Stu said:
One thing that hasn't really been mentioned is that like the LB, the ThermoVape is a vairiable-temp vaporizer. I have only begun to experiment with how to control the temp with this device, and I know it took me quite a while to master the LB, too.
It does seem that my fast-draw hits have more of a burnt popcorn/coffee taste than my slower draws do. This is counter-intuitive to me. Maybe convection is more complicated that I thought?
It's different for sure. IMO it's kinda dangerous to use LB skills, they don't work the same. Hard pulls make the TV run hotter, not cool it off like the LB. Exactly the opposite.
I don't think of mine as a fancy LB, but rather an electric VG. The use rules and techniques are I think a closer match. Otherwise, I fully agree, it's a complex and versatile device. Well made and most useful when understood.
vapor 4 life said:
OF how would you clean out bubble hash stickiness on the go without boiling. also how high of quality bubble were you using? thanks
The bulk of the gunk (that's a technical term, I hope you know it?) sticks to itself. That's how it's easy to stir with a toothpick. You pick it up when warm like a knot of bubble gun with a pencil, poke it around a bit and back down on the ceramic. The last time, you just pull it out instead and add fresh.
I also found a ISO soak very effective, more so if you have an ultrasonic sink to help it along but for 'out and about' use I don't think there's much of a problem.
I intentionally used the lowest grade, cheapest ($15/gram) bubble hash I had. I expect more normal grades would be easier to deal with. It gums up the herb I layer it with in my Iolite, something better grades don't do. I think it's a 'worst case'.
pecosthecat said:
For best result a slow, but firm draw is needed. The point to keep in mind is that you need airflow over the herb to extract the vapor, but you need to keep the speed slow so as to not cool things down. I find it takes a fair bit of suction, but a slow and controlled speed to get the best results. Soft sips like used on the MFLB don't work well.
Agreed, it's not a Launch Box, nor much like it except for size and general use. Airflow is what transfers heat, not cools stuff off. Within reason you can cut the draw when you get in too deep, just releasing the 'chicken switch' doesn't do it as the heater core itself is already much hotter than the herb it's heating. It doesn't rapidly ramp up and down in temp like the LB screen does.
I suggest letting it heat five or so seconds then start a steady sort of 'medium speed' draw until it comes to working temperature. Then slack off some and hunt for 'the sweet spot' you're after. And be responsive to your results and modify accordingly. As another poster put it, the TV wants to teach you how to use it.
SF Giant said:
Fwiw i load a full bowl every time for these super tasty/dense hits you speak of, a little extra stirring isn't a problem for me if the reward is better hits
I think you hit it spot on. A flexible machine, very capable if you meet it at least part way. Expect it to do what you want the way you want to do it and you might be in for disappointment. For myself, as a relaxed user, it's kind of fun to mess with between hits anyway.
OF
. If we were to vote i would say no new thread. btw bruno13 did you have the chance to try the TV? I didnt yet but im looking forward to it in the near future. After following this thread from page 1 it seems like no one has yet mastered all the different techniques. Yet alot guys still doing testing with very good results and tips. I guess the anticipation of new portable vape technology, IMO, overwhelms some of us vaporists and we dont have the patience to learn how to use it properly. Every vape has a learning curve. Once the hype of "hey i got a new vape" dies down then the user seem to ride that curve.