I certainly have to disagree there.
Discontinued Thermovape Cera (Original thread, closed because of chaos)
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OF
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I guess I don't follow exactly. Folks with low post counts opinions don't count as much???
OTOH if the issue is getting excited about stuff that they haven't tried yet, I'd stay away from D9 related forums.
Otherwise, folks get excited about things as they learn about them and consider the idea. Often that second part doesn't take too long. "Hey, that's neat!" can follow "well, will you look at that?" by a heartbeat....and sometimes fade just as fast.
OF
Cheerful Dub
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I have an AA75X sterilizer, so of course this comment piqued my curiosity. I am under the assumption that you would never need to sterilize your cores unless the ground loose leaf material was sitting for many months half-spent and became moldy and bloomed all sorts of bacteria due to inordinate exposure to contamination vectors, and even then I suppose it would depend on the size of the pores on the ceramic as to how (in)efficiently alcohol would be able to remedy the situation. I really can't imagine another scenario where it would be required, but it is good to know the materials can withstand 20 psi for 90 minutes
what the flop I am in lurv
TET honestly defers to the years of scientific research on the aspects of vaporization as the foundation of their perspective, so I think it is only appropriate to leave human chauvinism aside once again and stick with gender neutrality when referring to their devices
Thanks for the new video, I am really excited for the updated mouthpiece/sleeve configuration, looks like it interfaces very well on both ends and like all other aspects marks another significant improvement.
Krazzykid
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We may be excited about a device we haven't used yet, but we have used the T1/Revolution/AVA line and know this is a improvement on that line(that many on here directly asked for). In my opinion that is something to be "nutting over". We are proud supporters of the company and know what they are capable of producing.
Even with out an AC adapter I completely see this as replacing a desktop unit. With the long battery life, ease of swapping batteries, and ability to go from flowers-concentrates- e-liquid in a heartbeat(with cooling of course) I can't see the need for a desktop unit for most.
I feel confident the Cera can do everything I need in a vaporizer without the long heat up times usually required by a desktop unit. Add in the fact that it is completely portable and in my opinion extremely discreet, it beats my old whip style desktop any day!
Well its been a while since I've been able to post up, i apologize for abandoning my post on FC. There has been a tremendous amount of testing to get the Cera Loose Leaf dialed in right, and from all the testing its looking quite awesome! now back to some testing....
Tim
Tim
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Plonk seems to be the word of the week!
I can't decide whether to PLONK down another $99.00 for the flower cart for CERA now that I have pre-ordered the essential oil unit. I am quite tempted to try some hash mixed with flower if you know what I mean...
Loved the videos and welcome back Tim- Hopefully we can get this party started in the right direction now...
I can't decide whether to PLONK down another $99.00 for the flower cart for CERA now that I have pre-ordered the essential oil unit. I am quite tempted to try some hash mixed with flower if you know what I mean...Loved the videos and welcome back Tim- Hopefully we can get this party started in the right direction now...
Cheerful Dub
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From what I can tell it's a broken shot between two cameras but one take - nice rip, BOOM - "not your average ceramic"
As for all the talk of dildos and nutting, I am officially wet with anticipation 
Check it - fast forward to 2:08 - the embed code strips the timestamp:
JoeKickass
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From what I can tell it's a broken shot between two cameras but one take - nice rip, BOOM - "not your average ceramic"
The good: Cloud production seemed pretty good after the first 2-3 hits! And who doesn't like a damage test? I still want to see a drop test but it doesn't seem like cracking is going to be an issue!
The bad: You can tell by the way the guy twitches that the video was sped up and it seems like it must be a very slow draw if it took that long to get the hits...
SpiralVape
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Thanks for the welcome. I'm learning a great deal from this thread and grateful for all the shared knowledge. The first thing I thought when I read iron was rust. Of course this is from my inexperience with metallurgy, and am trusting this won't happen with the Cera. With most e-cigs, the safety comes from replacing the atomizer before it breaks down too much to cause harm. This ends up causing a lot of waste and money. TV is one of the only companies who has built atomizers to last, which makes me wonder about how well it holds up in the long run.
With the AVA's the only thing that seems to be able to break down is the metal heating element and possibly the metal housing. When using an atomizer for extended periods of time, cleaning becomes an issue. I've read the posts about cleaning and it sounds near indestructable.
The AVA's I have seem to have a slightly metal taste to them. I've been boiling my AVA's and it seems to do a good job, but I wonder about minerals in the water used and residue left that may be inhaled. I just started using distilled water and hope that will help. I wouldn't boil any other e-cig atomizer for fear of what the boiling may leech out. I've used all kinds of methods, from Everclear to an Ultra-Sonic. The Ultra-Sonic I have now has a white coating on the clear plastic lid that resembles paint. Not sure when or why that happened. Maybe it was using an Ultra-Sonic with Everclear and the plastic tray. I've since stopped using an Ultra-Sonic.
I was at the Virgin Vapor site the other day and read that the cleartomizers can melt from acids in some of their e-liquid.
OF
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TET honestly defers to the years of scientific research on the aspects of vaporization as the foundation of their perspective, so I think it is only appropriate to leave human chauvinism aside once again and stick with gender neutrality when referring to their devices
Wow, another interesting culture clash (seems like the day for it....). While it doesn't 'sound right' to me either, I didn't consider anything sexist or diminutive about it. There's a centuries old tradition of mariners referring to the crafts that transport them safely as 'she', that's were my thoughts went. I thought 'Cera' was a pun take off on the key material. Still might be, for as much as that really matters. Shows to go ya how things go the way the do sometimes, eighwhat?
Ah, gee Tim, thanks for checking in. I guess.
Oh, and good luck too.
Now please, please, please go assemble more; this is just too cool for us to keep to ourselves.......
Plonk seems to be the word of the week!
As perhaps the only lucky soul to have had that pleasure to date (and that only briefly) let me clue you in, "come on in, the water's fine". Bud and bubble went together like beer and pretzels. Well not exactly like that, but it sure did work well.
So well, in fact, I'm on to straight bubble with no hash at all. So far it made me nearly useless before I got smart and shut it off a while back. Then, maybe an hour ago, I fired it up again and got hammered harder than I'd intended all over (despite being careful I thought) from the same bowl load. It's showing no signs of offering quarter now. There may well be another session in there, maybe even more, but right now I'm fresh out of fresh testers.
What was the old tag line the Rebs gave the Henry? "That damn Yankee rifle you load on Saturday and shoot all week'? Well, this one may be the old Henry's vape cousin....
If you are thinking a 'mixed bowl', Cera will be there for you. Trust me on this.....
OF
OF
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You're welcome for the thanks for the welcome. Did I get that right? OK with me if we stop it now.....
I know, it's very natural to jump from iron to rust. It's a funny world at the surface, guys spend their lives studying it and can't agree. For instance, the Aluminum we use is really aluminum oxide, alumina, sand basically. Just real thin. Forms in a fraction of a second in most cases as I understand it. You can sharpen your steel knife on an aluminum plate for this reason. I once saw an aluminum alternator that had sawed it's way thorough it's steel bolt over time. Egged out the hole for sure, but polished that bolt down to nothing.
Taste is a funny thing, lots of folks you meet have no taste at all. I'm sure you can think of examples? Some have very sensitive tastes, able to taste solutions 10,000 times as dilute as others. Spooky almost. Then again, guys can taste the climate in France the grapes for the wine matured in. Not me, of course, but some and there's a consensus of experts to support that skill. On that theme, if you're going to taste some impurity, iron is a good one IMO. And quickly that surface conversion happens, I forgot long ago the details here but I'm sure you can find it, as we 'season' the pan. A similar process (but not the same in some respects) goes on. I can't really find it in herb or oil use personally, and I do know that for whatever reason it's a bigger factor in e-cigs (in fact I think Noah discusses it in one of the 'old school' videos on some AVA thing, 'breaking in'?). Not to say it's not real in Cera, of course, just 'best possible practice' as I see it.
I agree, Ethanol and some plastics don't get along well at all. There was a warning about ultrasonics and DART a while back (I used to promote it) when a test heater coil broke. Looked like vibration induced fatigue. The Cera coil I think is immune. It looks like a Mc Pierson strut from a sports car. The wire is many times thicker and much longer. The wire goes up through the support core (which is now a tube not a rod) then spirals down the outside. This is very tough alloy wire, very close in structure to stainless steel. It's almost as thick as a paper clip. It's self supporting. I personally have no fear of ultrasonics here, but TV can make the official call given the past problem I caused by offering free advice on the topic.
And finally I think you're on to something with the 'juice' causing problems in e-cigs. Not only are we talking about a family of similar weird chemicals in the carrier, but dissolved in there are all sorts of flavors (including some joint that was using candy flavoring.....) to make trouble as well. Lucky here we don't have that. I expect long service with Cera.
OF
We have the whole family here. Who's minding the shop?
Welcom to the fun Carlos.
Pipes
JoeKickass
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Hehe, i wish we had a queen around here, we could be more like the netherlands....
but all we got is merkel... have you seen that "woman"?
and don't get me started on driving around here, unlimited speed on highways? unlimited ignorance!
can't imagine how life is in the states, well somehow i can, seeing that half of my education stems from shows like the simpsons
but it seems like a really weird, surreal, half sad-half funny, idk invention maybe?edit: oops sorry for off-topic didn't pay attention when replying... still looking forward to the cera
Cheerful Dub
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Apologies, I understand chauvinism is most contemporarily associated with gender, I was simply attempting to conjugate the avoidance of such terminology with the humble nature of TET. If we had to go with one I'd agree "her" is superior due to your explanation of its etymology, and as I understand it your interpretation of the Cera moniker was confirmed in their first production video which illustrates the contraction with typographic effects. Back on track we are...
Now ponies?! You are tempting my most delinquent forum instincts, Pipes...
Yes, from what I understand it was either the same footage from the previous video or Noah was attempting to emulate the similar format of three really slow draws off the leaf chamber after a 30 second warmup.
I understand your concerns but for me these are "easily" eliminated by using concentrates. I do not mean to sound dismissive, I just feel as though it is a similar story as the T1 line. At the very least, with the new toggle switches you are given a little more lee-way as to how it can be concealed during the warmup time.
Speaking of, I am interested to see the illuminated switch, I noticed with the last round of website changes it has been updated to feature a black triangle on center - here is a link from their website source, as the image is simply too large to embed. Assuming the light will be a bright white with a color temperature matched to the ceramic
CarlosSpiceyWeiner
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I agree that the draw is way too slow.
It seemed like he was going to pass out do to the lack of oxygen.
Plus i wasn't very impressed with the amount of vapor produced after such a long draw.
Not hating, just my observation.
The lengths you go to in the name of science. Please don't blow out a lung and croak on us.
But if/when you do,rest assured you will be given true Marijuana Martyr status. I will personally lead the crew to carve your mug on Mt. Rushmore. We'll have to do some blasting to clear some space,but really,who gives a shit about Thomas Jefferson anymore?
Crap, was just checking out the most recent picture of Rushmore and found someone beat you to it.
Was before the release of Cera though. She is going to be jealous. I won't tell if no on else does.
Pipes
i cant wait to try this thing!
2Clicker,
Nor can I. Hopefully it will make the absence of professional hockey less disappointing?? Am really looking forward to running some bubble through CERA. Thanks OF for the initial bubble test.
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