Discontinued ThermoVape Evolution

[Futuretvowner]

Say you have 100 people. Everyone likes different things.



In my experience I've had the T1 for 5 months and still using the same 12 batteries. It's working like the day I got it so it's not flawed. There is no reason to warn people about a business getting as many different options out there to reach a large group of people.

That is your personal experience though there are MANY others who have voiced there opinion in the T1 thread that have had a very different experience. You are lucky you have been happy with your T1. If I was happy with my T1 i wouldn't be complaining right now...

 

[JoeKickass]

i suppose with TV you have to know that something new is just around the corner when purchasing something. im ok with it.

I think this is true for every active company. The only time this isn't true is when you have some cheap novelty gadget made by a company that doesn't exist anymore. Even companies that make bone-simple, non-electrical, tools always come out with new materials and manufacturing techniques.

Be glad you aren't into modifying cars, in that case you pay money just to reduce the resale value some more lol

 

[Futuretvowner]

I am entitled to my opinion so I don't want to respond to anymore posts about people trying to explain reasons why my opinion is wrong. I think that if you are the type of person who doesn't like a newer, better, cheaper version of the device you are going to purchase to come out within the next couple of months than TV isn't for you.

 

[2clicker]

Look I bought an ipad 2 in december and the ipad 3 was scheduled to come out a couple of months later. I was ok with that because I knew the Ipad 2 would suit all of my needs. The T1 does not suit all of my needs so that is why it is just an extra kick in the gut to know there is a newer, cheaper version out that would suit my needs.

i guess my advice would be to let others be early adopters and make a decision based off of their feedback. i held off on the T1 due to the battery life and the non stir factor. i waited until someone came out with a different device that seemed better for my needs. it just so happened to be TV again with the Evo.

ive never even used a T1.

easy on the font size there eh?

 

[Futuretvowner]

i guess my advice would be to let others be early adopters and make a decision based off of their feedback. i held off on the T1 due to the battery life and the non stir factor. i waited until someone came out with a different device that seemed better for my needs. it just so happened to be TV again with the Evo.

ive never even used a T1.

Yeah my main gripe was that I purchased my t1 before it was known that any of those problems existed, or else I would have made the same decision as you.

 

[2clicker]

Yeah my main gripe was that I purchased my t1 before it was known that any of those problems existed, or else I would have made the same decision as you.

exactly. you said you are more the wait until the newer better stuff comes out. so why did you jump on the T1 before you knew anything about how it would perform?

 

[Futuretvowner]

exactly. you said you are more the wait until the newer better stuff comes out. so why did you jump on the T1 before you knew anything about how it would perform?

Oh when I bought the T1 it said on the website that each set of batteries would last 20 minutes. I figured that would equal at least 3-4 bowls on one set of batteries so I jumped and bought the device.

 

[Futuretvowner]

I also watched all of the videos and fell in love with the simplicity and elegance of the T1. If it wasn't for the current battery technology that would be quite a device. It's like putting a 1920 engine in a ferrari or somethin

 

[OF]

Sure, and after that month or 2, something new might come out, right? So why not wait 4 or even 6 months instead? If you live by that, you'll never be satisfied with what you have (or won't even have anything to be satisfied with).

Excellent point. It's a risk. You make a decision about taking that risk. Some guys will take personal responsibility for their decision when it doesn't work out as they'd wished, others won't. People differ.

So the decision to 'wait and see' or to cast your lot with the early adopters in the hopes of longer service is really best left to the individual I think. The real problem is if somehow someone else's opinion got in the way of that happening and they either get scared off a useful product they would have enjoyed, or pressured into wasting their money on one they don't.

But I also still feel most guys are happy with their pay up to the point they find out what other guys are making. Nothing really changes, except their perception.

They are just trying to make different products so that there are more options and people can pick the best device for them.

They can't make everyone happy but they are trying.

In my experience I've had the T1 for 5 months and still using the same 12 batteries. It's working like the day I got it so it's not flawed. There is no reason to warn people about a business getting as many different options out there to reach a large group of people.

I think this too is an excellent point. Few makers of anything seem to do their 'market research' anything but top down. TV depends heavily on flesh and blood customers and as I see it actively seeks input and supports experimentation with their products. They are attempting to anticipate the demand as it develops and be in a position to fill that demand, IMO we need more of that, not less. I too see no special need to warn people away from that sort of company, rather the opposite. I think we should encourage them to make more and more offerings and encourage each other to try them out when we can. Nobody is forced to buy what's offered. If the price, features, color, hit count, battery type, shipper, name, or any other aspect doesn't suit them they can take their money to the next fellow.

I like that system. But that's only my opinion, no more or less valuable than the next.

Thanks for your opinions, both PB and CM. I appreciate them.

OF

 

[Futuretvowner]

Excellent point. It's a risk. You make a decision about taking that risk. Some guys will take personal responsibility for their decision when it doesn't work out as they'd wished, others won't. People differ.

So the decision to 'wait and see' or to cast your lot with the early adopters in the hopes of longer service is really best left to the individual I think. The real problem is if somehow someone else's opinion got in the way of that happening and they either get scared off a useful product they would have enjoyed, or pressured into wasting their money on one they don't.

But I also still feel most guys are happy with their pay up to the point they find out what other guys are making. Nothing really changes, except their perception.



I think this too is an excellent point. Few makers of anything seem to do their 'market research' anything but top down. TV depends heavily on flesh and blood customers and as I see it actively seeks input and supports experimentation with their products. They are attempting to anticipate the demand as it develops and be in a position to fill that demand, IMO we need more of that, not less. I too see no special need to warn people away from that sort of company, rather the opposite. I think we should encourage them to make more and more offerings and encourage each other to try them out when we can. Nobody is forced to buy what's offered. If the price, features, color, hit count, battery type, shipper, name, or any other aspect doesn't suit them they can take their money to the next fellow.

I like that system. But that's only my opinion, no more or less valuable than the next.

Thanks for your opinions, both PB and CM. I appreciate them.

OF

You obviously have the money to spend on a bunch of different devices though, not everyone has your financial situation. I would be willing to say you have spent in the upwards of $700+ on TV products but that is just a guess. Not everyone has that kind of luxury, it sucks to have saved for a while and to finally spend sizable amount of money on a device that doesn't suit your needs, or preform at the level you were told it would (see 20 mins per set of charged batteries).

 

[jambandphan03]

I actually went the other rout... and kinda wish I had started with TV, but then I may not have realized how to appreciate the device they make if I had not experienced all the other ones first. Instead of dropping a little over $200 with TV, I decided to take the chance with the AtmosRaw. I knew about TV about the same time I learned about AR. Now that device does not at all compare to the quality of the TV products, but I had to spend the money to find out. I suppose I could have found a head shop that would at least put one in my hands, but the real colors didn't shine through until I used it a few times.

Then I got the Solo, a true vaporizer, which I really enjoy using, it's a wonderful portable vape, but it is in a different class of portables. I feel it is much more delicate, being electronic based, and glass parts, so it doesn't fill the need for the pocket, take it anywhere vape for me. So about $400 in, and I am still searching... I also got into Omicron, which fills a specific area of portable and easy oil use, but I wanted a herb vape most of all, since my access to oils is rather limited right now.

Also tried the MFLB a while before I found any of these other portables, and we didn't get along either.

So now we are talking about spending a few hundred dollars to wind up purchasing the Evo, and T1 anyway. Now that I have gone on this walkabout of testing portable vaporizers, I feel pleased with the ruggedness, simplicity, and function of the TV products. They are not perfect, but I'm glad to have the ability to use them. The only point I am making here is that I am glad I have decided to get the TV products. I am happy to think that my money is going towards keeping them in business so they can continue to upgrade and innovate. Everyone has different experiences, and expectations. Live and learn.

 

[Haywood]

Oh nope, the Evo is vastly superior to the T1. A few of us early adopters are just pissed because we feel we were used as beta testers for a flawed product (t1) and now that the new, better, cheaper product is out we are either forced to spend another $100+ or be left in the dust.

Funny, I couldn't feel differently. I'm not in the least bit pissed.

I don't think of my T1 as flawed, even now, and I won't be pissed when I discover my Evo isn't perfect after TV releases the new Bozo model. I got a lot of use and joy from the T1 for four months before the Evo was born. The T1 was the best for me until then (though I really need to give the Evo more time before I decide "for sure" it's better for me). And guess what, I fully expect TV to come out with new stuff that I really want in the future.

I won't be pissed then, either.

ps Maybe if we asked nicely, TV would consider a new cap design for the T1; they have UFO experience now, after all.

 

[Ratm22]

You obviously have the money to spend on a bunch of different devices though, not everyone has your financial situation. I would be willing to say you have spent in the upwards of $700+ on TV products but that is just a guess. Not everyone has that kind of luxury, it sucks to have saved for a while and to finally spend sizable amount of money on a device that doesn't suit your needs, or preform at the level you were told it would (see 20 mins per set of charged batteries).

What planet are you from. This is Earth and battery tech here is friggin terrible. I would expect a battery not to last for more than a year. So it burns through batteries, and your upset? I don't think my MFLB would last 20 minutes on. Atleast you have an the option to change the battery some vapes are propreitary.

I feel your pain of not getting the vape you were hoping for, but its time to move on pass the vape off to some one who will appreciate it. HTFU. You left your mark against them and we will be all the more wary to double check their products.

And wtf is a TV? is that some sort of box that you stare at but don't get to interact, but pay expensive fees to see commercials?

 

[Futuretvowner]

Funny, I couldn't feel differently. I'm not in the least bit pissed.

I don't think of my T1 as flawed, even now, and I won't be pissed when I discover my Evo isn't perfect after TV releases the new Bozo model. I got a lot of use and joy from the T1 for four months before the Evo was born. The T1 was the best for me until then (though I really need to give the Evo more time before I decide "for sure" it's better for me). And guess what, I fully expect TV to come out with new stuff that I really want in the future.

I won't be pissed then, either.

ps Maybe if we asked nicely, TV would consider a new cap design for the T1; they have UFO experience now, after all.

I am happy that TV will be coming out with new vapes in the future too. I am just not ready to retire a vape that I spent $263 on after 4 months ago and that is what it appears I'm going to have to do.

 

[2clicker]

And wtf is a TV?

TV = Thermo Vape

 

[jambandphan03]

And wtf is a TV? is that some sort of box that you stare at but don't get to interact, but pay expensive fees to see commercials?

TV = ThermoVape

clicker is quicker

 

[2clicker]

I am happy that TV will be coming out with new vapes in the future too. I am just not ready to retire a vape that I spent $263 on after 4 months ago and that is what it appears I'm going to have to do.

youll only need to retire about $130 worth of it as the rest of it is totally modular to whatever else they come out with.

 

[Futuretvowner]

What planet are you from. This is Earth and battery tech here is friggin terrible. I would expect a battery not to last for more than a year. So it burns through batteries, and your upset? I don't think my MFLB would last 20 minutes on. Atleast you have an the option to change the battery some vapes are propreitary.

I feel your pain of not getting the vape you were hoping for, but its time to move on pass the vape off to some one who will appreciate it. HTFU. You left your mark against them and we will be all the more wary to double check their products.

And wtf is a TV? is that some sort of box that you stare at but don't get to interact, but pay expensive fees to see commercials?

If you don't know what a TV is then I don't think you have a right to comment here until you do some research

 

[Haywood]

And wtf is a TV?

In this case, TV probably = ThermoVape.

 

[Futuretvowner]

This is my final statement for tonight and warning to any potential customers. I would seriously reconsider purchasing a TV unless you are willing to shed out a decent amount of money buying upgrades and new pieces a couple of months down the line. I would also avoid the TV if you are looking for a device that will last a year or two without having to shell out some money on replacement parts. Goodnight folks.

 

[Ratm22]

LOLs, thanks guys not sure if you all responded at the same time. Must be to vaped up to get the abbreviation.

 

[jambandphan03]

You don't HAVE to buy upgrades, you can be happy with the one you have and keep your money, or pass it on and look for another... it really is simple.

 

[Futuretvowner]

You don't HAVE to buy upgrades, you can be happy with the one you have and keep your money, or pass it on and look for another... it really is simple.

You will HAVE to buy battery replacements after a certain amount of time. I have had some batteries for 4+ months now and they work but BARELY. If you need some evidence potential buyers just be sure to read the T1 thread and you will see many people who have had to buy replacement batteries. Anyways i'm out for good now. Peace and goodluck.

 

[Stu]

You will HAVE to buy battery replacements after a certain amount of time. I have had some batteries for 4+ months now and they work but BARELY. If you need some evidence potential buyers just be sure to read the T1 thread and you will see many people who have had to buy replacement batteries. Anyways i'm out for good now. Peace and goodluck.

I thought you went to bed.

 

[jambandphan03]

I guess I'm not that bothered by only having to buy replacement batteries that only cost a few dollars ea. instead of having to toss the entire battery unit in the trash, spend another $80+ to get a replacement a few months down the line. 6 in one hand. Sorry you are having a bad time with the battery life.