Underdog Log Vapes

[Stevenski]

be sure to get some stainless tips with the silicone so you can make a glass DD with stainless tip stems. those are my favorite stems out of all of them, stainless stem included.

and treat yourself with an aromatherapy cup, beeswax, and essential oil.

I think that is a pretty good idea as well. I will certainly be reviewing my basket before finalizing my purchase to ensure ownership is as painless as possible.

Get in touch with Underdogette for a suggestion on an inexpensive VVPS option if you're still looking.

I have an email I will be responding to on that exact subject

@Stevenski I am not totally sure about what type of power you would need being down under, but those Tattoo VVPS's that are relatively cheap get the job done wonderfully if they are compatible. I doubt your newer dog will need it bumped up, but I like having a range of value and since I have different dogs (some + Mini's run cooler) I get the value from it. But I still use the standard wall warts all the time so the Aussie equivalent to a standard wallwart would probably be a-ok.

All sizes are great for water, it is way too tough and I go through phases myself! When I got it, I was destroying it with the shorty 14mm GonG. But, now, I typically use the 18mm NonG one hitters with water. And, actually believe it or not, I think I end up using DD more often than water nowadays, which is totally the opposite from when I started. Nothing like just chilling in bed with a bunch of loaded up stems, I worry bout spilling a water piece lying down medicated with my computer and stuff lol. I typically still use the one hitter style stems, the SS ones and a handful of wooden ones from Ed. I have a handful of straight up never used long 14mm GonGs that I am considering for use for travel if I go out of the country later this year. Actually forgot I had them until a bit earlier today lol.

But right now, I have the Amboyna running on my counter and I'm just filling up the NonGs, sticking it in my Hydratube, and just clearing them in a go. Little snaps get me wrecked though. I will have to share later sometime, but I have been documenting my usage, as I was curious and I wanted to have to "check" myself so to speak. The UD excels so much in terms of efficiency! I am only 5 days in, but there was a day that I just used the UD basically, and used less product overall!

Also, I fully expect my usage to change, that's the beauty of the dog, variety! JoDa worked me up a 14mm piece and by golly it looks fantastic from the few pics I saw, with a matching 14mm carbed GonG, I cannot wait til they get here and I can put them to use (and share with all of you!)

Bases on my correspondence I will be running a standard power supply & dimmer to see how things go. If I need more temp control I will address it once I have become acquainted with UD . Where my dilemma is now is choosing a new glass piece or two to pair with the UD. I have my eye on a couple of 14mm bongs & I will buy new Air 14mm stem as I broke my 18mm Gong. Strange as I was always looking at more 18mm glass but my intention is to have a nice piece paired to each vape I use. I am trying to avoid the JoDa thread as that is full of wallet crippling designs.

I am thinking a Wicked Sands beaker like below may be a good partner for the UD? Timeless design with quality build & due to the exchange rate I will only look at glass for sale in Australia as this beaker is $360AU locally or $320-350US ($450-500AU) + at least $50US shipping on top. I also have my eyes on either a cheap $100 10" HVY tube or beaker or a slightly cheaper Blaze one as a stop gap until I justify the funds for a premium bong (I would consider something like below a premium bong but I come from the land of hosepipe stems). It works with my twisted logic as that way I can justify two new glass purchases.

I am getting older & would prefer fewer nicer pieces paired with a classy vape or two. I could easily go & purchase a dozen DHGate pieces & if I was 20 again I probably would do that but how much glass does a man actually need?

 

[woolspinner]

Hey everyone, the lavender oil in my aromatherapy cup turned from clear to a blue color. I remember seeing small specks of blue in the beginning and then 3 days later it's completely blue. Anyone know what's going on? I leave it on in the living room, and there's not much dust/particles floating around there.

Mine did too. I am happy about it, though, because I use beeswax as well, so there is residual wax left and now I can discern between the cup for lavender and the cup for rosemary.

 

[medically420]

Mine did too. I am happy about it, though, because I use beeswax as well, so there is residual wax left and now I can discern between the cup for lavender and the cup for rosemary.

Not sure if it's just me, but the smell of lavender oil isn't as potent as before. Is there anything else you started doing when it started turning blue? Now I'm not too sure on how much beeswax or oil to put in.

 

[woolspinner]

Not sure if it's just me, but the smell of lavender oil isn't as potent as before. Is there anything else you started doing when it started turning blue? Now I'm not too sure on how much beeswax or oil to put in.

Nope. I notice the rosemary is more potent, but I do not know if the lavender is less so. I just guessed at how much beeswax, not much. And usually 3-5 drops of oil.

 

[HellsWindStaff]

I got some Camphor Oil in a cup with beeswax that is kinda greenish. Felt like when it darkened up a lot I needed to add more oil to smell. So I just do that periodially

Here my preferred waterintake method. Couldn't clear cause I don't have 3 arms, those NonGs get in there pretty good, even more so since I'm resting it on the dog.

@Stevenski I think you should get whatever piece you feel you like the most They all pair well with the dog! Just make sure you have a reducer if its 18, or an adapter if its male. Versatility!

That piece is sick though!

 

[Florence]

I'm getting so excited! Having one turned to look like a 40mm Grenade. Was worried it would look overly phallic lol, but I think its coming along great. Way more excited for this than I was for my Evo & way happy with the customer service.

 

[optiato]

I'm sorry, I know this has likely been covered, but I can't find it. Just a couple quick questions if I may.

How far in should be screens be? It seems they're adjustable, but how close to the tip is too close and how far is too far?

It seems with the nylon stems you load the whole "bowl" fully. And I believe you need to leave space for the heating element on the glass DD, so you don't fill them all the way? Is there a way to know how full is too full, or just something you get used to? I imagine the depth is adjustable with the o-ring on the air cores...

 

[Buildozer]

How far in should be screens be? It seems they're adjustable, but how close to the tip is too close and how far is too far?

It seems with the nylon stems you load the whole "bowl" fully. And I believe you need to leave space for the heating element on the glass DD, so you don't fill them all the way? Is there a way to know how full is too full, or just something you get used to? I imagine the depth is adjustable with the o-ring on the air cores...

The best advice I can give is to just experiment and get to know your UD and different stems.. There is no set rule about where to put the screens or how to use these vapes.. Put them as close or as far as you like, if it gets you the results you're going for.. I'd say, too full = too much restriction, and not full enough = weak results.

If it seems like you're burning your material you can try backing the screen off, loading less herb, grinding more coarse, increasing draw speed, and or adding one of the extension cords UD offers.. If you aren't getting the material as dark as you'd like, try any one or any combination of the exact opposite.. Having a VVPS or Inline Dimmer would make the task of customizing your experience a lot easier, but IMO before you get into that, it's good to know and be familiar w/ the different ways to manipulate your UD w/ a fixed voltage too it will help when trying to figure out how to treat different load sizes and grind types in the different stems (also w/ dry ripping vs. using a bubbler or bong) to suit the way you like to use it.. You just have to try things out

 

[optiato]

Buildozer,
Thank you for taking the time to reply! I've used my fair share of vapes, but for one reason or another never got a log (don't ask me, I don't know). I was looking around at different logs and of course came across the enano. It seems they have a pick/tool that shows where the screen should be and how deep the material should be to not touch a screen at the top of the heater tube thing. So that's where my question is how full is too full comes from. If I filled it all the way, the stem wouldn't go over the heater, too little and they'd be touching the top of the heater? (Ok, I looked more and it looks like the screen for the heater is located down the heater tube a bit, which makes sense to fit the SS tips in) So really as long as the stem is fitting over the heater enough to hold it in place, it's not too full...? Is it right to fill the SS steel tip to the edge. Maybe "right" isn't the right word.. does it hurt anything to fill it to the end? Is it going to combust on the heater? I read somewhere on one of them that's a risk, but not sure how the UD is designed in regards to that.

I thought about getting the VVPS, but really don't want to unless I have to, that's part of why I like the UD so much is that it just works (with some technique).

Sorry for all the questions. I should have mine in a few days so naturally it's all I can think about right now.

 

[Buildozer]

Buildozer,
Thank you for taking the time to reply! I've used my fair share of vapes, but for one reason or another never got a log (don't ask me, I don't know). I was looking around at different logs and of course came across the enano. It seems they have a pick/tool that shows where the screen should be and how deep the material should be to not touch a screen at the top of the heater tube thing. So that's where my question is how full is too full comes from. If I filled it all the way, the stem wouldn't go over the heater, too little and they'd be touching the top of the heater? (Ok, I looked more and it looks like the screen for the heater is located down the heater tube a bit, which makes sense to fit the SS tips in) So really as long as the stem is fitting over the heater enough to hold it in place, it's not too full...? Is it right to fill the SS steel tip to the edge. Maybe "right" isn't the right word.. does it hurt anything to fill it to the end? Is it going to combust on the heater? I read somewhere on one of them that's a risk, but not sure how the UD is designed in regards to that.

I thought about getting the VVPS, but really don't want to unless I have to, that's part of why I like the UD so much is that it just works (with some technique).

Sorry for all the questions. I should have mine in a few days so naturally it's all I can think about right now.

You're just gonna have to wait until you can try it and see for yourself.. everyone's got different preferences.. Just do what you have to do to get the experience you want It'll be easier to offer advice after you have one in your hands.. After you have tried a few different approaches, you can better see how things work for you w/ your setup, and go from there..

 

[underdogette]

Heya UDs, looks like we're waiting on our order of heater cartridges which won't be here until mid February. We really didn't expect to sell out this many Holiday Vapes. A nice problem to have, that's for sure, but looks like we're in for a longer wait than we thought. We will keep good on our promise to rain check the pricing for everyone who still wants to get one.

Thanks so much for your patience!

eta: We have a few standard cores with cartridges already installed set aside for custom vapes.

 

[Florence]

Got a completed pic. Truly amazed! They somehow managed to capture the essence of a 40mm grenade while making a peaceful wooden medication device. hah. Amazing customer service, rapid replies. I really don't know how they do it. They must have dozens of clones of Underdogette running around or something.

 

[Snappo]

Got a completed pic. Truly amazed! They somehow managed to capture the essence of a 40mm grenade while making a peaceful wooden medication device. hah. Amazing customer service, rapid replies. I really don't know how they do it. They must have dozens of clones of Underdogette running around or something.

Whoah!!! A 45 caliber hollow-point!!!!! Yet another Underdog BULLSEYE!!!

Ode to the 2nd Amendment - May we never need to unholster our defenses!

 

[medically420]

That is beautiful, I want one! Function and form

 

[Florence]

I've been thinking about battery sources to power the Underdog when I receive it since I want to use it on the go often. I know it can run off 18650's and I've seen battery cases like the one link on UD's site.

however. That method isn't really "good enough" for what I am wanting. I'm interested to know if this will work.

I want to get a USB to 2.1mm adapter, they can be had for 2-5$ online. Then use something like a 26,000 MAH Anker battery offered on Amazon for $50 which features the same batteries (I believe) however, has 8 of them and obviously, a much longer potential runtime in a better more useful battery design (charge phone while running vape)

I don't know what the Amp requirements and all that really are with the UD. I know the Anker uses a "IQ Charge" technology that adjusts from 1-2 amps depending on device & not sure how that will function with a dog.

It would be awesome if it could work, and I am actually willing to just order it all considering its cheap price and other usefulness, just to try it out.

Thanks all.

 

[underdog]

I've been thinking about battery sources to power the Underdog when I receive it since I want to use it on the go often. I know it can run off 18650's and I've seen battery cases like the one link on UD's site.

however. That method isn't really "good enough" for what I am wanting. I'm interested to know if this will work.

I want to get a USB to 2.1mm adapter, they can be had for 2-5$ online. Then use something like a 26,000 MAH Anker battery offered on Amazon for $50 which features the same batteries (I believe) however, has 8 of them and obviously, a much longer potential runtime in a better more useful battery design (charge phone while running vape)

I don't know what the Amp requirements and all that really are with the UD. I know the Anker uses a "IQ Charge" technology that adjusts from 1-2 amps depending on device & not sure how that will function with a dog.

It would be awesome if it could work, and I am actually willing to just order it all considering its cheap price and other usefulness, just to try it out.

Thanks all.

Unfortunately it won't work, you'll need to find a battery pack that outputs 12v (ie, not USB output) not the 5v that USB is limited to.

 

[Florence]

What about with a voltage boost converter to step up the 5v to 12v using capacitors? Those can be had for under five bucks but idk about the load the UDs have. Ever hear of anyone trying it with a stepup?

Something like this. How many amps does the UD need to function propper?

That linked one gives the specs at 1.2 amp in (battery from anker can support 2amp)

INPUT 5V 1.2A; OUTPUT 12V 400MA

So the ma would be higher at 2amp obvi. But what's the UD need? Or I guess, what's the lowest Milliamps that the UD can safely, effectively run on if the voltage can be boosted to a stable 12v.

 

[Madcap79]

@Florence

1 amp. 2 preferred, I believe.

But I would wait for official word from @underdog or @underdogette

 

[Florence]

Hmm. Would be prb just shy of an amp after conversion if starting with 2amps pre stepup

Nvm. Found a few 23,000+ mah battery packs that have 12v outputs included.

Though I guess the q would still be worth answering for people with normal battery packs.

 

[StonerSloth]

What about with a voltage boost converter to step up the 5v to 12v using capacitors? Those can be had for under five bucks but idk about the load the UDs have. Ever hear of anyone trying it with a stepup?

Something like this. How many amps does the UD need to function propper?

That linked one gives the specs at 1.2 amp in (battery from anker can support 2amp)

INPUT 5V 1.2A; OUTPUT 12V 400MA

So the ma would be higher at 2amp obvi. But what's the UD need?

My Dog pulls 0.55 to 0.6 A at 12-13 V (7-8 W.)

I have used boost converters, buck converters, and buck/boost modules. They all work fine as long as it will output enough current. Something like this will work http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GWCC6S4/

Although the DIY power bank with built-in voltage adjustment up to 13 V and replaceable 18650's is hard to beat for portability.

 

[underdog]

What about with a voltage boost converter to step up the 5v to 12v using capacitors? Those can be had for under five bucks but idk about the load the UDs have. Ever hear of anyone trying it with a stepup?

Something like this. How many amps does the UD need to function propper?

That linked one gives the specs at 1.2 amp in (battery from anker can support 2amp)

INPUT 5V 1.2A; OUTPUT 12V 400MA

So the ma would be higher at 2amp obvi. But what's the UD need? Or I guess, what's the lowest Milliamps that the UD can safely, effectively run on if the voltage can be boosted to a stable 12v.

That board won't output enough power, you'll need 12V and 1A to drive the UD (allowing for efficiency losses, etc) and that can only put out 400ma @ 12v so no dice. The specs for standard USB aren't high enough to meet the power requirements of an UD and it's hard to find things that are built outside of the official specs.

From what I hear Anker makes a model similar to the one you originally posted that does output 12v so that would probably be your best bet.

PS> A buck/boost board like @StonerSloth linked to would work (not via USB input though, again not enough power) and is basically what is inside the battery packs with variable output.

 

[Florence]

Yea, I found the anker model. Its 80$ for 20,000 mah and has 12v port and multiple USB ports. Nice form factor, build quality etc. But non replaceable.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005NGLTZQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1454038832&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=anker+12v&dpPl=1&dpID=41wApC+US8L&ref=plSrch

@StonerSloth u have a link for this diy battery case?

Edit: Google's my friend on that one. Found some diy kits. Unless u where just talking about the 4 18650 pack that UD links to on eBay. Found a few that hold 6+. If I get some 3,000mah 18650's that should get the capacity I want. Possibilities!

Thanks for the info! Couldnt really find much searching on the topic.

 

[HellsWindStaff]

Yea, I found the anker model. Its 80$ for 20,000 mah and has 12v port and multiple USB ports. Gunna order it.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005NGLTZQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1454038832&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=anker+12v&dpPl=1&dpID=41wApC+US8L&ref=plSrch

@StonerSloth u have a link for this diy battery case?

Edit: Google's my friend on that one. Found some diy kits. Unless u where just talking about the 4 18650 pack that UD links to on eBay. Found a few that hold 6+. If I get some 3,000mah 18650's that should get the capacity I want. Possibilities!

Thanks for the info! Couldnt really find much searching on the topic.

Color me intrigued...keep us updated I will be following

Beautiful dog man! What's the wood? A true "shot" through the heart

Welcome to the pack!

 

[Florence]

Beautiful dog man! What's the wood? A true "shot" through the heart

Pacific Madrone. Native to my area so that's nice.

 

[HellsWindStaff]

Madrone is such a beautiful and versatile wood and literally every time I see it I love it and don't recognize it as Madrone lol. Aweomse stuff!