Discontinued ThermoVape
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Adobewan
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Thermovape Review
Sorry no video.
Where the Stealthvape looks like the next generation of MFLB with the battery contact and screen warmer, this seems to be one generation further. Still incorporates moving a battery against a contact, but provides more power that the LB and, I imagine ( haven't tried it yet) the Stealth. Very cool looking, great feel, it's a well made device
Partial bowls seem to work best, coat the bottom of the chamber and fill about a quarter to a half full to avoid heating unevenly. With a full bowl the center bottom of the load can combust while the top and outer edges remain untouched unless stirred/shaken.
I've gotten two to three very full hits from the partial fill although the third starts to taste a bit burnt. I may be taking too long a draw, may need to make it six smaller draws to avoid combusting, learning curve.
I have taken the spent load and put it into a Solo stem and gotten one to two more full hits depending on unevenness.
Ah, the batteries, one of the only things that keeps this from being the undisputed king. They're not small, and only last so long. If you were to go out to share this, bring your spare batteries.
The unit gets hot, particularly the on/off slider, again, I may be need to take smaller draws.
Crystals gather on the holes above the chamber which lead to the mouthpiece, you have to scrape them off to keep from building up, tacky, but crusty, I'd say half-cooked to cooked. The TV might do well with a cleaning brush like the one included with the Launch box.
Design and function A
Efficiently B - A, learning curve is still a factor, this will be updated
Pros
Design- Sleek, smart, easily fits in your pocket and clearly a well put together, easy to maintain device.
Operation- Quick easy on/off, quick warm up and cool down
First 2 to 3 hits are cloudy
Cons
Battery life limits(think MFLB)
Can cook unevenly, can combust easily
Unit gets quite hot to the touch!!
I plan to update this as I use it more.
To wrap up, ATM;
-The Omicron is the best portable due to fill and charge frequency, potent, stealthy, easy on/off
-For flowers, the TV works faster, but the Solo produces more vapor
Sorry no video.
Where the Stealthvape looks like the next generation of MFLB with the battery contact and screen warmer, this seems to be one generation further. Still incorporates moving a battery against a contact, but provides more power that the LB and, I imagine ( haven't tried it yet) the Stealth. Very cool looking, great feel, it's a well made device
Partial bowls seem to work best, coat the bottom of the chamber and fill about a quarter to a half full to avoid heating unevenly. With a full bowl the center bottom of the load can combust while the top and outer edges remain untouched unless stirred/shaken.
I've gotten two to three very full hits from the partial fill although the third starts to taste a bit burnt. I may be taking too long a draw, may need to make it six smaller draws to avoid combusting, learning curve.
I have taken the spent load and put it into a Solo stem and gotten one to two more full hits depending on unevenness.
Ah, the batteries, one of the only things that keeps this from being the undisputed king. They're not small, and only last so long. If you were to go out to share this, bring your spare batteries.
The unit gets hot, particularly the on/off slider, again, I may be need to take smaller draws.
Crystals gather on the holes above the chamber which lead to the mouthpiece, you have to scrape them off to keep from building up, tacky, but crusty, I'd say half-cooked to cooked. The TV might do well with a cleaning brush like the one included with the Launch box.
Design and function A
Efficiently B - A, learning curve is still a factor, this will be updated
Pros
Design- Sleek, smart, easily fits in your pocket and clearly a well put together, easy to maintain device.
Operation- Quick easy on/off, quick warm up and cool down
First 2 to 3 hits are cloudy
Cons
Battery life limits(think MFLB)
Can cook unevenly, can combust easily
Unit gets quite hot to the touch!!
I plan to update this as I use it more.
To wrap up, ATM;
-The Omicron is the best portable due to fill and charge frequency, potent, stealthy, easy on/off
-For flowers, the TV works faster, but the Solo produces more vapor
sessnet
Noob Saibot
darkrom said:
True darkrom - but it's the only other vape I have/use now (eterra is in hibernation) and I would like to know if there is anything that the Thermovape left to be desired (like maybe being able to load a ton of stuff into the MFLB?). And since there weren't any detailed reviews I was hoping to get some juicy info
Speaking of reviews Adobewan just struck us with a lighting bolt of a review (I hope) which I am off to read and salivate over!
Adobewan
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@SF
If your combustion question was at me, yes, blackened, more so than my Solo with a burnt taste, where using the Solo, the load is nearly blackened(evenly throughout) but it doesn't taste burnt. But as I mentioned, I may be taking too long a draw and didn't stir when I first began use, didn't occur to me I had to.
I know of people who have combusted in their MFLBs as well.
Sorry if my semantics are off.
If your combustion question was at me, yes, blackened, more so than my Solo with a burnt taste, where using the Solo, the load is nearly blackened(evenly throughout) but it doesn't taste burnt. But as I mentioned, I may be taking too long a draw and didn't stir when I first began use, didn't occur to me I had to.
I know of people who have combusted in their MFLBs as well.
Sorry if my semantics are off.
BossBrew
Metalhead
Uh oh, looks like I won't be getting the TV today.
"Your item was misrouted. The error has been corrected and every effort is being made to deliver it as soon as possible. Information, if available, is updated periodically throughout the day. Please check again later."
Arrival at Post Office, January 05, 2012, 9:29 am, SAN FRANCISCO, CA 94128
Sorry USPS but I'm actually in Southern California! I have ordered thousands of products online and surprisingly enough this is the first time anything has ever been misrouted. Not a big deal as I will most likely receive it tomorrow.
Back to my Solo while I patiently vape.
"Your item was misrouted. The error has been corrected and every effort is being made to deliver it as soon as possible. Information, if available, is updated periodically throughout the day. Please check again later."
Arrival at Post Office, January 05, 2012, 9:29 am, SAN FRANCISCO, CA 94128
Sorry USPS but I'm actually in Southern California! I have ordered thousands of products online and surprisingly enough this is the first time anything has ever been misrouted. Not a big deal as I will most likely receive it tomorrow.
Back to my Solo while I patiently vape.
Futuretvowner
Member
How can you even compare this to your iolite in efficiency? I can pack a full illite bowl and and see big clouds for 20 minutes and be no where near fully medicated.
OF
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OK gentle readers, here goes a somewhat less than fully objective initial review of the TV. First off, I have a guy here cleaning the gutters so I filled it up, took a pair of trial hits inside to check it out and once I knew it was going to draw it went outside to wait for the guy to leave.
Turns out he's a cool guy, another 'old hippie' with a 'sometimes when I'm bowling' pot hobby. Let his card expire last year. Never vaped. You know, a pigeon? And here I am with my brand new TV in my pants pocket.... 60 seconds of instructions and he got two HUGE hits right off. Bigger than I think I'll be taking. Coughed big time on the first one, dove back seconds later for another. What dedication. Literally his first ever vape experience of any sort (or so he claimed). So much for learning curves. Since he was a newbie, I went back inside and brought out the Omicron and Iolite. He was interested, took the information down, but refused to try either due to those two hits a few minutes before. Not very scientific for sure, but IMO a very good indication of the potential. I'm stoked to say the least.
Four hits, two guys, still going strong, time to put down for a bit. And my first one was weak 'cuz I drew too hard. Looking at it, there's life in the bowl still. Hard to find fault with that, guess I won't try.
I loaded 1/8 gram of very fine grind, what I normally load in the MFLB. It's fine enough so if you suck real hard (much harder than when you hit it normally) you do get some debris. Not sure it's a big deal. In a funny way it's kind of like a hot rod LB. It takes about 3 seconds to get to heat, but there's lots of heat there if you draw slow enough. No worries about 'I think my box is one of the cool ones'. This one may flog the battery hard, but it gets the required job done. Or so it seems. Clearly more testing is needed, I'm setting up an intensive schedule to that end. No need to thank me about this, I'm happy to do it for the cause.
A word about the construction. While I really like the MFLB for it's cross between slick design and wood and simple materials (kind of gives and organic sort of result that's clearly high tech as well), this one is straight business. Serious business, life and death stuff. Sanitary. The very sort of stuff you'd expect to see in the Doctor's office. Parts fit and work well, finish is impeccable, it has the solid feel of a tool you can trust in your hand and is very natural to use. It just feels tough (and no doubt is), with a new heater or two and some new batteries along the way it could easily last a guy a lot of years. Perhaps a whole 'vaping lifetime'. I would not be surprised if antique ones in the future aren't still in service.....unless the politicians get them.
I'll be glad to answer any specific questions I can, sorry I'm not posting a video for all you peeping tom types. I think more testing is in order, will you please excuse me?
OF
Turns out he's a cool guy, another 'old hippie' with a 'sometimes when I'm bowling' pot hobby. Let his card expire last year. Never vaped. You know, a pigeon? And here I am with my brand new TV in my pants pocket.... 60 seconds of instructions and he got two HUGE hits right off. Bigger than I think I'll be taking. Coughed big time on the first one, dove back seconds later for another. What dedication. Literally his first ever vape experience of any sort (or so he claimed). So much for learning curves. Since he was a newbie, I went back inside and brought out the Omicron and Iolite. He was interested, took the information down, but refused to try either due to those two hits a few minutes before. Not very scientific for sure, but IMO a very good indication of the potential. I'm stoked to say the least.
Four hits, two guys, still going strong, time to put down for a bit. And my first one was weak 'cuz I drew too hard. Looking at it, there's life in the bowl still. Hard to find fault with that, guess I won't try.
I loaded 1/8 gram of very fine grind, what I normally load in the MFLB. It's fine enough so if you suck real hard (much harder than when you hit it normally) you do get some debris. Not sure it's a big deal. In a funny way it's kind of like a hot rod LB. It takes about 3 seconds to get to heat, but there's lots of heat there if you draw slow enough. No worries about 'I think my box is one of the cool ones'. This one may flog the battery hard, but it gets the required job done. Or so it seems. Clearly more testing is needed, I'm setting up an intensive schedule to that end. No need to thank me about this, I'm happy to do it for the cause.
A word about the construction. While I really like the MFLB for it's cross between slick design and wood and simple materials (kind of gives and organic sort of result that's clearly high tech as well), this one is straight business. Serious business, life and death stuff. Sanitary. The very sort of stuff you'd expect to see in the Doctor's office. Parts fit and work well, finish is impeccable, it has the solid feel of a tool you can trust in your hand and is very natural to use. It just feels tough (and no doubt is), with a new heater or two and some new batteries along the way it could easily last a guy a lot of years. Perhaps a whole 'vaping lifetime'. I would not be surprised if antique ones in the future aren't still in service.....unless the politicians get them.
I'll be glad to answer any specific questions I can, sorry I'm not posting a video for all you peeping tom types. I think more testing is in order, will you please excuse me?
OF
Futuretvowner said:
Really? because I can pack any size bowl on my WISPR and draw clouds for quite a while. And if I had packed it all the way full I am rip roaring rocked. Often more rocked than I want to be. And for a long time. Maybe it is what you are putting in. Since I switched from combusting to the WISPR i use virtually nothing super efficient IMHO.
OF
Well-Known Member
sessnet said:Are you sure that was a tootsie roll in the box, or maybe your puppy isn't housebroken yet?
Compared to the MFLB (if you have one) how does this outperform it?
Good point, like I said not my first choice in flavors...... I'll let someone else do that part of the testing for me, I'm busy. Then again, if the munchies get ahold of me.....
I actually have a couple of LBs. Really like them for what they are. This is a different beast though, and while in the same class it is a beast. Where with the LB you have to milk the modest heat available, this one has 'power to burn' (within limits). If you slow your draw too much (and fail to drop the 'chicken switch') you're going to be in serious trouble in short order. Not for the timid. A 'Launch Box on Steroids' if you will. If that's what you want, there ya go. I tend to think I'll still enjoy playing with the LB, same as I like relaxing with the Iolite. The TV is for getting the job done right now. Same church, different pew if you will.
A guy really needs both. And an Omicron. That may change some with the Revolution and in a strange way with Omicron (or rather the new Persei) pushing a 'flower cart' into our lives soon. Kind of a fun convergence, doncha think?
Back to testing. Work, work, work......
OF
Edit: So it looks like I flattened the battery so time to hit the charger (yeah I should have done it before but you know how it goes.....). Typical red/green indicator like some of the MFLB chargers and lots of others. I'm color blind, that change is basically useless to me and a LOT of guys. Basically men only, but at about the same level as being left handed (one in 8 or 10). Not all are red/green color blind, or are all of us the same but R/G is half the cases.
That said, the MFLB power supply for the PA (which I already have plugged in) fits the charger and runs it just fine. Another nice touch for those of us that own both IMO. Not planned, but nice.
OF
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sok186 said:
Be glad to, send me your Solo (I don't own one). I return it when I'm through with it. Maybe.
Oh, yeah, maybe you should send some of your stash, too? I can return the unused part (if any) as well when I'm done. We want to make it a useful comparison after all......
OF
VaporNinja
Well-Known Member
i wish the battery life is longer on this thing, a pair of battery won't even allow me to finish the whole bowl...
zmurder
Well-Known Member
VaporNinja said:
Well that comment's not gonna help you sell the thing. I can get 2 bowls from a set of batteries, but I only load the bowl loosely about 1/2 way full. But I can get 10 monster rips from each bowl (with one stir halfway) so I'm not disappointed.
Edit: BTW, my "stir" technique is just to unscrew the cap, dump the material from bowl to cap, then back, and screw the cap back on. Doing this delivers a good 4-5 more nice lung-fulls.
OF
Well-Known Member
sok186 said:
Not to worry, folks are confusing us all the time. C2V is the young guy, and BB is the good looking one......
I don't think I'd recommend any of these guys for a first vape (mind I don't have a Solo), I'm a fan of the Vapor Genie as a cheaper way to get into it. It puts you in touch with the process, lets you try all sorts of temperatures, gives good efficiency and gives you a good way to 'get your feet wet'. Probably not what you want to hear, but that's my advice.
VaporNinja said:
Understood, I guess no matter someone will be looking for more. Yes, it's short but I suspect that a 'right size' bowl will finish with a little battery to spare once I get a handle on it. Other guys report that I think. Perhaps a change in pattern (fewer, longer tokes?) might sort it out, or maybe just a smaller bowl, but new batteries with a new bowl should work if I can get there.
Be fun trying to figure it out.
OF
darco
Well-Known Member
Hi OF, congratulations on your TV. I see a signature update is required I'd love to hear about how easy is it to clean the bowl and the vapor path. Also, does finely ground herbs escape into your vapor path / mouth? How hot is the vapor?
I'd also like to know how much resin buildup there is in the vapor path, but that can only be talked about after a week of continuous use i guess. I am sick of cleaning my solo glass pipes. The ritual has gotten painful. I hope the TV is easy to clean.
I'd love to hear about how easy is it to clean the bowl and the vapor path. Also, does finely ground herbs escape into your vapor path / mouth? How hot is the vapor?I'd also like to know how much resin buildup there is in the vapor path, but that can only be talked about after a week of continuous use i guess. I am sick of cleaning my solo glass pipes. The ritual has gotten painful. I hope the TV is easy to clean.
OF
Well-Known Member
darco said:Hi OF, congratulations on your TV. I see a signature update is required
I'd also like to know how much resin buildup there is in the vapor path, but that can only be talked about after a week of continuous use i guess. I am sick of cleaning my solo glass pipes. The ritual has gotten painful. I hope the TV is easy to clean.
Thanks, glad I got it. Not sure what you mean by signature update, if that's important. While it's not gummy yet, so far no issues with cleaning. A quick brush out and blow down through the mouthpiece seems to do the trick. Extremely fine grind can be sucked through the top if you try really hard, but in normal use this doesn't seem to be the case. Vapor heat is not an issue, although the unit does get warm.
Resin hopefully won't be a burden. It's designed to boil out which should be fast, complete and easy. Time will tell.
OF