Tornado by Vestratto

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I'm getting great results with a low and slow heat method. Big clouds and smooth. I use a Ronxs/Cadrim or Blazer Firefox turned down low. Probably a 50 second heatup on average. I mostly heat the mid oven but also spend a few seconds at a time directly torching the atomizer during the heatup.

 

[TigoleBitties]

Now that I'm heating exclusively around the airholes with the Wand, my recipe is this:

• 8 flash count to pre-heat the Tornado from cold then wait 10sec for heat distribution
• 17 flash count should heat to just before click and great flavor. Click may happen while drawing
• 8 flash count for any re-heats. I make sure no vapor is being produced before any re-heats

 

[AndyO]

In my experience Tornado likes fierce and short, not long and slow. I had to unlearn my Anvil habits

I find it too difficult to be precise with a quick heat up. If you use a bigger flame and a more sudden blast, your clicks and the visual indicator of the vapor puff all kind of happen at once, which makes it a bit of a crap shoot as to how roasted it is.

 

[Roffa]

I find it too difficult to be precise with a quick heat up. If you use a bigger flame and a more sudden blast, your clicks and the visual indicator of the vapor puff all kind of happen at once, which makes it a bit of a crap shoot as to how roasted it is.

I count out at about 3 seconds and don't mind any clicks. Upstream someone is cooking their herb for 50 seconds. I was in the long and slow camp before, but not anymore once I tried blasting. Changed the game. I wonder what is the precision you are trying to achieve.

 

[SlickHenry]

Anyone know of any UK sellers for this vape? The price point probably means being stung with customs fees if ordering direct and shipping to the UK.

 

[CreatureGlass]

The eagle has landed! Tornado screens are a little bit behind, but my Anvil is squeaky clean internally ready to test out the Forge. The case and the Forge itself look and feel real nice in the hand. Edit: After handling the Forge a little more, the plastic does feel slightly flimsy actually, but nothing horrible.


In response to past couple posts, not Tornado related:
From my experience, very subtle differences in technique can be the difference between 2 identical looking roasts with vastly different flavors out of the Anvil. At its best, it's really a good terpy taste IMO. It's one of only ~3 vapes in my collection that I consider capable of killing a bowl in one hit with great flavor. Probably in 3rd place for flavor out of those 3, but not by far, and it more than makes up for it in other areas. I'm expecting the Forge to make dialing it in much easier and more consistent, maybe even bump it out of third place.

What are the others that are ahead in flavour in your opinion?

Anyone know of any UK sellers for this vape? The price point probably means being stung with customs fees if ordering direct and shipping to the UK.

Unfortunately I haven't found any yet but if you order from Canada the tax threshold is just over the allowance so I'm hoping it won't be much in tax. Better yet if you have any relatives or friends there get it sent to them and then send them the money to ship it you as a gift. Like I say it's only just over the tax allowance so hopefully not that much to pay although I have a funny feeling when it goes over they don't charge you for the amount it's over by they charge you for the whole price. Also medical devices are exempt from import tax I think so you might be a le to get round it like that as its a device for vaping cannabis which is a legal medicinal product lol.

 

[hotmeals]

What are the others that are ahead in flavour in your opinion?

I was thinking of the Phase3 ZX and the TRWW Quartz Cap Mini when I wrote that post. After more time with it, I would rank the Tornado up there above the Anvil as well. All of this is only considering one hitter style usage, session style is a very different experience.

 

[Vaporfly]

For those of you who like full extraction and use the wand. What is your routine? For reference my wand has the lip issue so I can’t insert from
The front. I tried one method of inserting it in reverse and letting it rest on the lip. This did work but it inserts the nado very deep and you can come close to combustion if you don’t pull out at the first click. I tried adding cork but maybe my piece was too thick cause the click happened n and abv was quite light - whereas in the lip you could see vapor and hear a fizz. Maybe I stick to the reverse lip method? Anyways curious on your wand methods

 

[Roffa]

For those of you who like full extraction and use the wand. What is your routine? For reference my wand has the lip issue so I can’t insert from
The front. I tried one method of inserting it in reverse and letting it rest on the lip. This did work but it inserts the nado very deep and you can come close to combustion if you don’t pull out at the first click. I tried adding cork but maybe my piece was too thick cause the click happened n and abv was quite light - whereas in the lip you could see vapor and hear a fizz. Maybe I stick to the reverse lip method? Anyways curious on your wand methods

[there's also a thread dedicated to Tornado heating] I set my wand to 320 C, which gives 25 clicks. I preheat with the oven in for the full 25 clicks. Then I unscrew the oven, cram in a nug of flower, and heat with the wand a second time, while drawing. After a few seconds, you'll hear the click, but you'll feel vapor temp rising and that gives you an indication too.

Other than that: 25 seconds from cold, with the oven screwed in, gets me to click after drawing. When the device is hot, I heat for a few flashes, then I hit it and usually that gets me to first click. If I want the vapor to me a bit more intense, I'll heat for 2 seconds more.

Mostly what I want is to reduce the time the herb cooks.

 

[CreatureGlass]

Nice work on this @ScruffyWoofers - sorry if I missed the answer to this in the midst of all the rubbish, but how is it that this works with 8mm and 9mm stems? Or are the 8mm and 9mm 2 different options?

Are you providing a few extra o-rings when you sell them, or will I need to find them myself?

And I guess you've designed this to be super tight so it doesn't wobble or anything, right?

Thanks man, this is a really cool development.

I'll be hitting you up for one of these. What size is the fittng that goes into a stem on your adapter as I was going to make some glass stems for the vestratto Tornado and would like to do some wooden ones if I ever get round to bodging a cheap wood lathe together. So probably just glass. As I don't own any of these type of devices until this one arrives I don't know the usual stem fitting sizes of most devices like this, so I was just going to make a few different shapes and styles with just 14mm tapered joints so the pipe adapter slots straight in. The obvious problem with that is it's tapered so if it's not tilted upwards slightly or in a pipe style stem then it'll fall straight to the floor so one of these would sort that out. Are the usual stems 10mm in diameter then as you have both 9 and 8 mm ones.

 

[Duba]

it's time to take stock. Mine is without appeal : the Tornado is the vaporizer of the year 2024.
It proudly dethrones the Anvil, which has reigned supreme at home since 2022.
The king is dead, long live the king!

 

[Greenleaf88]

So I’m waiting for the next drop but I have a quick question should I get a USA along with the tornado and build a custom stem or just attach it on my anvil body with the xl mouthpiece.

Does it have adjustable airflow sry if it was answered I have the pg stem and integrated as well. Or it doesn’t make a difference.

I’m so pumped for this one I never bought the new core therma dura I’ve been rocking the og gold one I guess along with the founder for hash

 

[Roffa]

So I’m waiting for the next drop but I have a quick question should I get a USA along with the tornado and build a custom stem or just attach it on my anvil body with the xl mouthpiece.

Does it have adjustable airflow sry if it was answered I have the pg stem and integrated as well. Or it doesn’t make a difference.

I’m so pumped for this one I never bought the new core therma dura I’ve been rocking the og gold one I guess along with the founder for hash

OG stem fits, I popped on the oven unit without an adapter. I have the XL mouthpiece. Excellent that way, although I'm now looking at stem options. No customizable airflow. Tornado has a simple/not simple construction

 

[TigoleBitties]

I'm still liking this slightly modified Hammer pipe. I cut a silicone piece to cradle an 18/14 reducer now and the pipe is already glass lined. The carb is great for controlling airflow and dialing down the temps with some fresh air, especially for the dense vapor the Tornado can produce.

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[eyevape]

Look what’s in the mail today I finally found the perfect stem for my Tornado. It only took me 2-3 minutes with a small disk sander to grind it down to size. I removed about 3.7mm of material, this went way easier than I thought. I installed two spirals like I have in my Anvil, this provides enough cooling for my needs. Just had a bowl with it and I must say it’s freakin perfect And it also finally feels perfect, I love the weight and the 100% wiggle free fit. I also have to mention the new polished ss heat shield, this thing is awesome. I couldn’t resist ordering a second one for my Anvil and I’m happy I did.

I’m sure I’ll be interested when Vestratto put out their Tornado stem. But in the meantime I’ll be missing nothing, except a Tornado utility case. The case is an absolute essential.

https://imgur.com/a/Dzp0t6I

 

[CreatureGlass]

I have the same issue...pretty sure just different production models...I have an older one and have ordered a second one to test.

I'm pretty sure they sell a kit with a riser and a glass tube i think the tube that's inserted from the kit can also be adjusted to different levels inside the coil zone. I could be wrong about the glass bit but there's definitely a kit. Try a headship that sells the Ispire wand, they should have the kits.

 

[Tji89]

Finally got my tornado as well as new stem from high artisan to pair with it. Also thank you @ScruffyWoofers for making the adapter.

Haven't tried it yet as I'm on a break for a few weeks. Might try som CBD in it later

https://imgur.com/a/SPB7GKi

 

[DaBouse]

Hey yall, sorry if this isn’t the right thread for this. I am strongly considering the tornado as my next pickup. For me the tempest borders on perfect. Only downsides for me is the relatively small bowl size and it could be slightly better on flavor.

All the tornado owners say this thing really punches. Which is great because I’m looking for a heavy hitter with a larger bowl. I’ve also heard that it’s not the best device in terms of flavor, so it is what it is on that one.

My concerns are it looks like it’s a bit difficult to heat properly with the wand? Also I see USA adapters on the vestratto website. Whats going on with those? It’s a 14mm connection so not sure why an adapter would be necessary.

 

[Alligator427]

Hey yall, sorry if this isn’t the right thread for this. I am strongly considering the tornado as my next pickup. For me the tempest borders on perfect. Only downsides for me is the relatively small bowl size and it could be slightly better on flavor.

All the tornado owners say this thing really punches. Which is great because I’m looking for a heavy hitter with a larger bowl. I’ve also heard that it’s not the best device in terms of flavor, so it is what it is on that one.

My concerns are it looks like it’s a bit difficult to heat properly with the wand? Also I see USA adapters on the vestratto website. Whats going on with those? It’s a 14mm connection so not sure why an adapter would be necessary.

I had some issue with the wand but some people here use it without problem. Flavor could be nice, depend how you heat your tornado.
If you want something that work well with the wand with a larger bowl than the tempest, there is the TA3 or 4 from phatpigie. Contact them to know when he will restock.

 

[TigoleBitties]

Hey yall, sorry if this isn’t the right thread for this. I am strongly considering the tornado as my next pickup. For me the tempest borders on perfect. Only downsides for me is the relatively small bowl size and it could be slightly better on flavor.

All the tornado owners say this thing really punches. Which is great because I’m looking for a heavy hitter with a larger bowl. I’ve also heard that it’s not the best device in terms of flavor, so it is what it is on that one.

It does have a big bowl around 0.2g and the rumors about lack of flavor are unfounded imo. You can get great flavor from it and I use the Wand exclusively. Scroll back a page or two for some tips. There's also a thread about heating tips for the Tornado.

My concerns are it looks like it’s a bit difficult to heat properly with the wand? Also I see USA adapters on the vestratto website. Whats going on with those? It’s a 14mm connection so not sure why an adapter would be necessary.

Yes, it comes with a 14mm connector and the USA adapters are only for the Anvil afaik. Right now there are only 3rd party adapters from @ScruffyWoofers for connecting the Tornado to standard 8 or 9mm stems and I also believe the OG Anvil stem will work.

It's super easy to get good results with the Wand and it's probably the fastest, heavy hitting tip to heat with the Wand. Clicks at around 21sec.

 

[hotmeals]

Sometimes I catch myself thinking about what a great dab that just was, except it was really a Tornado bowl

 

[DaBouse]

It does have a big bowl around 0.2g and the rumors about lack of flavor are unfounded imo. You can get great flavor from it and I use the Wand exclusively. Scroll back a page or two for some tips. There's also a thread about heating tips for the Tornado.

Yes, it comes with a 14mm connector and the USA adapters are only for the Anvil afaik. Right now there are only 3rd party adapters from @ScruffyWoofers for connecting the Tornado to standard 8 or 9mm stems and I also believe the OG Anvil stem will work.

It's super easy to get good results with the Wand and it's probably the fastest, heavy hitting tip to heat with the Wand. Clicks at around 21sec.

Do you utilize one of these stems or are you a WPA user? Don’t get me wrong, the tempest stem is impressive. But using it in a WPA absolutely blew me away going from needing 3-4 semi harsh tokes to a nice OHE with the orb.

 

[TedJones]

stems or are you a WPA

It is nice with a good stem but personally I think it shines on the wpa more so

 

[TigoleBitties]

Do you utilize one of these stems or are you a WPA user? Don’t get me wrong, the tempest stem is impressive. But using it in a WPA absolutely blew me away going from needing 3-4 semi harsh tokes to a nice OHE with the orb.

As there's still no official stem from Vestratto for it I think most use the WPA, myself included. Lately I've been enjoying it on dry glass pieces.

One thing about the Tornado is that it's very easy to get a OHE but the tradeoff is taste. I think this is true for most vapes. Especially if you're dealing with bigger bowls like the Tornado, I personally like getting 2-3 big tasty hits to finish a bowl rather than trying crush 0.2g in one go and having it taste too roasted.

What you can also do is not fill the bowl completely, say 0.1-0.15g and a OHE can be achieved at a lower, tastier temp if that's what you're after.

 

[CreatureGlass]

What size adapter has the most stem options. I presume it's whatever size fits a DV stem so does anyone know what size is the ID of a DV stem & / or advise on stems and the best size adapter to get for the Tornado?