Discontinued ThermoVape Revolution for concentrates

[OF]

So no-go on the acetone cleaning? If I can't get this thing clean and working it's basically throw-away time at this point.

I'd hold on for a bit, Joe, and give TV a chance to get back here. Then I'd contact them off line before throwing anything away. I recall some talk about stronger solvents, but what that list might include and what it might hold for you in terms useful solvents I've no idea. Let them make that call?

And it should be possible to rebuild your unit. I've seen Tim do it a couple of times. It takes special tools to open and close it again, of course, but once the ceramic is removed it can be heated to very high temperatures to 'flame off' almost anything that might be there. One of mine came out looking 'brand new' even. This was at a time when he was tweaking prototype heaters for me, I doubt it's a routine service, but it's clearly possible. Given the high cost of the labor to make the heater element and high materials costs of the ceramic elements recycled this way, perhaps they'll offer rebuilds?

OF

 

[JoeKickass]

I'd hold on for a bit, Joe, and give TV a chance to get back here. Then I'd contact them off line before throwing anything away. I recall some talk about stronger solvents, but what that list might include and what it might hold for you in terms useful solvents I've no idea. Let them make that call?

And it should be possible to rebuild your unit. I've seen Tim do it a couple of times. It takes special tools to open and close it again, of course, but once the ceramic is removed it can be heated to very high temperatures to 'flame off' almost anything that might be there. One of mine came out looking 'brand new' even. This was at a time when he was tweaking prototype heaters for me, I doubt it's a routine service, but it's clearly possible. Given the high cost of the labor to make the heater element and high materials costs of the ceramic elements recycled this way, perhaps they'll offer rebuilds?

OF

Oh ok I had a feeling they had the technology, I just didn't know if they actually wanted a used rev coming at them through the mail. I the best I can clean it right now still leaves pretty evident black crud in some spots... but I can also see the little cracks and pore in the ceramic. I have a feeling I did something heinous to the underside of the ceramic when I filled it too much, I keep picturing this enormous black scab oozing vapor out it's pores...

 

[jambandphan03]

There is a 3 mo warranty on the heat cores correct?

 

[PB88123]

There is a 3 mo warranty on the heat cores correct?

Correct.

 

[OF]

Oh ok I had a feeling they had the technology, I just didn't know if they actually wanted a used rev coming at them through the mail. I the best I can clean it right now still leaves pretty evident black crud in some spots... but I can also see the little cracks and pore in the ceramic. I have a feeling I did something heinous to the underside of the ceramic when I filled it too much, I keep picturing this enormous black scab oozing vapor out it's pores...

That, I think, is the issue. It's different if I drive it over and stand there while they work on it as it's in my possession the whole time. A touchy area, for sure, one I'm sure everyone respects. I suggest we let 'em chew on it for a while. Prolly even want to chat a bit with the Lawyer???

OF

 

[havealight101]

My Dart, 4 days old, bit the dust....

 

[JoeKickass]

My Dart, 4 days old, bit the dust....

 

[ThermoVape]

My Dart, 4 days old, bit the dust....

It is completely covered by our warranty. Please send us an email (info@thermovape.com, please include your order number) and we will get a replacement shipped right to you tommorow.


Tim has a system for reclaiming concentrate that he can share. So you can rescue anything left in the revolution when it perished.

Hope that helps.

ThermoVape

 

[Sir]

Alright, I just ended up hitting my revolution with some lavender essential oil. Personally, I don't much care for the taste, but it is fairly soothing. I'm just not used to the revolution yet. I wish there was a user guide for it.

 

[JoeKickass]

It is completely covered by our warranty. Please send us an email (info@thermovape.com, please include your order number) and we will get a replacement shipped right to you tommorow.


Tim has a system for reclaiming concentrate that he can share. So you can rescue anything left in the revolution when it perished.

Hope that helps.

ThermoVape

Should I do the same or attempt an acetone wash?

So I don't know if it's my oil or the fact that I added too much that first time, but my Dart doesn't seem to want to get it's act together.

I've been doing extended cleaning sessions (hours of sonic iso bath and boiling) but it keeps acting clogged and scabbed even though the surface looks dry and ready for more. I kid you not, it takes more than a minute to preheat. And I just can't get the vapor I used to.

Is there something more powerful that I can clean with? Acetone?
Can I exchange for a new one TV?

 

[havealight101]

It is completely covered by our warranty. Please send us an email (info@thermovape.com, please include your order number) and we will get a replacement shipped right to you tommorow.


Tim has a system for reclaiming concentrate that he can share. So you can rescue anything left in the revolution when it perished.

Hope that helps.

ThermoVape

Thank you. I already replied to Jennifer by email. Should I forward it to that email address also?

 

[Pipes]

OK, don't laugh.....
I have just tried a couple things to improve the feel of the switch.
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Don't laugh now.
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The Button Mod......Literally.
I can hear the "WTF ...LOL" Happening...hehe
Looks funny I know. Feels great and opens the door to customizing your own.
I just used an actual button, cause that's what I had around. Can't see way any emblem, logo, initial etc. couldn't be used as well. (Just need a couple holes) I stripped a piece of twist tie and threaded it around the slider and through the holes, a couple twists, back down the holes and wrapped around as not to poke your thumb.
The rocky feeling is kind of cool but still feels have plenty of push power avaliable.
Only have to do the mounting when whole sleeve is removed but only takes a couple minutes.
My first idea was to use a piece of thick rubber tape which worked and seemed not too too bad but did work it's way up the sleeve with continuous use. Just kept pushing back down. Good for a day or so but this button mod helpfully should last till I need to do a complete cleaning.

Pipes

 

[jambandphan03]

See, the thumb pad is a good idea, button mod is the first stage of development. I keep seeing a piece of derlin shaped like a curved oval so it "hugs" the chamber, and has a couple of pegs shaped in shuch a way that they "grab" or sort of lock into the hole after being put in, so they won't just slip out. A couple of holes in the sleeve for them to mate into, It can be done!! hahaha Nice effort there Pipes!

Here is a very crude, and fast attempt to draw my idea... worth looking into?? I don't know how hard it is to fabricate the derlin parts, but it seems worth a shot at putting this out there anyway.
...and if not this peg idea, maybe something that hugs the sleeve inside the grooves, as the wire does in the button mod...

 

[Pipes]

See, the thumb pad is a good idea, button mod is the first stage of development. I keep seeing a piece of derlin shaped like a curved oval so it "hugs" the chamber, and has a couple of pegs shaped in shuch a way that they "grab" or sort of lock into the hole after being put in, so they won't just slip out. A couple of holes in the sleeve for them to mate into, It can be done!! hahaha Nice effort there Pipes!

Thanks Jamba,
I like it. Let's get those gears turning. You got me thinking with the hole idea. Maybe a slot so the added piece can hook onto it. I was avoiding doing any mod that actually changes the unit physically.
Definitely a work in progress. I have to say the rocking or teetering feeling is awesome as you can angle it a bit for that extra push.
As for TV, it leaves a great spot to have us users attach that green leaf logo of theirs.
Also, with the teeter tooter effect, it keeps the temperature down for the old thumb.

 

[jambandphan03]

yeah the hole can be a slot, actually I was seeing a rectangle slot in my head... take it a step further, if the textured part could be more rubbery, and have more of a cling to your skin, that might take it over the top, but we don't want to get too far outside of what is practical, and easy to reproduce. At the very least made of a textured derlin instead of slick finish, like the caps to the evo, they have a "rough" feel to them.

I stuck the TV Logo on the picture haha

 

[Pipes]

If TV gets on board I think we have the ultimate solution.
I know the sleeve is not magnetic which was actually my first though never re-visited.
SO just for the heck of it I just put a magnet up to it. Guess what, although the sleeve itself has no magnetic characteristics the batteries DO.....yes....
All that's needed is a super magnet made with the matching grooves of the sleeve. This can be the basic base. From there the designing can go crazy. Of course this means it would have to come off to replace the batteries. Or it would be like getting the pepper out in a restaurant.
Now I don't think this would affect the battery output?????? Stranger things have happened.
Think we are close now.
Any thoughts from TV?

 

[Bob Loblaw]

anyone able to help me real quick w/ a tv question?
lookin' at the apha ultra and ultra light and can't tell the difference other that batteries provided
anything else i should know?

gotcha, slightly different sizes, therefore battery life.

 

[JoeKickass]

anyone able to help me real quick w/ a tv question?
lookin' at the apha ultra and ultra light and can't tell the difference other that batteries provided
anything else i should know?

gotcha, slightly different sizes, therefore battery life.

Would recommend their 17670 body as a minimum, I bought an alpha ultra but it doesn't get used anymore because it gets way too hot even with just the revolution and the bare metal tarnishes in a week.

 

[Pipes]

Here is a very crude, and fast attempt to draw my idea... worth looking into?? I don't know how hard it is to fabricate the derlin parts, but it seems worth a shot at putting this out there anyway.
...and if not this peg idea, maybe something that hugs the sleeve inside the grooves, as the wire does in the button mod...

Just saw your edited post. Nice artwork. Love the TV logo. Not sure about room for those clips. When you described it to me I envisioned the clips on the sides which might fit between the grooves and slide with the sleeve. A little flex to install. And edited your pic to reflect how I interpreted your description.

Funny how some see things different.
Good stuff.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Would recommend their 17670 body as a minimum, I bought an alpha ultra but it doesn't get used anymore because it gets way too hot even with just the revolution and the bare metal tarnishes in a week.

'preciate the feedback joe. i went with the rev main unit and an ultra (not lite).
will post reviews and comparisons when it arrives.

 

[havealight101]

Hey TV, I'm in checkout trying to order a second Dart to come along w/my replacement one. I have the mothers day code in and I want to use my refund credit of 9.99 that Jennifer issued me. Obviously you can't use 2 codes online at once... So my question is, can my code be added tomorrow at the office if I order tonight? Or can I call in tomorrow and still get the Mday discount? Any help is much appreciated.

 

[NewSchoolExplorer]

I hope they answer you soon bro.

I was wondering will the TV Evo Interface work on with a DART?
http://thermovape.com/collections/all/products/evolution-interface

I just like the idea of not having to deal with the heat transfer that I currently get when I use sesh?

 

[ThermoVape]

Hey TV, I'm in checkout trying to order a second Dart to come along w/my replacement one. I have the mothers day code in and I want to use my refund credit of 9.99 that Jennifer issued me. Obviously you can't use 2 codes online at once... So my question is, can my code be added tomorrow at the office if I order tonight? Or can I call in tomorrow and still get the Mday discount? Any help is much appreciated.

We can make an adjustment at the office to make sure you are getting taken care of.

Cheers,


ThermoVape

 

[jambandphan03]

Just saw your edited post. Nice artwork. Love the TV logo. Not sure about room for those clips. When you described it to me I envisioned the clips on the sides which might fit between the grooves and slide with the sleeve. A little flex to install. And edited your pic to reflect how I interpreted your description.

Funny how some see things different.
Good stuff.

Well, the pad has to be able to withstand being pushed up and down, that's why I thought tabs, Of course nothing about my "drawing" is to scale, and spacing would have to be carefully considered. I'm still convinced tabs with low enough profile to just slip under the "slot" in the sleeve and still have enough room inside for the batteries to fit would be possible, I just don't have the patience to draw it all up to speck at the moment. Since we are talking hypothetical... if the "ring grip" idea can be made in a way that will take the pressure of all the movement and not just fall off, that is also another way to try to go, too. This is the way to make ideas reality...

 

[Pipes]

I hope they answer you soon bro.

I was wondering will the TV Evo Interface work on with a DART?
http://thermovape.com/collections/all/products/evolution-interface

I just like the idea of not having to deal with the heat transfer that I currently get when I use sesh?

NOTE: If any owners of an Evolution Kit, would rather have the insulted interface rather than the rounded interface just let use know. We will exchange them, free of charge (the rounded interface is better if you also use it for cartridges such as our Revolution, or AVA atomizer as the built in fluid well prevents leaking).

Email info@thermovape with your order number and Evolution Insulated Interface in the subject line. We will ship you the insulated interface and a return envelope for the rounded interface to send back to us.

Cheers,
Tim