformative power of Vapor.
Stevenski said:
I have found a SSV stir tool works wonders for removing reclaim from the NonG's & it is surprising how much is in there. Cleaning mine on Sunday gave me 2 x pea sized balls of reclaim that I dust with bud & pop in a vape although it would be 1/2 a pea size if it was going back in a NonG.

Looking forward to getting my order of degummed hemp fiber as a littel bit in a NonG will ensure no crusty bits get in the reclaim.
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:sherlock: Well Allright! I was a little put off at first.
It is so much darker that what I'm used too seeing and was unsure. Plus unfamiliar with the heat resistance of Nylon. It puls off easy enough. :brow:Is ISO cleaning OK?

@Madcap79 :tup:Very Impressive wood choice for the cube shaped UD. Like the black on near white contrast of the grain.
 
Aimless Ryan

Aimless Ryan

Came to read about grinders; fucked combustion
Funny. After accidentally combusting with my new pod dog for the first time yesterday, I ended up combusting two more times over the next few hours. I'm not sure what caused it, but it must have something to do with how I operate the dog. My first combustion episode happened with the skinny SS stem. With subsequent sessions, to avoid tasting combustion flavor, I set aside the SS stem and used the nylon stem. After combusting with the nylon stem, I soaked both stems in alcohol. Third combustion episode was with the skinny SS stem again.

I guess this gives me an opportunity to try learning something about the dimmer.
 
CuckFumbustion

CuckFumbustion

Lo and Behold! The transformative power of Vapor.
Decided that I want to use my UD right side up as a norm. So that means using a lot of parts and projects from the EQ drawer.:science: Thought I'd share one that'd might be of use here for some modders. It is a way of dealing with kinky whip hose between two pieces. Here is the EQ link to a post where I show how to make a double walled arch hose. Rugged and holds a curve better without pinching. I ordered two different sized food safe silicone hose to do the trick. One size that can telescope inside another one. Takes some planning effort and running water.;) But no more kinky whip hose. EVER.:rockon:
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This is between my UD and a simple (like primitive simple) water piece. Less pinching and restriction. Great for filling bags in the EQ. Solid pulls for the UD. Near black gunpowder ABV but no burnt taste.:tup: KIM this is when the UD has 6+ hrs heat up time with the full setup of a Nong of either size, an adapter, the above hose and the primitive water tool.
 
ut98ex

ut98ex

Member
Hi All. I'm obviously new to the community. I bought an underdog wild maple air core special about 3 weeks ago. I have to say that although I'm not new to vaping (I own a volcano digit and a couple of other portable vapes) I have been very pleasantly surprised with the underdog.

It definitely is a great vape and I'm happy with my purchase. Reason why I joined here though, is because I'm having an occasional small problem. My wife and I both use and share the underdog. Sometimes after a longer session (say 10 minutes or so), we noticed that the ud stops producing vapor. After experimenting and reading around the internet, I think our issue is that the ud is getting too cool and not heating up the material enough.

When we run into this issue, we usually slow down the vaping and allow more time in between hits to allow the ud to recover. This seems to work ok, but obviously I would like to not have to do that anymore.

My question is, can we get around this problem by buying a dimmer (I think its called vvps?) and turning up the heat?

If that indeed is the case, what is the maximum setting and what do you recommend turning up the heat to? Also, if we go this route, will that cause harm to the ud over the long run? Is the only other option to buy a second ud so each one of us has their own?

Thanks.
 
TeeJay1952

TeeJay1952

Well-Known Member
@ut98ex What is your power source? Try another outlet. Could the thin cables to the core have an intermittent break?
Try different cable. Suck slower, don't tamp as much (airflow is key) If you can take a couple hits without stressing heater there must be something else at play. Heater doesn't know how many hits. Are you preheating each hit? You should.
 
ut98ex

ut98ex

Member
@TeeJay1952 Thanks so much for your quick response.

I use the standard power supply that came with the ud plus the extension cord. If indeed the cable is at fault, I guess I can try to replace it, although like I mentioned if we slow down in between hits we don't have this issue. I agree that technique can also get around this issue (such as pre heating each hit), but I was hoping that I could just turn up the heat with a vvps and not have to modify our technique/timing of the hits.

Again, this is not a huge issue, I was jut curious if people had the same occasional issue and if they were able to get around it with a vvps.
 
underdog

underdog

shade-tree vapor engineer
Manufacturer
newVaper420 said:
Anyone ever find out what happened to Cookie? Hope he's ok.
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About how long would you estimate between hits when it does this?

Assuming you're just hitting it so frequently that it really is drawing the temp down and that it's not a cable or power supply issue (ie, intermittent failure) then you could definitely use a VVPS to boost the temp a bit to compensate. Not a dimmer since those can only lower temps but a VVPS would allow hotter adjustment.
 
ut98ex

ut98ex

Member
Thank you so much @underdog . Normally I would say if we wait about 1-2 minutes between hits then we never see the problem. If only one of us vapes by themselves we never see this issue (probably because a single person can't hit it as hard/fast as the two of us). Also, if the session lasts less than 5 minutes we have no problems. When I blow into the ud I can tell that the temperature is not as hot as it was before when this happens so I think it has to be that the ud is cooling too fast would you agree?

Ok, so it sounds like a VVPS is probably the way to go. Will using one at a higher temperature cause damage to my ud assuming that I turn it down/off after each session?

I also see that the one you sell on the website needs a screw driver to adjust the temperature/voltage, is there another vvps that is easier to change settings than this that you can recommend?

Again, thanks so much for the help and patience as I'm fairly new to the product, but so far except for this quirk the wife and I love this thing, what a great product!
 
underdog

underdog

shade-tree vapor engineer
Manufacturer
ut98ex said:
Thank you so much @underdog . Normally I would say if we wait about 1-2 minutes between hits then we never see the problem. If only one of us vapes by themselves we never see this issue (probably because a single person can't hit it as hard/fast as the two of us). Also, if the session lasts less than 5 minutes we have no problems. When I blow into the ud I can tell that the temperature is not as hot as it was before when this happens so I think it has to be that the ud is cooling too fast would you agree?

Ok, so it sounds like a VVPS is probably the way to go. Will using one at a higher temperature cause damage to my ud assuming that I turn it down/off after each session?

I also see that the one you sell on the website needs a screw driver to adjust the temperature/voltage, is there another vvps that is easier to change settings than this that you can recommend?

Again, thanks so much for the help and patience as I'm fairly new to the product, but so far except for this quirk the wife and I love this thing, what a great product!
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Yeah it does sound like between the two of you the heat might be getting drawn down a bit faster than it can recover.

Using a VVPS to boost the temp a bit shouldn't cause any damage, especially if you're turning it down/off after a session so no big worries there.

As far as a recommendation on a VVPS goes that one is a little tough since it's a somewhat limited (small) market but I'll see if I can give you some options. Do you have a specific budget, size constraints, etc that I should work within?
 
underdog

underdog

shade-tree vapor engineer
Manufacturer
ut98ex said:
Thanks again Underdog. No limits/constraints on the recommendation except easy to use. I would buy the one that you have on the website except I would like for it to be easier to change the voltage/temperature than using a screw driver.
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This is the least expensive model I'd recommend and should take care of your needs but it has an analog voltage meter vs a digital display which may or may not be a deal breaker for you.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000RO8J98/ref=s9_hps_bw_g23_i2

At a slightly higher price I'd recommend this one. It has a digital display and is a little nicer overall. It has a fan that kicks on any time it's circuitry hits 50c which may or may not be a deal breaker for you depending on how loud the fan is. Noise aside the fan itself is a nice feature since it might help the unit have a longer lifespan as they tend to eventually die (VVPS) from lack of cooling.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MMOC9N8/ref=s9_hps_bw_g147_i4

Beyond those two options you get into some nicer, higher end units (more pricey though) like the Voltage Keeper, bigger lab style units, miniature lab units and then battery packs.

Hope this gives you some ideas of what's out there, we can get you set up with cables for any of the options if you don't feel like a DIY project otherwise they're all pretty much plug and play.

We'll be out of town and offline starting tomorrow for the long holiday weekend and will be out of touch until late Monday but would be happy to answer any other questions you might have when we get back.

Other people might be interested in the battery pack link above too since it includes not only the 5 battery pack we've been talking about on the thread lately but the 8 battery one as well. I mentioned the mythical 8 battery pack previously but then it wasn't available for the longest time.. but it's baaaaaaack. :cool:
 
RUDE BOY

RUDE BOY

Space is the Place
Anyone else having a problem getting onto the Underdog website? when I try I keep getting the message:

ERROR-YOU NEED DOMDocument INSTALLED TO USE VQMod.
(I'm computer illiterate and don't have a clue as to what this means)

tried other links here on FC and searching on google to other webpages and my browser seems to be working, but won't connect to UDs site.

Is it the site or something wrong on my end?
 
underdogette

underdogette

one in a billion
Company Rep
RUDE BOY said:
Anyone else having a problem getting onto the Underdog website? when I try I keep getting the message:

ERROR-YOU NEED DOMDocument INSTALLED TO USE VQMod.

tried other links here on FC and searching on google to other webpages and my browser seems to be working, but won't connect to UDs site.

Is it the site or something wrong on my end?
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Should be back up now! Our host server was rebooting after some updates.
 
underdogette

underdogette

one in a billion
Company Rep
brandonflav said:
SpongeBob SquareDog! That gave me a good laugh. That dog looks soooo awesome; and agreed, that wood is absolutely stunning.
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Haha, glad I'm not the only one who was giggling about it. :)

Heya folks... looks like we'll be doing some more server work on and off over the weekend while we're out of town. So the website will be down periodically. Stay tuned- thanks!
 
Madcap79

Madcap79

Jack of all trades, master of none.
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