Sorry, I should have been a bit clear, but I meant the T1/Evolution LL top. Thank youNo known 'mods' work with Cera LL carts, the threads are different. Unless you make your own, you'll have to wait for a thread adapter. You can see mine with a couple of Cera carts, as you can see the 510 connector is much smaller:
None of the commonly available VV e-cigs can supply enough current, even with an adapter to fix the threads. The Cera carts are under one Ohm.
OF
Discontinued ThermoVape
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OF
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OK, that probably means you can make the threads work on Evolution, I never tried with T1. It would have to be LV not SV (look for a "LV" engraved on the contact button) of course. But you'll still have the power issue. No VV mods are going to support the current needed I think. Both those carts need even more power than Cera LL does (reducing the power demand through better insulation was a goal with Cera).
TV uses 510 threads there, but they often run longer than normal (not a problem with TV supplies), but that should be able to be dealt with. I can't say for sure about T1 since the switch is involved normally. I've never tried it.
If you have the SV version (but are otherwise OK), TV can rewind it for you to the lower voltage for $15 or so.
OF
OF
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You're welcome. Good luck. You know they haven't been produced for over a year now, right? Some few new ones hiding is stock somewhere pop up from time to time, and once or twice in the classifieds, I suggest if you come across one and are interested you jump on it?
OF
Haywood
Onward Thru the Fog
Mynameismud mentoned Vaporenvy, which does sell the Evo LL top in $30 range(might be the SV model don't remember off the top of my head). It is kind of tempting to try with my mechanical.
On a related note is the Dart still worth it, or are there better options out there now?
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OF
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IMO Revolution/DART is second best to Cera, and I can actually take either side of that argument. IMO if you can get a DART for anything like a reasonable price, do it. You can couple it to a normal e-cig battery (Ego Twist is recommended by Pipes, I'll second that one), as it's basically a 1.5 Ohm 510 thread cart.
OF
Haywood
Onward Thru the Fog
The LV Dart was designed to be run on a single cell mech mod. So you don't want to go above 4.2 volts (or below 3.5 volts, really). If you tell me what resistance your DART turns out to be, I can tell you what wattage setting you should avoid going above.
hash will clog up your DART and probably won't work well in any case. Stick with stuff that passes the foil test (put a bit of it on a piece of foil, heat the foil from below slowly with something, and watch to see if the stuff melts and then turns to vapor, and most importantly, leaves essentially zero residue).
hash will clog up your DART and probably won't work well in any case. Stick with stuff that passes the foil test (put a bit of it on a piece of foil, heat the foil from below slowly with something, and watch to see if the stuff melts and then turns to vapor, and most importantly, leaves essentially zero residue).
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
If it's LV you need to run it at 3.7v. I like it on my mechanical because it heats up fast.
Hash has too much plant matter and will mess with the porous ceramics. Even good bubble hash I still wouldn't try, strictly high quality BHO and CO2 oil. You want stuff with the minimum amount of residue left over (ideally none!).
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Yeah that works, if it melts and vaporizes with barely any residue or no residue it's the good stuff and can be used.
I'm using a K100 with a Sony VTC5 driving an igo-w 3, dual coil setup at .7 ohms for ejuice. I think these batteries perform better when subohming but it's definitely plenty enough energy to get my DART warmed up and vaping within seconds.
PPN
Volute of Vapor
My experience with the originals TV: T1, Evolution and Revolution (not Dart)
T1 is really tasty, can produces nice clouds with the right technique but my main issue with it was the restrictive draws (I tried different mods without success and it was clogged all the time and I used a screen on the top of my bowl) and the short battery longlife, I don't keep it more than 1 month...
When I got the Revolution I was not ready to handle it and I didn't understood what was a good oil so I killed it quickly without to get good results, now, I get more knowledges about concentrates and I'm thinking to get one again...but there is too much easier vapes now....
The Evolution is my favourite, it perform at least like the T1 (better imo) without need to stir and with a really better airflow, I don't use it a lot but every time I take it out I'm impressed how it tastes good and how clouds are bigs (I only use it through water and it performs really good with my HC bubbler), abv is every time deep if you don't load too much, if it was the short battery long life (8 big rips per 2 batterys= 2 full bowls) this vape would be one of the better (except it's a pIA to use but since it's a fully convection vape you need work to heat the load but this is explain a so nice taste!) I love my TV Evolution!
Good rips!
T1 is really tasty, can produces nice clouds with the right technique but my main issue with it was the restrictive draws (I tried different mods without success and it was clogged all the time and I used a screen on the top of my bowl) and the short battery longlife, I don't keep it more than 1 month...
When I got the Revolution I was not ready to handle it and I didn't understood what was a good oil so I killed it quickly without to get good results, now, I get more knowledges about concentrates and I'm thinking to get one again...but there is too much easier vapes now....
The Evolution is my favourite, it perform at least like the T1 (better imo) without need to stir and with a really better airflow, I don't use it a lot but every time I take it out I'm impressed how it tastes good and how clouds are bigs (I only use it through water and it performs really good with my HC bubbler), abv is every time deep if you don't load too much, if it was the short battery long life (8 big rips per 2 batterys= 2 full bowls) this vape would be one of the better (except it's a pIA to use but since it's a fully convection vape you need work to heat the load but this is explain a so nice taste!) I love my TV Evolution!
Good rips!
Good to know as I too also have a K100 and been looking at getting the VTC5. Thank you!
Rocco
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I just received the 6v power output supply+plus the body that was made and sold by TV for a short time, man this thing is cool. It has a rather short chord (5ft) but its nice not soley relying on rechargeable batteries that have a limited life span.
Does anyone else have one of these? Have you ever had one break on you? If so were you able to find another power supply that still fit in the switch/body input?
Does anyone else have one of these? Have you ever had one break on you? If so were you able to find another power supply that still fit in the switch/body input?
hanfhead
is high
Yes I have the TV power supply. It really turns the T1 into a viable desktop vape. I always love the tasty clouds it delivers.
I have an extension I use with it because the cord is very short. Something like this.
Also, I have broken the plug. I replaced it with a 90 degree plug and solder/heatshrinked the ends together. Maybe get an extension now so you just break that. Because you know you will end up pushing it on by the cord. Sometimes I put something in the bottom to push the switch on and just plug it in when I want to heat it. But if you forget it plugged in, I didn't suggest that.
I have an extension I use with it because the cord is very short. Something like this.
Also, I have broken the plug. I replaced it with a 90 degree plug and solder/heatshrinked the ends together. Maybe get an extension now so you just break that. Because you know you will end up pushing it on by the cord. Sometimes I put something in the bottom to push the switch on and just plug it in when I want to heat it. But if you forget it plugged in, I didn't suggest that.
OF
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Yup, I've got one. Pretty neat all right. Bummer is it's only available in SV (too much current needed for LV really.
Not to worry about replacement supplies. It's an oddball all right, TV had to order a big old pile of them to get the vendor to make them up. They have LOTS of them left, I recall seeing a tote full of them a while back. If you want one, I'd email Zeki........
Cool. Be a little careful of extension cables, the main reason the cord is as short as it is is any longer and the supply no longer makes specs due to voltage drops in the cable. Performance suffers, fortunately there's a lot of margin built in so you still make vapor but in A/B testing (one in each hand) you can spot the difference.
Getting this to work with LV runs straight into this problem. The best solution gets more complex, I ended up using a voltage converter in the head and feeding a higher voltage (at lower current) up the cable and regulating down at the load (or very close to it), much as power is delivered from Boulder Dam to your street. I can't find the T1 version photos right now, but this is what the latest version for Cera looks like:
The converter is in the center (inside the insulator piece from the T1 PA adapter body). There's a push button switch in the velco strap, assembled it looks like this:
The proposed PA for Cera (and T1 LV) was rejected by TV since there are no suitable US made converters (I'm using a Japanese designed, Chinese made unit), a 'must have' for them.
OF
I couldn't imagine my T1 without it! It got to the point where my batteries just wouldn't cut it anymore.
If you can't get a spare power adapter from TV as @OF recommended, you can purchase one here:
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/WSU060-4000/237-1389-ND/3094915
I bought a spare from them, no issues with my purchase.
PPN
Volute of Vapor
I don't understand how to connect this power adaptater since the picture show us only a jack (but it's written the picture could not match the product), I ask that cause I could be interested since I use my TV evo at home...
hanfhead
is high
You will need one of these if they are still available.
There is also a diy connector on ebay from a user here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/External-Po...ThermoVape-Vaporizers-T1-SV-EVO-/181382386295
Darb
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Good luck with Vapor Envy. I've emailed them multiple times and they are too lazy to even respond. I decided if they can't respond to an email, I shouldn't give them my credit card info.
hanfhead
is high
I emailed vapor envy a few days before christmas and got a response the next day. They were very friendly and asked me to contact them by phone as they prefer phone calls for credit card orders for security. The number they gave me to call is listed on their homepage.
llamaman001
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Call them. Very friendly people that will make sure your happy.....on another note, how can you say the evolution is better than the T1?? I can get pax sized clouds with mine but only tiny wispy hits with the evo..I've tried about 10 different techniques and none worked