Discontinued The Sublimator

[duval]

Even the other way around doesn't seem possible. 3/32 is only .094, which left us with .406 to divide by two (for wall thickness). Why would you want such a thick wall (.203)?
I bought the 3/8 ID, 1/5 OD. maybe that's what he got.

Edit. he beat me to it.

The 1/4" ID, .375" OD is the perfect size and like i said, this tubing is medical grade and is very thick but very

Even the other way around doesn't seem possible. 3/32 is only .094, which left us with .406 to divide by two (for wall thickness). Why would you want such a thick wall (.203)?
I bought the 3/8 ID, 1/5 OD. maybe that's what he got.

Edit. he beat me to it.

Naw I wrote the wrong size. I actually got 1/4" ID, .375" OD.
It

Great, it's easier to understand 1/4 (2/8)" id, 3/8" od though

Just thinking that 1/4" seems too big for the le mouthpieces?

.25" is exactly the od of the metal tubing,
so it seems like something smaller may be needed for the hose to stay on.

I think on that list I might try the 0.188" x 0.313" size.
I believe it's the same size as standard aquarium tubing, which on amazon is just called,
"standard 3/16" diameter tubing". 3/16 = .188.

It does seem a little big and initially will seem a little big but it creates a somewhat suction with the tube and the mouthpiece and it does work for the LE kit. However, I'm sure the next size down will slip right on fine but i like the biggest tube i can possibly get so that it creates the most airflow. And like i said, initially i thought i had ordered the wrong tubing but once i let it sit for a second, it was perfect. Another thing to think about is that not all sizes are available in short lengths. For instance, i think the least amount you can get is a 10 foot tube and you can cut it as long or short as you want. But the size I ordered, the smallest length they sell it in is 25 feet. It's only about $1 per foot so no big expense either way but if you want the tubing to be super snug, go with the size you said. I just looked back at my order on amazon and the size i said above is correct. It has a very thick, heat resistant wall which causes the OD to be bigger.

Here's a picture of the tubing i got:

 

[grokit]

I see, you bypassed the threads for a tighter fit.
I've been using some cheap stuff that's literally made for aquarium air lines lately, and sublimation seems attracted to it so I may get some of the good stuff from amazon as well.
In the meantime I will change from cheap acrylic to cheap silicone just to see what happens

 

[duval]

I see, you bypassed the threads. That would be hard to do with aquarium tubing!

I've been using some cheap stuff that's literally made for aquarium air lines lately, and sublimation seems attracted to it so I may get some of the good stuff from amazon as well.

It was worth the purchase. I have plenty of replacement tubing so I'll never have to worry about getting new tubes or cleaning it because I'd just cut another one. It also has a muuuuch higher heat resistance and won't get burned if it happens to touch the heating element. Plus, if it's safe enough to pump and IV into my body, I think it's safe enough to smoke from.

edit: I just got my kill a watt meter in the mail and got had my temp. dialed in. I keep flowers at 35 watts and concentrates i amp it up to about 38-40 watts. I prefer to put flowers in more close to .1 increments and keep the wattage steady to have 1 super thick clean, all-in-one pull. Thus, no bad tasting seconds hits and you still get the most out of your material

 

[Detonator]

Yesterday I had a killer sesh with @Too Short . He brought over some real nice hash he had made and some great shatter from a local desp. We also vaped some flowers of course and some more Dabs I had... It was cool to get another experienced vaper first hand knowledge and impressions of the Sub I allready love.

We both agreed the Sub seem to take your great weed and make it even better, or it will take a small dab and make it seem better and bigger.. I'm not sure how it does that but it does.. Swirling Air? Woot!

Seriously the flavor of wax I allready know on my domeless Dab Esentials nail has been turned way up by using the same wax in the Sub.



Keep On Subin-It, Sub-Nation!

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[Mr T]

Reading the posts some pages back, I saw Detonator's quote about his reclaim oil from wax dabs.

"OK I dab it once in a while but I think it has alot of CBD's and just puts me to sleep not really what a Sativa fanatic like me wants... "

I totally agree, mine's also coming from dabs and it's sleep inducing.
Its consistency is quite hard at room temperature. The spot where the reclaim oil collects in my glass usually remains hot for many hours due to the proximity to the down stem. There's maybe a few millimetres between the end of the stainless tube and the glass. It doesn't restrict the air flow, but it ends up cooking the reclaim oil for extended periods, I think this heat further degenerates the oil.

On the other hand, I had the pleasure of smoking sublimate oil that was collected in the Al the Alchemist (from pot-tv) bong through vaping herb and it was exceptional, smooth and strong.

Yeah, keep on Subin!

 

[notmyrealUSERname]

It's not backwards, you want the reclaim on the dry side

I meant that I would want the atomizer/Apollo and sublimate catcher on the low end of the adaptor, and the carb plug and the joint that goes into the bong on the high side.

The reason I'd switch it is to help with stability, keep most of the wieght lower.

Also, I can't stand little bubblers where your dome or nail is basically sitting at the end of your nose - I go cross eyed real easy, if you use the adaptor the way it's pictured I bet the sublimator will be above eye level on most bubs/tubes.

 

[duval]

Reading the posts some pages back, I saw Detonator's quote about his reclaim oil from wax dabs.

"OK I dab it once in a while but I think it has alot of CBD's and just puts me to sleep not really what a Sativa fanatic like me wants... "

I totally agree, mine's also coming from dabs and it's sleep inducing.
Its consistency is quite hard at room temperature. The spot where the reclaim oil collects in my glass usually remains hot for many hours due to the proximity to the down stem. There's maybe a few millimetres between the end of the stainless tube and the glass. It doesn't restrict the air flow, but it ends up cooking the reclaim oil for extended periods, I think this heat further degenerates the oil.

On the other hand, I had the pleasure of smoking sublimate oil that was collected in the Al the Alchemist (from pot-tv) bong through vaping herb and it was exceptional, smooth and strong.

Yeah, keep on Subin!

This is almost exactly the way the limited edition kit looks with the atomizer coming this close to the sublimate but the bottom of the atomizer is nowhere near the temperature of the rest of the bowl. It shouldn't affect the color or taste of your sublimate. Mine and everybodies I've seen is the same thick red color with a heavy cbd content that I use for insomnia. It builds up faster than regular traditional nail reclaim that you normally have to strip with ISO in order to even get access to which gets rid of most of the taste and color and I'm not a fan of. However, the fact that I can get not resin but daaaank sublimate from my herb is a huuuge plus that I take full advantage of. I just let it build up and bust it out only at like 3am when I can't get to sleep. If that doesn't work, I have a mixture of 1 part kief to 3 parts bho and dab that out of the Apollo. Kief dabs FTW!!!

 

[Mr T]

For sure, sublimator reclaim oil builds faster, doesn't need re-filtration with ISO if fitted with proper screens and is an insomnia aid. I just think that the bho sublimator reclaim oil isn't as good as herb vaping sublimator reclaim oil...

 

[Been Vapin]

BHO based sublimate is pretty gross compared to flower,bubble, kief sublimate. Two different things. I'm about to give my atomizer a full overhall just to get rid of that BHO funk after heavy dabbing. Right now mmy atomizer smells bad from all that BHO. When I only vaped flowers the atomizer put off a beautiful lemon smell that has been mentioned earlier in the thread.

Pretty sure Al the Alchemist doesn t dab much BHO at all. Instead he does lots of bubble and has awesome clean potent sublimate that a few people on FC have tried and had positive things to say about it.

Just cleaned my Apollo and atomizer as best as possible. Thing smells neutral now. I think it get better heat transfer and thermal equilibrium without all that shit. Time for a 420 am rip.

Also I love to start the day with double deckers of sublimate!

 

[duval]

For sure, sublimator reclaim oil builds faster, doesn't need re-filtration with ISO if fitted with proper screens and is an insomnia aid. I just think that the bho sublimator reclaim oil isn't as good as herb vaping sublimator reclaim oil...

Oh yeah I totally agree. That's what I meant. The herb sublimate builds up faster and is much danker

 

[derrickmayer]

Yeah herb sublimate is way nicer , bho sublimate builds up faster in my opinion, maybe cause i do huge dabs and it all runs down into the atomizer though herb sublimate has a broader variety of terps ?

 

[duval]

Yeah herb sublimate is way nicer , bho sublimate builds up faster in my opinion, maybe cause i do huge dabs and it all runs down into the atomizer though herb sublimate has a broader variety of terps ?

Oh yeah. It's tastes amazing and has a much better color. I have the Apollo unit so I do dabs and herb so I can avoid mixing them unless I bought another atomizer but not necessary in my opinion because I like both but for some reason I get more sublimate by far through herbs. It's supposed to be a 10% return. Probly because to get a g of oil u have to smoke 10 g's of oil and to get and gram of herb oil, 10 grams isn't that much. I can't wait till the new reclaim attachment comes out for the limited edition kit. It's going to just replace the screw on part that holds the atomizer on the base of the LE kit. It will have a screw off bottom where the sublimate collects, making it much easier to access. Are you using the Apollo or the e-nail?

 

[havealight101]

Im so late to the party, wow. This instrument is very enticing. I have made it to pg 46 now, and I'm finally getting to the juicy stuff. The vapor re-atomization is really interesting stuff! So much so, I made a glass atomizer for my cloud yesterday. I think I'm far enough in the thread to understand the unit a little better. So far the glass atomizer has me impressed with the smoothness. I used a j-hook dry with bubble in the evo on max to really see if it's that smooth, it was, and I would have coughed up a lung normally, but didn't. I felt it in the eyes more than I have in a long time. The lady even commented that I haven't looked that squinty since high school (14 years ago)!
Anyway, thank you sub nation for all the quality accounts of use of the sub.
I will keep reading till I catch up, and plan on getting a v2 as soon as they are available.
I'll bring video evidence next time as well

@Enrico you're awsome, keep it up! Also looks like you created quite the tool! Thank you.

edit: my finger slipped, so the edit was just to finish the post.

 

[derrickmayer]

Oh yeah. It's tastes amazing and has a much better color. I have the Apollo unit so I do dabs and herb so I can avoid mixing them unless I bought another atomizer but not necessary in my opinion because I like both but for some reason I get more sublimate by far through herbs. It's supposed to be a 10% return. Probly because to get a g of oil u have to smoke 10 g's of oil and to get and gram of herb oil, 10 grams isn't that much. I can't wait till the new reclaim attachment comes out for the limited edition kit. It's going to just replace the screw on part that holds the atomizer on the base of the LE kit. It will have a screw off bottom where the sublimate collects, making it much easier to access. Are you using the Apollo or the e-nail?

I use the Apollo adapt a bong, I posted some pictures a few pages back

 

[duval]

I use the Apollo adapt a bong, I posted some pictures a few pages back

Yeah same here but in the LE kit

 

[Been Vapin]

Cleaned my unit completely last night. Started a tally of number of flower packs it takes to get one drip. Call it RIPS TO DRIPS. I'll make a note if any sift, scizz, bubble, rosin, etc go into the bowl for increased sublimate production. Might even through in a 4th screen in to the mix.

Where are the Ti units and moon tools? Vaporwared?

 

[grokit]

Does anybody remember when all sub owners were promised moon tools? I do.

 

[duval]

Does anybody remember when all sub owners were promised moon tools? I do.

What is a moon tool?

 

[Mister G]

Cleaned my unit completely last night. Started a tally of number of flower packs it takes to get one drip. Call it RIPS TO DRIPS. I'll make a note if any sift, scizz, bubble, rosin, etc go into the bowl for increased sublimate production. Might even through in a 4th screen in to the mix.

Where are the Ti units and moon tools? Vaporwared?

 

[Monsoon]

Hopefully the Ti units will be out soon. Enrico's been teasing pics and video of it in action on Instagram:

http://instagram.com/thesublimator

 

[shredhead]

Looks to be really improved.....and also maybe able to screw apart???? Looking really good anyways, I wanna see he price tho....

 

[Mister G]

Enrico refers to the medical line as "high end" so I'm prepared for the sticker shock.

 

[duval]

Everything that is aluminum will be stainless steel. Everything that is stainless will be titanium and their will be glass attachments to replace the plastic tubes. There will be a whole new unit that's all titanium Apollo and there will be screw on tiers with cars and screw on atomizer stands that collect reclaim. It's going to drop on planetvape.ca later this month. Soooo stoked but I just bought the Apollo so I may just get the Ti e-nail.

 

[Been Vapin]

Update on this - the grill is another word for a screen, the moon tool is the actual tool. 2 grills (screens are included) you can also use an iolite screen as Enrico uses in his videos. There will be two Moon tools, one small version made from surgical stainless which will be included in all future Sublimator kits as soon as they are available and will also be sent for free to all existing Sublimator owners who didn't receive one in their kits. A larger more advanced Moon tool made from titanium will also be available as a separate product.

Hope to see more FC members Sub'in soon.
PV

That was posted July 13, 2013. Oh Enrico is busy in Communist Cuba doing dabs from the slab.

 

[CG420]

I hope.. I hope there will be a nice offer for us here at FC when the Ti Apollo comes out. They can just include the moon tool with the upgrade.