Discontinued ThermoVape Evolution

[OF]

I have some catching up to do on FC, but quick ?

I just got my smooth flow filter, is there any way to open it?
Doe sit just pull out or unscrew? (doesn't seem to)
Or do you fill it up by dropping stuff in?

EDIT: Using two pliers I managed to twist it open, damn this ceramic is small! I think it could have been much more substantial! Let's see how it likes Vanilla flavored Stolichnaya...

Bummer, I hope it goes back together....

Normally, it's not disassembled. It's pressed together with a fixture at assembly. You load it down the bore. A couple of drops of water at a time, all that will soak in. I just run a bit of water though it in the sink, shake it once or twice and blow through it before calling it good to go. Every two or 3 bowls I recharge it (I can usually feel it get dryer again).

Anyway, I'd carefully try to re assemble it straight without breaking the ceramic (harder to do without the fixture I bet).

Good luck.

OF

 

[JoeKickass]

Bummer, I hope it goes back together....

Normally, it's not disassembled. It's pressed together with a fixture at assembly. You load it down the bore. A couple of drops of water at a time, all that will soak in. I just run a bit of water though it in the sink, shake it once or twice and blow through it before calling it good to go. Every two or 3 bowls I recharge it (I can usually feel it get dryer again).

Anyway, I'd carefully try to re assemble it straight without breaking the ceramic (harder to do without the fixture I bet).

Good luck.

OF

Yeah I figured out I can just take off the mouthpiece and dip it into a shotglass a couple times. (gives me a good excuse to refill ) I opened it up afterwards to see and it was plenty saturated.

I notice the yellowing of the top metal where they must have warmed it up too much but after twisting mine apart I was able to press it back together using my palm and a table. I'll leave it together so I don't wear down the metal, but it's very tight.

I haven't posted in the Revolution thread yet, but long story short brakleen (acetone + heptane version) cleaned my rev to running clear in about 5 minutes. I tried the smooth-flow on the revolution and only noticed mild taste and after-taste not too much cooling, but oil clouds aren't that harsh anyway so it was hard to tell. (and the clean rev is making clouds) I'll try on the evo tomorrow with flavored alchy and water to see how it affects herb vapor, too right now...

 

[ThermoVape]

I have some catching up to do on FC, but quick ?

I just got my smooth flow filter, is there any way to open it?
Doe sit just pull out or unscrew? (doesn't seem to)
Or do you fill it up by dropping stuff in?

EDIT: Using two pliers I managed to twist it open, damn this ceramic is small! I think it could have been much more substantial! But let's see how it likes Vanilla flavored Stolichnaya...

Not intended to be taken apart . You can just fill it by dropping through the included mouthpiece.

For cleaning Isopropyl alcohol soak with a warm water rinse works well, or it can be boiled.

Please leave it together, it is a press fit part, not designed to be repeatable disassembled. If you leave it together it should last a lifetime, nothing to wear out our break, and the ceramic once trapped in the metal housing will not break or degrade.

Looking forward to hearing about the Stoli eceriment!

Cheers,

ThermoVape

 

[Reverend Irreverent]

Ok, I guess I'm convinced that my Evolution LV is not working correctly.

I cannot get more than a whisp of vapor. Most times I get no vapor at all. Doesn't matter if I let it warm up 17 or 30 seconds, or pull like I'm on my MFLB or like I'm sucking up a McDonalds milkshake. The unit gets very hot and after the 5th or 6th pull, the botanical tastes done and is a very light brown, still having green flecks. I have never been close to combustion, no dark brown or black flecks ever.

I'm grinding to a med-fine grind (not grains of sugar sized like the MFLB-slightly larger), filling (not packing to the top), putting the ring on the last groove before the bottom, pressing the cap down all the way in a turning motion to ensure the ring doesn't move. Then I have waited from 17 to 30 seconds before I take that initial 20 sec slow hit. And I get a very small whispy hit. I can taste it, but absolutely no feeling of an inhale. Then I've taken huge and small hits, fast and slow and never see any vapor or feel like I've inhaled anything other than warm air.

Am I the only one? Do I have a faulty unit?

 

[jambandphan03]

You sound like your doing all the proper techniques, I'd contact TV directly and discuss it with them.

 

[ThermoVape]

You are thinking like me

I really want to run the 18650. I'd order the appropriate evolution and convert my T1. I'm so incredibly happy with the T1, but I want to upgrade to more sessions per battery. Everything else is fantastic. I mean I COULD spend $30 on the water pipe adapter for it, but at that point its only $30 more for the evo with the water pipe adapter built in. Decisions decisions. I wish I knew more about their 18650 they are testing. I can confidently say that if I order some other e-cig that holds an 18650, they will release theirs immediately after haha. Its a loose loose waiting game, but at least I end up with a nice quality american made vape while I'm waiting.

We will only build an 18650 base that is completely compatible with all ThermoVape T1, Revolution, Evolution, Liquid Vaporizer compatible, and Apex Alpha UltraMax interfaces.

If you have any those above products you would only need to purchase the lower section (battery sleeve, body, and Delrin insulating sleeve), and you would have a second base that you could engage any of the ThermoVape interfaces and associated vaporizers to.

We understand that a 18650 ThermoVape is something that people want, and we are actively working on it.

We do feel that RCR LiFePO batteries, either Tenergy or AW at 6 volts , is a very desirable power source for convection vaporization purposes. We will feel that is still the optimal set-up for your average person.

That said we know that many of you are using our other vaporizers, Revolutions, Liquid Vaporizers, Evolution - Lv's and you need the larger capacity of the 18650. We will deliver that in the not too distant future, 1-2 months at the earliest. Purely mechanical, precision machined, and made right here in the USA. Should be a nice addition to the family.

We love making products based on all of your requests, although it pains us to talk about products we can not yet put into your hands (we are an impatient group) your feedback and suggestions help shape our products, it is much appreciated. We are listening .

Hope that helps.

Cheers,

ThermoVape

 

[Slightly Medicated]

One of the things I like so much about your product is the modular design of it. It reminds me of those toy race cars that you could switch the tiers, axles, and other stuff out to change the way it performs. I am looking forward to the T1 and the Revolution DART and Window.

 

[Peloton]

So I'm sitting here, trying to decide which I like more the T1 or the Evo. I keep vaping bowls back and forth between them, but I can't quite come to a conclusion

Pretty stoked to hear the news. Exciting times ahead. But what ever happened to the long rumored passthrough? It doesn't even have to be usb-driven, just offer an option for a 12v car plug also.

 

[jambandphan03]

So I'm sitting here, trying to decide which I like more the T1 or the Evo. I keep vaping bowls back and forth between them, but I can't quite come to a conclusion

Pretty stoked to hear the news. Exciting times ahead. But what ever happened to the long rumored passthrough? It doesn't even have to be usb-driven, just offer an option for a 12v car plug also.

I am right there with you, I like them both for different reasons. Each has their own personality.

 

[Slightly Medicated]

I am right there with you, I like them both for different reasons. Each has their own personality.

can you elaborate more on that?

 

[jambandphan03]

T1 seems to pack a bigger punch, and gets me medicated much faster/heavier than the Evo in just a couple of hits, which is good in some cases, but can be a little too much in others. It doesn't give as long of a session on one set of batteries, but I generally can't get more than 3-4 hits before needing to put it down. The Evo vapes a little slower, and more evenly, so I can sip at it, and take my time getting fully medicated, that way I don't over do it and have to ride it out. I also find the Evo has more flavor to enjoy, since it heats slower. I like to vape through out the day, so it works better for satisfying the habit of regular toking.

 

[ThermoVape]

One of the things I like so much about your product is the modular design of it. It reminds me of those toy race cars that you could switch the tiers, axles, and other stuff out to change the way it performs. I am looking forward to the T1 and the Revolution DART and Window.

Thank you. Much appreciated. We like to think of at the "Choose Your Own Adventure" vaporizer.

Cheers,

ThermoVape

 

[B.]

^^ those were my favorite

 

[darkrom]

My understanding is that any alterations that allow the Evo to operate on an 18650 will be retroactive. In other words, any Evo bought today will be able to be modded to function on an 18650 once that happens. That's my understanding of what TV has said in the past and is one reason why I went ahead and bought my Evo rather than waiting for the 18650 announcement.

Ok that is comforting. I'm aware I'm probably sounding like I'm not reading any of this, but sadly I am and I'm just having trouble keeping up/grasping it since I never looked into batteries or e-cigs before I got my TV.

So I guess my next question is if I plan on using the 18650 down the line, and I have the T1 now, do I want the LV evo or the 6V evo?

 

[Peloton]

The LV one would think, the 18650 is a 3.7v cell

 

[jambandphan03]

yeah, the 18650 is 3.7v, so you would want the LV version. I have no idea if TV is going to develop some kind of LV T1 style, as of now, the T1 is strictly 6v. If you have the T1 now, you would need to get the 17670 battery and charger, and insulated interface to run the Evo LV, unless you go for another kit. In the long run though, you would be able to upgrade to the future 18650 model.

 

[darkrom]

Thank you. Much appreciated. We like to think of at the "Choose Your Own Adventure" vaporizer.

Cheers,

ThermoVape

I just need help deciding where my adventure needs to go from here I have the T1 and love it, but I want to supplement it with an evolution add on for more hits. What are my options already owning the T1? I really can't seem to grasp what is different between the LV and the 6V evolution and why I'd want one over the other. Do they both work with the T1 setup I have now just unscrew? I'm just going to let you guys recommend me a setup for a T1 to evo conversion lol. The T1 has the powerful hits but 1 bowl per set of batteries. I guess I want the evo that works with my T1 to give me the most hits possible on a single charge as the 2nd part of my adventure. I'd like to just buy them all and learn as I go and experiment, but I can't afford that sadly. Only 1 evo for me for now, thats why I'm being such a pain in the ass about picking the right one for my setup.

 

[PB88123]

I just need help deciding where my adventure needs to go from here I have the T1 and love it, but I want to supplement it with an evolution add on for more hits. What are my options already owning the T1? I really can't seem to grasp what is different between the LV and the 6V evolution and why I'd want one over the other. Do they both work with the T1 setup I have now just unscrew? I'm just going to let you guys recommend me a setup for a T1 to evo conversion lol. The T1 has the powerful hits but 1 bowl per set of batteries. I guess I want the evo that works with my T1 to give me the most hits possible on a single charge as the 2nd part of my adventure. I'd like to just buy them all and learn as I go and experiment, but I can't afford that sadly. Only 1 evo for me for now, thats why I'm being such a pain in the ass about picking the right one for my setup.

You can unscrew the T1 core and screw in the 6v EVO and get 15 hits with the same batteries as the T1. It's around 4-5 more hits. It's 20 watts (EVO 6V) compared to the 30 watts T1.

 

[darkrom]

yeah, the 18650 is 3.7v, so you would want the LV version. I have no idea if TV is going to develop some kind of LV T1 style, as of now, the T1 is strictly 6v. If you have the T1 now, you would need to get the 17670 battery and charger, and insulated interface to run the Evo LV, unless you go for another kit. In the long run though, you would be able to upgrade to the future 18650 model.

So with the T1 "base" I can only run the 6V evo? I thought I remembered reading that. But if the 18650 works only on 3.7v, and 3.7v doesn't work on the T1 base, doesn't that mean the 18650 is actually NOT going to be backwards compatible with the T1? Unless maybe they have some kind of T1-LV like you said in the works? But right now there's actually no way to run a 18650 on a T1 base if I am understanding correctly (finally )?

So if the above is correct besides being bummed out that I'd need a new vape because I only have the T1 "base", I should be looking up more info specifically with the T1 base paired with the Evo. Would I only be able to use the same Tenergy batteries that come with the T1? I remember reading that it wasn't worth it (in one person's opinion..I forget who) that it wouldn't really be worth upgrading a T1 to an Evo 6v?


Anyone running the T1 base with 6v Evo? How many bowls do you personally get out of it? I'm definitely looking for the most bowls per charge because I think that will complement the T1's heavy power nicely.

 

[jambandphan03]

If you have a low spending margin and want to use the batteries/charger you already have, the I would get:
http://thermovape.com/collections/b...volution-convection-vaporizer-cartridge-black ( assuming you have black, if not go for the white one)
If you just planned to keep it that simple, you will be good from there.

If you don't mind spending a little more $ to complete the unit, you could add this:http://thermovape.com/collections/botanical-convection-vaporizers-parts/products/evolution-interface
It connects to the battery chamber and insulates the Evo from heating up the battery as fast, and completes the look of the Evo.

At this point, I wouldn't worry about the 3.7v, if you are trying to be thrifty. It may be a while before the 18650 battery is ready to go, and you could always save up and get the LV version later on if you really want to.

This is just my do with it what you will, I hope it helps.

 

[jambandphan03]

So with the T1 "base" I can only run the 6V evo? I thought I remembered reading that. But if the 18650 works only on 3.7v, and 3.7v doesn't work on the T1 base, doesn't that mean the 18650 is actually NOT going to be backwards compatible with the T1? Unless maybe they have some kind of T1-LV like you said in the works? But right now there's actually no way to run a 18650 on a T1 base if I am understanding correctly (finally )?

So if the above is correct besides being bummed out that I'd need a new vape because I only have the T1 "base", I should be looking up more info specifically with the T1 base paired with the Evo. Would I only be able to use the same Tenergy batteries that come with the T1? I remember reading that it wasn't worth it (in one person's opinion..I forget who) that it wouldn't really be worth upgrading a T1 to an Evo 6v?


Anyone running the T1 base with 6v Evo? How many bowls do you personally get out of it? I'm definitely looking for the most bowls per charge because I think that will complement the T1's heavy power nicely.

You can run the T1 base on the 17670 3.7v battery, that's not a problem, so you can get the LV and use the T1 base, but you will need to get the batteries and charger as well to go with it. All it means is you won't be using the lifepo4 batteries that came with your T1

 

[darkrom]

You can unscrew the T1 core and screw in the 6v EVO and get 15 hits with the same batteries as the T1. It's around 4-5 more hits. It's 20 watts (EVO 6V) compared to the 30 watts T1.

Thanks that is what I was thinking. I don't know that 4-5 more hits is going to mean much difference in the end. I think thats what MAYBE 2 bowls with the evo as opposed to the 1 with the TV? Might make more sense to live with more batteries at that point for me but I'm not sure yet. Still planning.

I hear of people getting 4+ bowls per charge...that must be with the LV right? Can someone suggest a setup for the LV with maybe some other brand "base" but only one that is CONFIRMED to work with the LV well? I have no use for e-cigs besides the LV, so as impressive as it is, I can't afford a collection like Jam's haha.

 

[darkrom]

You can run the T1 base on the 17670 3.7v battery, that's not a problem, so you can get the LV and use the T1 base, but you will need to get the batteries and charger as well to go with it. All it means is you won't be using the lifepo4 batteries that came with your T1

Hmmm do you run this setup yourself ever? How many bowls can you get from the 17670 roughly?

So that would be new battery and charger, LV evo and that's all I'd need?

Maybe I should just be asking a more simple question to you since you have a nice collection... "what is the current best setup for the LV evo for someone concerned almost entirely with number of bowls on a single charge. The one thing I will not compromise on though is safety so nothing that will be bypassing any safety features.

Thanks for taking the time to explain this all over and over. This goes to everyone in this thread.

 

[t-dub]

darkrom, I think this video will help clear up all this battery/volts/ohms/watts nonsense, I know it helped me when I was learning from Dr. Horace Power, at Ford, about torque

 

[jambandphan03]

Right now, I can run the LV Evo with the 17670 battery and get about 2 loads before it needs to be changed out. I am using the body for the T1 w/ the insulated interface. I am not sure which of the ecig mods out there are up to the challenge of running this thing properly, so I can't help you with that one, other than to say I use my lil'chuck (by Thag Built) to run the Evo LV on the 18350 battery and get one bowl per charge, so that isn't going to help your situation.

If you only have the T1 and 3.0v lifepo4 batteries, then you would be best to get at least 2 of the 17670 batteries and a charger. I use an Xtar charger, it's fast, but the one TV sells does work just fine.