The Vape Pen - reviewed

[DevoTheStrange]

Totally cool Mr. Science type friend... And a totally reasonable explanation of how these work. Several factors, including atomization and pressure and temperature differentials? Seems 'atomizer' alone won't cover the effect and not just a simple 'heated' vape either. Hyrbrid vaporization? E-cig for lack of better terms.

yeah.... whole lot of variables go into making vapor with these little things. I would label this one an External Vaporizer.... Vaporization occurs outside of the actual device instead of within it. The Device is used too create the Perfect amount of Variables too create a mist that vaporizes when it comes into contact with outside forces.

 

[Purple-Days]

Yes Reece,

Just listened to Orwell's 1984 a couple of weeks ago. (read it several times back when)

The idea of New-Speak, was a reduction of the number words, to induce group think (or group moron-ism).

This ever increasing slide in modern language, toward 'anything goes' or 'E-bonics' (from electronic not ebonics of old-think), is heading us straight to the same end IMO.

Orientate will be another word they will need to add (if they haven't already). Derived from orientation, but applied to orient. '" . You orient a compass. You check it's orientation.

 

[VapoFish]

Reece, dare I say I agree with you again?

Irregardless is a pet peeve. I have an otherwise intelligent, hip business partner who uses the word (if you can call it that). It's like fingernails on a chalkboard when I hear it.

Oh well. His other qualities trump his use of irregardless.

BTW, I've enjoyed conversating about this issue:

 

[Hippie Dickie]

orientate ... do you mean what someone might do to a manufacturing process? take it to the orient?

 

[Purple-Days]

 

[MoeOnTheMoon]

Devo, thanks for sciencing that explanation of "atomizer".
I think Vape-Pen is right though for not calling it the Atomizer-Pen, though, because if it were called an atomizer people would think they were just spraying liquid into their mouths, which is not the case; the main difference being that heat is involved and vapor is created. I think calling it an atomizer - even though it is - would confuse the average consumer.

("Sciencing" is another word that is starting to appear, apparently meaning using the scientific process, or something. I saw it in my wife's syllabus at school (NOT a science class!) and looked it up. According to Webster it's NOT a word. Thank goodness.

 

[Hippie Dickie]

uh, you mean, the average cannabis consumer ... average?

but, i think it's okay to confuse the consumer when you're introducing a new technology that has no precedent ... it's the time to teach a new technology/jargon -- that is, if your business model can afford to wait for the first graduating class.

 

[Lo]

orientate ... do you mean what someone might do to a manufacturing process? take it to the orient?

Shit, almost made me spit coffee on the monitor!! That was too funny!!

 

[reece]

BTW, I've enjoyed conversating about this issue:

orientate ... do you mean what someone might do to a manufacturing process? take it to the orient?

 

[Purple-Days]

This is a category name question, as I see it.

We all seem content with 'whip', 'bag', and more defining terms like 'direct draw' or 'fan assist' or (what is the E thought of as being??? Combination), 'box', 'portable' and many I haven't heard or forgotten to list.

This category certainly creates vapor, not mist.

Atomizer, though used in the process refers to misting IMO, and is too narrowly defined to use to reference this complicated process.

Vaporizer is too broad a term. We all have vaporizers.

E-Cig will relate it to a nicotine and cigarettes and all that negative karma. Not so good with a movement looking to separate itself from harmful drugs and alcohol stigma.

Maybe Mr. Science can tell us what to call it. Everything has a scientificalized name. Don't it?

 

[StickyShisha2]

a vaporizer produces vapor. This device produces fog. Fog is distinguished from mist only by its density. It is actually the small liquid droplets that are suspended in air.

 

[reece]

So it's a fog-erizer, or maybe fog-inator, or fog-erizer-inator.

 

[StickyShisha2]

thats like one step closer to an inhaler. put that shit in a pressurized can that i can shake and puff.

 

[rayski]

a vaporizer produces vapor. This device produces fog. Fog is distinguished from mist only by its density. It is actually the small liquid droplets that are suspended in air.

Droplets of propylene glycol that have been atomized around 188 degrees and which contain the good stuff.

 

[MoeOnTheMoon]

Fun to speculate what it coulda shoulda been... but regardless, the name Vape-Pen is here to stay because the web site is up, and now the product has Vape-Pen printed on the side of it to help distinguish it from crappy counterfeits that have been found in the marketplace.

And it's about to get more advertising in the near future and is now - or shortly will be - available in more medical marijuana markets.

My personal take on it - and it appears the inventor agrees - is that calling it something other than something with vapor or vape in the name would not really describe it as well. Because when you use it you do see vapor when you exhale and virtually everything about the use of it is similar to a vaporizer. To call it something else - again, imho - would have confused the issue, despite what may be absolutely "accurate" scientifically. Just my dos centavos.

 

[Purple-Days]

I'm with you.

StickyShisha says, "put that shit in a pressurized can that i can shake and puff..."

Pammy has an inhaler that you describe. She has asthma and it delivers a very precise dose, even has a countdown numerical readout, doses left... ... you know. They are waiting... They have all the tools. It would be so easy. except...

Ohh, nothing to do with the product that this thread was about, I agree, but the product 'category' needs a name, we diverged.

 

[MoeOnTheMoon]

Tom, I also use asthma inhalers but have never seen one with a readout. How does that work? Is it digital? That's pretty cool. I guess I have a different brand.

It would be nice to have measured doses, etc. I guess... but isn't it part of the fun, to use a vaporizer or joint or pipe or other paraphernalia? The nice thing about the vape pen is that you puff on it like a joint. I find that "comforting" or "fun" or something. (Let's not get into issues of oral fixation here... )

Somehow it's just not as much fun to eat it for example... which can provide a pretty measured dose once you get the recipe down... Know what I mean? I'm not sure I want to use an asthma inhaler type thing for mj... I think that's one thing I am liking more and more about the vapor genie: that it's like a pipe and you have very good control of how big of a hit you get, once you get the technique down. And sometimes, let's face it, it's fun to get a big ole hit!

One thing I totally agree on though, is that it should be LEGAL and whatever kind of device that people want should be created and sold by anyone who has the entrepreneurial spirit!

 

[Purple-Days]

I think it's a mechanical countdown. LIke that clicker you hit with your thumb every time a person or car passes. Press for a dose, it counts down one click. Starts at a certain number (150 or whatever) and counts down to zero. Not 'perfectly' accurate, but close enough to let you know when to be ready with a refill.

I think the dosage is listed in mcg. pretty figgin close.

I would go for a similar THC inhaler tomorrow. The novelty of consumption is over for me.

 

[MoeOnTheMoon]

I would go for a similar THC inhaler tomorrow. The novelty of consumption is over for me.

Well, I'll take it in whatever form it comes.... especially if it's easy and *GOOD*.
An inhaler would certainly be stealthy. And as I've said re the Vape-Pen, even if it is legal for an mmj patient like myself, I still don't want to flaunt it or attract attention to it, so the Vape-Pen or an asthma-inhaler type delivery system or anything discreet like that is a good thing in terms of remaining discreet.

 

[bluntfaced]

This is a category name question, as I see it.

We all seem content with 'whip', 'bag', and more defining terms like 'direct draw' or 'fan assist' or (what is the E thought of as being??? Combination), 'box', 'portable' and many I haven't heard or forgotten to list.

Just dropped in to clarify the E is a whip/bag or bag/whip AKA BIG WHIG or WHIG BIG XD

uhhh later

 

[jambandphan03]

 

[MacRadish]

Their site says they offer parts to purchasers of their products and do not make them available to the general public.

"Spare Parts: Spare parts are available to vape-pen owners. In addition to free warranty replacement, if you own a vape-pen, you can order repacement parts. We do not sell these parts to the general public and that is why they are not on our web page"

http://www.vape-pen.com/vape-pen-testimonials/post/802360

 

[MoeOnTheMoon]

Hi there, I'm new here, so please be kind...

I have been testing out a few of the mini e-cigs (blu, volcano, 510 which are all compatible with eachother aside from the chargers), with non-nicotine herbal VG solutions for the past month and ran across the vape-pen site while digging for info. After testing out the mini's I already mentioned and learning quite a lot about how they function, I decided to take a chance and spend the money to get the vape-pen mini (out of curiosity mostly) even though the price was extremely high, and there doesn't seem to be any replacement parts available on their site. I noticed a lack of information about them on the web from people who actually use them, so I decided to be one of the first to test them out so I could give an honest report about how they function. While I was trying to find extra batteries that fit my L88b models, I ordered a couple of batteries from the Revolver site and realized they are not compatible with my L88b cigs, they seem to be the 84mm size, so I set them aside. Today I got my vape-pen mini ($80) kit in the mail, it came with 2 (very sensitive) batteries that light up when handling the packaging, one atomizer and 2 blank carts and a plug in charger. I noticed that the vape-pen and the revolver batteries were the same size, have the same atomizer connection and have been charging my revolver batteries on the new vape-pen charger. I have not tried the vape-pen yet, as I still need to fully charge the batteries first, but I just want to mention that I think it is possible that the Revolver parts should work with the vape-pen mini. I know they claim to have lowered the temp for herbal vaporizing, and they did send a sample of ginseng juice with the unit for me to test out. I'm just not sure it's a fair deal, getting only one atomizer, no PCC and no replacement parts available on their site for such a large price. I will do more testing with the juice they sent me, and my herbal VG juice and report back with my findings. Once Revolver restocks their atomizers, I plan to order some of those as well, to test out with the parts I have now. I have a nagging feeling these vape-pens are not what they are cracked up to be (no offense to the vape-pen people, I just calls them how I see them) but won't know for sure until I do more testing. For the record, I have been successfully using the regular e-cigs for non-nicotine herbal extracts with satisfying results, I just don't know if vape-pen's claims to be superior are accurate or worth the cost. I will know soon...

Hi jambandphan03. I am a user of the vape-pen, you can call me a fan of the vape-pen who happens to know the developer of it.

With all due respect, I don't think the part you wrote in bold is fair. You say you're calling it as you see it, but you haven't really even seen it work yet! You're basing your comments on what? How it looks in the box? And the fact that it has some interchangeable parts? I hope you will report back how it works with the provided herb, and - if you can get it - the liquid herb that was developed for it.

If you read the site, you know that they have indeed changed the microprocessor. (That is not evident from just looking at it.)

What was found was that the microprocessor had to be changed in a specific way in order to make it work well with the herbal liquid that was developed specifically for the product, which provides the full range of components of the fresh herb (ie; it's not just THC, not just cannabinoids, etc; it's the whole herb in liquid form). Thousands of dollars in development and research by scientists was put into creating the liquid herb and changing the pen to work with it. It is far from just juice you can create yourself by soaking your avb or fresh mj in some kind of liquid. If so, it would not have been necessary to spend the time and money to develop the liquid herb.

You should be aware that it says on vape-pen.com that using your own home made liquid in the vape-pen voids the warranty because it is likely to ruin it. Have fun experimenting but unfortunately you do so at your own risk and cost.

As you can see from my review here and reviews on their site, the Vape-Pen does indeed work well when used with the specifically formulated liquid herb. It is being sold at a very popular dispensary in Venice, CA, for example, and I don't believe there have been any complaints and the last I heard they were making a deal to buy more pens and liquid herb for sale to medical marijuana patients. I'm quite sure that would not be happening if they did not work satisfactorily.

I assume you are not in a state where you can buy the liquid herb? If you are, I highly (no pun intended) recommend that you try it with the proper liquid before gunking it up with home made formulas which void the warranty.

Good luck!

 

[jambandphan03]

 

[stickstones]

welcome to the forum, jamband...I look forward to hearing more about your opinion of this unit.