Discontinued ThermoVape

VaporNinja

Well-Known Member
MarcellusWiley said:
Yea to be honest most people probably just want to see some huge clouds :p, which will end up coming mainly from users.

I will make some 'cloudy' video upon receiving my unit next week
:D
 
VaporNinja,

ThermoVape

Vaporizer Manufacturer
Manufacturer
VaporNinja said:
MarcellusWiley said:
Yea to be honest most people probably just want to see some huge clouds :p, which will end up coming mainly from users.

I will make some 'cloudy' video upon receiving my unit next week
:D

All of our beta testers are medical users, we might be able to get them to pitch in and give a usage demo...
 
ThermoVape,

SF Giant

Reluctant vape collector
OF said:
Anyway, of mighty source of useful observations, how long do you figure each of those 10 hits is taking in terms of key down battery use?
my average hit is maybe 15 to 20 seconds including heatup time...maybe 10 if the element is already pretty warm from previous hits
 
SF Giant,

OF

Well-Known Member
SF Giant said:
OF said:
Anyway, of mighty source of useful observations, how long do you figure each of those 10 hits is taking in terms of key down battery use?
my average hit is maybe 15 to 20 seconds including heatup time...maybe 10 if the element is already pretty warm from previous hits

Thanks once again. So maybe 3 minutes total against 4 or so for the MFLB? Close enough for jazz.

I guess it makes sense it's going to be a bit slower, there's a lot more mass in the heater than in that thin mesh in the LB.

OF
 
OF,

SF Giant

Reluctant vape collector
OF said:
SF Giant said:
OF said:
Anyway, of mighty source of useful observations, how long do you figure each of those 10 hits is taking in terms of key down battery use?
my average hit is maybe 15 to 20 seconds including heatup time...maybe 10 if the element is already pretty warm from previous hits

Thanks once again. So maybe 3 minutes total against 4 or so for the MFLB? Close enough for jazz.

I guess it makes sense it's going to be a bit slower, there's a lot more mass in the heater than in that thin mesh in the LB.

OF
And it is getting it glowing hot as opposed to gently warming it
 
SF Giant,

OF

Well-Known Member
SF Giant said:
And it is getting it glowing hot as opposed to gently warming it

Good point, that takes power and time. More power for less time. It also means that when you shut down, there's a lot of heat stored in there that will be 'coming out' but further heating the body, batteries, your hand and whatever it can. You 'pay' for that with battery capacity and it largely doesn't help the effort.

Another way to look at it is some (fairly small) amount of energy is needed to do the necessary work of vaporizing. Any unit needs to do that much. Past that, all the energy put into the system is 'lost' and actually becomes somewhat of a problem potentially.

Then again, it does seem to handily separate the THC from the rest.....and that's what we wanted it for, right?

OF
 
OF,

ThermoVape

Vaporizer Manufacturer
Manufacturer
Building a portable convection vaporizer is a more substantial undertaking from an engineering and design standpoint then a conduction vaporizer. I am sure this is why so few pocket friendly convection vaporizers (any? other then the ThermoVape) are on the market. The ThermoVape kicks out 30 Watts, and certainly pushes the LiFePO4 batteries... But convection is superior IMO, no one is out buying conduction desk top units. You have to bathe the the flower in the hot air to really open it up and maximize the release of the active metabolites, that was our goal. We certainly could of achieved much longer run time with a conduction unit. However we just feel that technology is not for us... convection only.
 
ThermoVape,

SF Giant

Reluctant vape collector
Im with you for sure on the covection>conduction tip, im really digging this vape more and more as i get my technique down, i tried it for the first time with my bubbler tonight and was able to milk it damn near close to the rips i get from my SSV with a bit slower draw, still adjusting to being able to get such big dense hits while on the go, iv'e been caught off guard and over medicated a bit while out and about a couple times already lol :ko:
 
SF Giant,

ThermoVape

Vaporizer Manufacturer
Manufacturer
SF Giant said:
Im with you for sure on the covection>conduction tip, im really digging this vape more and more as i get my technique down, i tried it for the first time with my bubbler tonight and was able to milk it damn near close to the rips i get from my SSV with a bit slower draw, still adjusting to being able to get such big dense hits while on the go, iv'e been caught off guard and over medicated a bit while out and about a couple times already lol :ko:

I cannot express to you how happy that post makes all of us here at ThermoVape (yes.. the music is still going and the crew is still working, hand assembly is no joke!).

Much appreciation from all of us, to know that the ThermoVape is performing for you, and delivering... well that is what it is all about for us!
 
ThermoVape,

gvape

Well-Known Member
Just sent an email over to you guys. Pretty interested in the vape, excited to hear back from you.

Really interested to see how the revolution attachment works.
 
gvape,

OF

Well-Known Member
ThermoVape said:
The ThermoVape kicks out 30 Watts, and certainly pushes the LiFePO4 batteries... But convection is superior IMO, no one is out buying conduction desk top units. You have to bathe the the flower in the hot air to really open it up and maximize the release of the active metabolites, that was our goal. We certainly could of achieved much longer run time with a conduction unit. However we just feel that technology is not for us... convection only.

Excellent points, no arguments. More so, there's great insight in them for those who follow. Yes, there's a HUGE difference between 30 Watts in the TV and the ten or so in the LB. This basically forces the LB to heat only part of the load (conduction). For sure 30 watts from two 123Rs is way way past design spec for them. With the TV we're looking for five Amps from a battery that is designed for a small fraction of that and can produce at most (dead short) 12 Amps. At this level, for instance, a full third of the power delivered goes to heating the battery, not the heater, let alone the weed. No, I agree, you've pushed about as far as is reasonable in the noble effort....efficiency is not a factor really.

The goal of vaporizing a reasonable amount of bud with a single battery set in a small easy to deal with package seems to not only have been a good goal but also met. Going for longer battery life would have meant sacrificing in more important areas.

OF
 
OF,

ThermoVape

Vaporizer Manufacturer
Manufacturer
OF said:
Excellent points, no arguments. More so, there's great insight in them for those who follow. Yes, there's a HUGE difference between 30 Watts in the TV and the ten or so in the LB. This basically forces the LB to heat only part of the load (conduction). For sure 30 watts from two 123Rs is way way past design spec for them. With the TV we're looking for five Amps from a battery that is designed for a small fraction of that and can produce at most (dead short) 12 Amps. At this level, for instance, a full third of the power delivered goes to heating the battery, not the heater, let alone the weed. No, I agree, you've pushed about as far as is reasonable in the noble effort....efficiency is not a factor really.

The goal of vaporizing a reasonable amount of bud with a single battery set in a small easy to deal with package seems to not only have been a good goal but also met. Going for longer battery life would have meant sacrificing in more important areas.

OF

You are 100% correct, we tried countless prototypes with different configurations of batteries, heater core variants, etc. Where we ended with the ThermoVape was the absolute best we could do given the size constraint. We wanted a convection vaporizer that would easily and comfortably fit in your pocket, and would pack enough convection punch to fully satisfy the owner.

Reading your post above, I can tell you if feels good to hear from those on the front line, that this undertaking is appreciated.
 
ThermoVape,
Ok one question if I'm with a group of 3 people and we finish using one set of batteries will it be too hot to put In a new pair immediately?
 
Futuretvowner,

zmurder

Well-Known Member
I received my white Thermovape this afternoon. I've only done a couple bowls so don't really want to say much, besides: it works, and I like it.

A couple questions:

1. The unit is overall quite solid, but the batteries rattle slightly in their containing sleeve. Is this normal? Doesn't seem to be a problem.

2. The mouthpiece on the white version is plastic (or Delrin) which isn't shown on the website. Does the black version come with a metal mouthpiece, and the white with plastic?

I like the TV so far, and I'm already pretty sure it'll replace my MFLBs for portable use. I'll know more after I put it to the test on a 2-week trip starting next monday. Cheers!
 
zmurder,

ThermoVape

Vaporizer Manufacturer
Manufacturer
Futuretvowner said:
Ok one question if I'm with a group of 3 people and we finish using one set of batteries will it be too hot to put In a new pair immediately?

No, you can throw the batteries straight in. No problems. The device will get warm, and I imagine if you had a never ending supply of batteries and enough people to keep vaping there would be a point you want it to let it cool down.

zmurder said:
I received my white Thermovape this afternoon. I've only done a couple bowls so don't really want to say much, besides: it works, and I like it.

A couple questions:

1. The unit is overall quite solid, but the batteries rattle slightly in their containing sleeve. Is this normal? Doesn't seem to be a problem.

2. The mouthpiece on the white version is plastic (or Delrin) which isn't shown on the website. Does the black version come with a metal mouthpiece, and the white with plastic?

I like the TV so far, and I'm already pretty sure it'll replace my MFLBs for portable use. I'll know more after I put it to the test on a 2-week trip starting next monday. Cheers!

To answer your questions:

1. This is normal, we have to account for the tolerance variance in the batteries, some will fit tighter then other.

2. The pictures on the website are being updated, all ThermoVapes sold have shipped with the matching Delrin mouthpiece. We have the metal mouthpieces available separately. The Metal will get warmer (not burn you warm) then the Delrin and we felt it was a better choice. We also offer longer mouthpieces as an option. These should be available on the website tomorrow.
 
ThermoVape,

SF Giant

Reluctant vape collector
biojuggernaut said:
Which one would be the best to purchase to use with glass?
the standard one fits snugly inside your average vape tubing, i cut a 1/2" piece and butted the mouthpiece right up to my gong adapter and it worked like a charm
 
SF Giant,

VaporNinja

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Futuretvowner said:
Ok I ordered mine late last night when will I get my tracking info?

did u get your tracking info yet? I also ordered last night. Too bad the post office will be closed this Monday :ugh:
 
VaporNinja,

zmurder

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VaporNinja said:
Futuretvowner said:
Ok I ordered mine late last night when will I get my tracking info?

did u get your tracking info yet? I also ordered last night. Too bad the post office will be closed this Monday :ugh:

Yes Futuretvowner did!!

Futuretvowner said:
Nvm just got the email literally right after I posted this great service!

Why you guys are posting on this forum about tracking numbers is beyond me
 
zmurder,

VaporNinja

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I just found some cool RCR123A battery case :cool:

tenergy_case_1.jpg


http://www.ivapour-elixir.co.uk/new-products/18650-rcr123a-battery-case.html
 
VaporNinja,

mari

Member
Hello, I wish to congratulate the ThermoVape crew on an excellent design, and the perseverance to see it through to production! I greatly admire your work and your open participation in the forums.

Please expedite arrangements for a European distributor and/or re-seller.

Cheers!
 
mari,

ThermoVape

Vaporizer Manufacturer
Manufacturer
mari said:
Hello, I wish to congratulate the ThermoVape crew on an excellent design, and the perseverance to see it through to production! I greatly admire your work and your open participation in the forums.

Please expedite arrangements for a European distributor and/or re-seller.

Cheers!

Please send us your suggestions for a euro distributor, we would be more then interested.

Thank you for your kind words.
 
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