Thinning down Pure Gold

[Haywood]

I've been delighted with Pure Gold as my super stealth & easy travel medication. I'm also an e-cig user, so I'm familiar with all manner of atty's, carto's, drip tips, and henway's. In fact, after much experimenting, I've found a couple of carto's that I really love; they don't leak, they survive multiple trips in airplanes and through TSA, they hold around one mL, which is about 1.0 gram of PG, plenty to last me for a multiday, multicity business trip without refilling or carrying an extra PG ampule. They work fine with as small a PG load as 0.25g, with almost zero waste (maybe 0.05g). I really like this setup. When I'm home, if I want a 10% boost in taste, I'll use one of my ceramic based TET devices, but truth be known, using the carto on a VV spinner battery is so easy, and works so well, that I rarely bother anymore. Just talking about PG here, not the other myriad wonderful, flavorful

However, , there's only one carto that works well with the super thick Pure Gold. And although I like it, there's this other carto that I'd prefer to use with Pure Gold. It has a less restrictive draw, a nicer mouthpiece, and it's much sturdier, but it just doesn't work well with that thick a liquid. Now I'm used to mixing my different e-juices, to get the flavor I like, and I know about the difference in thickness between the VG and PG based e-juices (the PG e-juice is NOT a reference to Pure Gold, rather it's a reference to Propylene Glycol).

So I was wondering if I could mix the PG (Pure Gold) with something else to make it a little thinner. But I don't have much of a clue as to what to mix it with. I have no idea what Pure Gold is soluble in. Water? Propylene Glycol? 95% Ethanol? Any suggestions or thoughts would be much appreciated. (As I hate to waste $expensive$ Pure Gold trying to figure it out by experimentation, which is why I thought I'd ask first).

 

[lesvape]

Have you tried the Vaped Globe atomizer? It's suppose to be for wax and oils and works on standard EGO threading. It is a little larger, but really works nicely. Not sure if it would be passable on carry on, but checked luggage I am sure you can take it.

That said I think VG(vegetable glycerin) may work better than PG, at least that's what the guys at my local Vapor store have told me. But, not sure how much VG to use or if it even would work or not.

 

[nopartofme]

The EJMix glycerine product made by the Liquidizer folks (FC thread) might be worth looking into.

EJmix – One of our proudest achievements is perfecting the formula for EJmix, a blend of PG and PEG 400 (as well as PEG300 and PEG200) for the ideal molecular weight and solubility for a permanent stable emulsion of natural herbal oils. Herbal oils and EJmix will never separate out. We recommend everyone begin with concentrated mixtures of 70:30 to 50:50 oil to EJmix blends to create one-hit knock-out punches of vapor, and only then progressively dilute according to their preferred method of use.

 

[Haywood]

Have you tried the Vaped Globe atomizer? It's suppose to be for wax and oils and works on standard EGO threading. It is a little larger, but really works nicely. Not sure if it would be passable on carry on, but checked luggage I am sure you can take it.

That said I think VG(vegetable glycerin) may work better than PG, at least that's what the guys at my local Vapor store have told me. But, not sure how much VG to use or if it even would work or not.

The Vaped globe doesn't seem at all suitable for my particular needs, if I'm remembering it correctly. I need to be able to travel with it, and it not only doesn't look anything like an e-cig, it only holds a couple of hits, which really must be finished before putting it away, and I would have to carry Pure Gold and fill it every time I wanted to use it. Plus it's fragile and I don't always have checked luggage, just carry on. If I were going to go that route, I'd just bring one of my TET DART cores.

My current e-juice mix is 70%PG/30%VG. Some feel that the more VG, the healthier the mix, but that's not borne out by any science (and there was just a report released noting that PG seems to significantly reduce colds and flu; go figure). Besides that, pure VG base is almost as thick as Pure Gold itself, and would buy me little. The way to go, from my experience with e-cigs, would be to mix some PG (glycol) in with the PG (Pure Gold), not VG...

The EJMix glycerine product made by the Liquidizer folks (FC thread) might be worth looking into.

Thanks for the pointer, it sounds like what I'm looking for, or at least a start; I'll check it out after I send this message.

 

[lesvape]

I am really not sure what the best would be, but I am going based on what some the folks at my local vapor shop where telling me customers had luck with. Maybe I am mistaken and it was PG, but I tried some ABV with VG and worked decently. But, if you don't mind me asking what cartos are you using, because I tried one of the replaceable models, where you screw it off to change the atty or fill it up, and it wasn't that good, part of the reason I am trying out the Globe, which I enjoy using. Good luck.

 

[Haywood]

... if you don't mind me asking what cartos are you using, because I tried one of the replaceable models, where you screw it off to change the atty or fill it up, and it wasn't that good, part of the reason I am trying out the Globe, which I enjoy using. Good luck.

For Pure Gold, I have been using the GotVapes Sapphire v4 carto with great success. It's a disposable (you can't replace or repair the coil), but mine have each worked for many, many grams of PG without needing replacement. Rather than repost the pictures and what I said about it previously here, I'll just provide a link:

A link

Haywood

 

[lesvape]

The Sapphire is the bud carts, right? Yeah I have seen those before. I wanted to buy one, but then noticed the store had V2 and V3, while V4 just came out. But, by the time I wanted to get it again I saw the globe.

 

[lesvape]

A bit related, but you think if I took my Globe e-cig(one standard liquid I got from the store and one special I made from ABV), and e-liquid in my checked luggage I would find any problems? It be from one state to another(well to Hawaii)?
I can use EJmix with abv instead of pure gold right? And I can then use it in the sapphire?

If you do use the EJmix tell us how it turned out and how you prepped it. Thanks

 

[Haywood]

I'm going to be traveling on work for the next week or so, in fact, I'm out of the country right now. So it probably won't be for another couple of weeks before I have a chance to play chemist and mix my pg with a thinning agent.

I wanted to make something clear, as I'm not sure from your questions that I made myself clear in my previous messages. The sapphire v4 works perfectly with PG as is. The only reason I'm investigating thinning out PG is so I can use it in the GotVapes Nano clearo. PG works in the Nano, just not as well as in the Sapphire. Regular e-juice works better for me in the Nano; the draw is better and I prefer the round mouthpiece. And yes, the Sapphire is a version 4 Bud clearo.

As far as your questions about traveling with stuff, all I can tell you is that I travel with a setup that is impossible to distinguish from an e-cig without a laboratory test. Two Vision Spinner batteries, two or three clearos, one of which is filled with PG, and a few 3mL bottles filled with different e-juices. Tastes like an e-cig, looks like an e-cig, works like an e-cig. I've been through customs twice now with nary a question asked or an eyebrow raised. I don't think the Globe is as innocuous. I have zero experience with mixing yet, and I don't re-use my ABV, so I can't offer any thoughts about that.

 

[GR]

This thread got me thinking about thinning down some oil to give this a try since I don't have access to Pure Gold. I need some new carts for my e-juice since I haven't had much luck with ones I have, all leakers so thanks for the links. I have a sneaking feeling I may actually give cigs up if I could mix some oil with e-juice.

 

[Haywood]

It's worth a try . With e-juice, both the Sapphire v4 and the Nano work really well, though the Sapphire is slightly more leak proof when you're flying (pressure changes). GotVapes sells both though I think they're still out of stock with the Sapphire.

 

[lesvape]

So you think I get get by with a sapphire and two bottle of e-juice? Cause I have done drip carts and two bottles of regular e juice not abv based in my checked without a question. But I am wondering if I switch one for an ABV type would they know if it's in my checked? Thanks

 

[Haywood]

I think maybe you're starting to overthink this. Unless they do a chemical analysis at the airport how are they going to tell the difference between the two e-juices? Does your ABV juice really stink? As to how much to bring, I really can't guess for you. And I would bring two cartos, not one.

Have fun in Hawaii.

 

[Massiv710]

Get a 510 kanger stainless bottom coil cartomizer. pull out the cotton fill material, stick in your pure gold as you call it. warm the outside with a lighter till it a makes it's way down the bottom, and away you go. no thinning.holds a .5g max

 

[Haywood]

Thanks for the suggestion. Not sure you read my OP closely though. I already have one carto that works just dandy with Pure Gold (by the way, it's not that "I" call it Pure Gold, that's its name from the manufacturer. Check out tetralabs.com if you're actually interested). It's another carto that doesn't work as well with PG that I was wanting to use, as I particularly like this other carto.

As far as the kanger, it's too large, holds too little, and if I wanted to lobotomize a cart ("pull out the cotton fill material, stick in your pure gold as you call it. warm the outside with a lighter till it a makes it's way down the bottom, and away you go"), I'd choose something else anyway. Plus who wants to have to throw away a lobotomized cart every half gram load. Both the cartos I've been talking about hold over a gram and can be reloaded dozens of times.

 

[Massiv710]

wow I had no clue. Very interested. thanks!

 

[Trichoma]

First let me say just " WOW" I had the hard way of learning all this on my own and suggestions from friends over the years just like Mr. Haywood. This forum is amazing all the hard work from people like you and I shared so that everyone can enjoy the medication without harming there bodies.

I have used the original Joyetech eGo-T for the past year. It is the only one I have used that will not leak, clog, and generally brake. I have seen many but this unit works perfect for me. I use it with straight 99.9% food grade PG. My ratio is to only my preference (haywood seems to like it too) 30ml contains straight PG and 8g pure concentrate. This eGo-T system works perfect and the atomizers can be cleaned and reused. For hygienic purpose I tend to discard them after 4 months. at $15 each its not a bad deal.

Pure Gold is a pure concentrate however it goes past what we all have seen and tried. I encourage everyone to read the technical data on there "pure gold" product. It will be interesting to see how it mixes with PG.

 

[ataxian]

I've been delighted with Pure Gold as my super stealth & easy travel medication. Any suggestions or thoughts would be much appreciated. (As I hate to waste $expensive$ Pure Gold trying to figure it out by experimentation, which is why I thought I'd ask first).

I use CO2 OIL INDICA STRAIN. Changes the flavor and works well with PG.
At about 0.2 grams I top off with something else. On 4th of July stealth around family.
I have PG around to fill in between WAXES and FLOWERS.

 

[apocalypse-cow]

I've been delighted with Pure Gold as my super stealth & easy travel medication. I'm also an e-cig user, so I'm familiar with all manner of atty's, carto's, drip tips, and henway's. In fact, after much experimenting, I've found a couple of carto's that I really love; they don't leak, they survive multiple trips in airplanes and through TSA, they hold around one mL, which is about 1.0 gram of PG, plenty to last me for a multiday, multicity business trip without refilling or carrying an extra PG ampule. They work fine with as small a PG load as 0.25g, with almost zero waste (maybe 0.05g). I really like this setup. When I'm home, if I want a 10% boost in taste, I'll use one of my ceramic based TET devices, but truth be known, using the carto on a VV spinner battery is so easy, and works so well, that I rarely bother anymore. Just talking about PG here, not the other myriad wonderful, flavorful

However, , there's only one carto that works well with the super thick Pure Gold. And although I like it, there's this other carto that I'd prefer to use with Pure Gold. It has a less restrictive draw, a nicer mouthpiece, and it's much sturdier, but it just doesn't work well with that thick a liquid. Now I'm used to mixing my different e-juices, to get the flavor I like, and I know about the difference in thickness between the VG and PG based e-juices (the PG e-juice is NOT a reference to Pure Gold, rather it's a reference to Propylene Glycol).

So I was wondering if I could mix the PG (Pure Gold) with something else to make it a little thinner. But I don't have much of a clue as to what to mix it with. I have no idea what Pure Gold is soluble in. Water? Propylene Glycol? 95% Ethanol? Any suggestions or thoughts would be much appreciated. (As I hate to waste $expensive$ Pure Gold trying to figure it out by experimentation, which is why I thought I'd ask first).

I know this thread is kinda old, but I was trying to figure out the same thing. I'd like to be able to add a little flavoring to cover the smell of the PureGold Plus that I just bought. (I know regular PureGold smells pretty much like citrus, but I've never used the Plus before and think it will probably smell a little more like bud.)

Have you had any luck since posting this originally?

 

[JoeKickass]

I've been pretty happy with liduidizer's ejmix + mini protank 2, I've thinned down all kinds of shatters and waxes and they just keep feeding!

 

[ataxian]

I've been pretty happy with liduidizer's ejmix + mini protank 2, I've thinned down all kinds of shatters and waxes and they just keep feeding!

PURE GOLD gives me a horrible head ache?
Plain natural SHATTER (not diluted) taste best and doesn't give me a headache?

So you can cut your concentrate add flavor and it doesn't give you a headache?