Discontinued Thermovape Cera

Sonics420

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the ones that shipped with TET 18650/2250mah

TheRobbo said:
If any of you are having trouble making visible vapour make sure the set screws are in properly. Although also make sure you dont over tighten.

Do you think this can be my problem?


I tried again, loaded, held for 30 seconds, power inhale and exhale a few times.. all i get is little yellow spots on my green..im hitting it like the solo, hitting it like the pax.. trying to use the DBV method.. nothing so far..

and again... the bottom switch got hot enough to actually burn me.. couldnt even hold the cera any more.. the battery light was green, right now im charging them again after messing with the cera.. hopefully i can get somethin out of this..
 
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nopartofme

Over the falls, in a barrel
Hot switch doesn't sound right. Mine has never gotten hot down there… Heat should always migrate down from the core. IME it's never gotten hot below the safety pin holes.
 

Sonics420

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not really long.. fiddling with it for like 3 minutes makes it hot enough to the point i just set it down.. the switch and core get really hot for me..

Hot switch doesn't sound right. Mine has never gotten hot down there… Heat should always migrate down from the core. IME it's never gotten hot below the safety pin holes.
damn i kinda knew it, there was no way this thing couldnt give off vapor, it just looks sick and well built... guess i gotta put it to rest for the night until i can speak to someone @ thermovape.
 
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Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
not really long.. fiddling with it for like 3 minutes makes it hot enough to the point i just set it down.. the switch and core get really hot for me..


damn i kinda knew it, there was no way this thing couldnt give off vapor, it just looks sick and well built... guess i gotta put it to rest for the night until i can speak to someone @ thermovape.
Send them an email right now so they see it tomorrow morning. I think another person had the same problem of no vapor and an odd switch... new switch and they were happy as hell.
 

iamn3ko

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Well my switch works fine.

So, now that I bring my Cera to work. It's SUPPOSED to keep me medicated. But I leave for work, go to medicate and can't get any vapor, or effects for that matter. Just wastes my weed.

Anyways, after being frustrated with this thing, and going to work all day, unmediated and frustrated. I get off work and go to try it again, does the same thing, can't get vapor, and it's just wasting my weed and battery.

SO, I poured the rest of my already vaped weed into a cigarette and smoked it, and look who got stoned finally after a long unmedicated day at work!

2/10 times I can only get Vapor my 1ST hit of the bowl from the LL Cera.

That other 8/10 times, produces barely a wisp of vapor.


So out of the already many times I have TRIED to use the LL, I've gotten 3 'decent' hits.



I managed to get good vapor the very first hit I ever took on it, and since then it's gotten a lot worse.


I'm trying not to blow up and throw this $500 ceramic tube away, but so far that's what it seems like it is.

Not talking shit, please don't take it that way. This is just SO FUCKING FRUSTRATING, and I'm having problems, like most of the LL users it seems.
 
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Pipes

Addicted DIY Enthusiast
Accessory Maker
not really long.. fiddling with it for like 3 minutes makes it hot enough to the point i just set it down.. the switch and core get really hot for me..

damn i kinda knew it, there was no way this thing couldnt give off vapor, it just looks sick and well built... guess i gotta put it to rest for the night until i can speak to someone @ thermovape.

You could try one of the lesser aggressive mods to confirm the theory of a bad switch. You would sleep better. :D

I improved upon my little mod switch. I used a paper clip and needle nose pliers. I see people are starting to make their own. I'd like to see more. I really like jdee's thumb switch. Hey jdee how is that holding up btw. Also those of you who are using different batteries what are your thoughts so far in comparison with the original stock ones. Thanks.

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The bottom here is a simple thing to try. Ignore the upper switch part. I believe jdee said it was from a cart container lid. He explained it in a later post.
I made a thumb activated momentary switch that can be latched, check it out :science:
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Tweek

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Hot switch doesn't sound right. Mine has never gotten hot down there… Heat should always migrate down from the core. IME it's never gotten hot below the safety pin holes.

My switch does eventually build a little heat around where the battery hits the spring. Core is hot as well...I don't know if it necessarily denotes a problem.
 
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PB88123

Vaporist
Not talking shit, please don't take it that way. This is just SO FUCKING FRUSTRATING, and I'm having problems, like most of the LL users it seems.

I would clean, package up the whole unit and ship it back to TET. Alert them to what is going on and to expect a package. Have them try using it. Then they can figure out what to do and then send you a working unit.

Who knows if it is a switch problem, cartridge problem, battery problem. Sounds like most cartridges look like they are working but some how the air is not being heated hot enough to produce vapor? Then the heat gets transferred to the body quickly. So something inside is not working the way it is intended. One would think a person would try inhaling so many different ways that one of the ways should work and work every time.
 

Sonics420

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Ah, so! Thanks. What I would call 'constant on' or something? Cool.

There are a lot of ways. What you need to do is connect the bottom of the battery (or the spring) to the metal threads on the cap. I folded some foil up, four layers thick IIRC and shoved it in to the bottom of the spring as far as I could (covered maybe 3/4 of the bottom?) I then trimmed it off with scissors around the OD of the cap and screwed it in. The ends of the foil got clamped under the lip between the cap and ring much like the copper wire in another Member's excellent version somewhere up there (I really like the wire, but more guys probably have foil around?). IIRC I had to double it up (four layers) since the first time it didn't clamp well enough.


OF
someone called you a vapor master earlier
wsup vapor master?LOLL

i followed your post and man cera is blowing clouds!! good lookin out, and i dont gotta fiddle with the switch at all either.

3 puffs, tasty as hell. already medicated.. boutta go take my socks off and relax now.. thanks FC you guys answered quickly! i went ahead and searched "Switch problems" in the thread after the lead from QUETZ.. good looks!

edit- switch does get super hot.. mouth piece gets hot too.. how do you go for back to back sessions with the cera?? that mouth piece cover is wayyy to hot to touch, atleast for another 10 minutes or so..

my hands are literally all red...
 
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iamn3ko

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I would clean, package up the whole unit and ship it back to TET. Alert them to what is going on and to expect a package. Have them try using it. Then they can figure out what to do and then send you a working unit.

Who knows if it is a switch problem, cartridge problem, battery problem. Sounds like most cartridges look like they are working but some how the air is not being heated hot enough to produce vapor? Then the heat gets transferred to the body quickly. So something inside is not working the way it is intended. One would think a person would try inhaling so many different ways that one of the ways should work and work every time.

Well like I said, I've been able to get a few good hits, but it's not consistent, but it's usually only the 1st hit of the bowl, any other hit after that gives nothing, and that's where it's wasting my weed... Id like at least one more good hit out of my perfectly fresh bowl...
 
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Sonics420

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Well like I said, I've been able to get a few good hits, but it's not consistent, but it's usually only the 1st hit of the bowl, any other hit after that gives nothing, and that's where it's wasting my weed... Id like at least one more good hit out of my perfectly fresh bowl...
even though i came up with a remedy i have the same problem. seems like after my 3 puffs that were pretty good [maybe i over exaggerated cause i was happy to get this working].. im back to almost no vapor.. bowl is still pretty green also.
 
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Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
How long are you letting it warm up before drawing on it? Also they have silicone cover things that go over the mouthpiece part :)
 
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Sonics420

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ive tried 30 seconds, a minute, 2 minutes. doesnt matter, back to no vapor at all.. the mouth piece would help but my fingers are the ones being burnt lol
 
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Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Slow firms draws at first. We need to heat the air and then with that air heat the herb. I'm using one of the predecessors right now, the Evolution. Same concept, metal instead of ceramic. I preheat for 30-45 and do some cigar-style pulls (but I inhale them)to get the goods up to temp, blow a bit out here and there to see if vapor production is starting. Soon as I exhale some vapor I exhale everything in my lungs and pull faster. I aim for 15 seconds til I'm at capacity.gotta be steady. There's a sweet spot that took me a few days to find.
 
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Sonics420

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This is my LL cart..for some reason this gap is wider than the other side.. is this normal?
Quet ill give it another go in little bit.
 
Sonics420,

OF

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someone called you a vapor master earlier
wsup vapor master?LOLL

i followed your post and man cera is blowing clouds!! good lookin out, and i dont gotta fiddle with the switch at all either.

3 puffs, tasty as hell. already medicated.. boutta go take my socks off and relax now.. thanks FC you guys answered quickly! i went ahead and searched "Switch problems" in the thread after the lead from QUETZ.. good looks!

ive tried 30 seconds, a minute, 2 minutes. doesnt matter, back to no vapor at all.. the mouth piece would help but my fingers are the ones being burnt lol

I'm not at all sure about this 'vapor master' thing, but I see no reason at all why the rest of you have to repeat my mistakes if I can only warn you off in time......

Unless you want to, of course.

Anyway, glad you're getting some life out of your Cera. If I'm following right, sounds like you need a switch replacement? Running well, the switch area should be the last to heat. As has been said, the cover helps shield from the heat on that end, but it's part of the plan.

Getting the bowl to quickly and easily vape completely is a skill that you need to learn. It's not all that hard, once you sort it out. Marginal results will not get it done before heat build up and other issues overtake you. Work on the steps. It sounds like you are going over long on step 1 and not getting 2 done before 3?

This is my LL cart..for some reason this gap is wider than the other side.. is this normal?
Quet ill give it another go in little bit.

I'm not 100% sure what gap we're talking about but if it's the centering of the metal connector body in the core it's normal for it to 'float' some to allow for shifting as it heats so it doesn't crack the ceramic. Not worry.

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Sonics420

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Sorry i wasnt clear.. one side of the metal connector is floating higher than the other side. Kind of like its tilted..
I got it going a bit but it gets way to hot for me to hold it so i will wait for TeT to email back tomorrow..my experience with them is good and im sure this just needs a little troubleshooting.
I read a few pages back and medical mark had the same problem as me..said Zeki instructed him on a fix but never specified what it was.. =/
 

Darb

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On my way to Jamaica with my Cera! (Fully sterilized of course)

Forgot my silicone tubing to cover the tip so I don't burn the crap out of my lips :lol:

Ended up buying some earbuds with silicone covers with spares so pretty sure they'll do the job!

What part of Jamica? I'm in Montego Bay right not. Unfourtnately no Cera. Lots of combustion.
 
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hooperbell

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Is it just me or does this seem like an unusually high amount of problems with switches/cores not working properly (and most members still haven't received their Ceras yet?)? It seems Paka was right... we do know who the beta testers are. :myday:
 
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harmudge

Active Member
Is it just me or does this seem like an unusually high amount of problems with switches/cores not working properly (and most members still haven't received their Ceras yet?)? It seems Paka was right... we do know who the beta testers are. :myday:

I agree on that.

I still like this piece of kit and may still buy one sometime in the future, but boy there seems to be a whole load of problems with it...especially the LL cores, people struggling to get a vape...could be technique of course...a lot of people reporting core or switch problems and having to e-mail or return things back to TET...QC at TET may need looking at.

Sonics, any better results today ?
 
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SameOldTim

Previously Known as 'ThermoCoreTim'
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G'Morning!

Have a hot switch? Shoot us a call or email! A hot switch indicates a faulty switch in most cases.

We can diagnose it easiest if you call in. (888)428-VAPE

There was a small batch of switches that were out of spec and couldnt handle the Amperage, when they fail they become a large resistor and start getting hot. There are still some out there in the wild with them, but we can easily send out a replacement if that seems to be the case.

Batteries are due in soon!!!

Cheers,
Tim
 

OF

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t...especially the LL cores, people struggling to get a vape...could be technique of course...a lot of people reporting core or switch problems and having to e-mail or return things back to TET...QC at TET may need looking at.

I, of course, have a different take. Since I don't believe defective cores heal themselves over night and last time I asked not a single bad LL core had come back for service. I tend to think the problems owners new to TV products have that get resolved without hardware changes have to do with technique not design or construction of the tool. I don't recall a single T1 or Evolution owner reporting anything but how much better the new design is at some things?

I also disagree, no part of this is a QC issue, at least not in the conventional sense. Those trained in Quality Control know this. Folks aren't getting shipments with defective or missing parts out of the box. We're not talking about units that don't get hot and the like. Yes, there are some problems developing in use (which seem to be being resolved as they're identified), but it seems when they ship everything is up to specifications. Inspection and test is doing the job correctly, IMO.

There's probably something like 100 overwhelmingly very happy owners out there. With more each week. True, at any given time there's a couple them still trying to get going (mostly it seems newbies?). Those folks seem to get going pretty easily once their issues are addressed.

I guess folks get to decide what 'advice' to take here. They can pick the experiences of lots of successful owners or the experiences of some few with as yet unresolved problems (most likely to be user issues in the end) and conjecture from those who've never tried (or even seen) one personally.

OF
 

Tweek

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So are switches not supposed to feel any degree of heat? Or is a bit normal due to the power it is demanding?


What part of Jamica? I'm in Montego Bay right not. Unfourtnately no Cera. Lots of combustion.

Lucky man!

A bit off topic, but hopefully this will mellow everyone out a bit so we can keep the thread a happy place :)

 
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