Discontinued The Sublimator

[stickstones]

It helps. Mostly solved my issues. I don't use it very often though because it is not the most easy thing to handle when you take the heated downstem off you can't use the bottom handle very easily. So I use a pair of oven gloved to handle the bowl.

Yikes! Are the hits bigger since there is no reclaim going on? Did your glass get dirtier?

 

[Darb]

Most of us used to smoke at one point or another. Couldn't drop that on the couch either!!

 

[theCerberus]

Most of us used to smoke at one point or another. Couldn't drop that on the couch either!!

yes, but this is the FUCK combustion forum. i'd like to prevent my house from combustion if possible
With that said, I know there are plenty of responsible people out there who will take proper precautions.

 

[Tweek]

I'd say its one MAJOR drawback is that its a fire hazard. and for the price it should be safer designed.

I really like the hits/and extraction it gave me that 1 day I used it before the heater stand knocked over and it melted my carpet.
I scraped that off but havent used it since.
I wouldnt risk inhaling melted carpet fumes left behind anyways.
That is why I went silent in this thread about a month back.

Seriously guys, the one warning you should be giving is how dangerous of a fire hazard this thing is. and with that said it is totally possible to be responsible with it too.

Mine fell on the carpet as well, and I was able to easily rub off the residue. Not that big of a deal. You can also leave it on high for a good 10 minutes or so to burn off anything you are concerned about. Shame not to use it, but I guess you can just sell it if you are that worried about it. No sense wasting your cash keeping it on the shelf.

I don't see it as a dangerous fire hazard, personally. You are entitled to your opinion, but I think any responsible adult with common sense can use this vape safely...you might get a burn here or there, but if that is a concern, then don't buy it, I say. It would be cool if they could implement some heat proof features, but even if they never do, I really can't see how this is any less safe than a stove top or iron. I've burnt myself on those, as well. I still have a burn on my carpet in the shape of an iron, from the previous owners.

As long as you don't leave it unattended while on, I can't see how anyone is going to burn their house down or do any serious damage. Keep it away from pets and kids. Make sure it has a stable base, and don't use it on a desk that you don't want to damage...or at least place it on a tray of sorts...just my

It's just the nature of this particular beast.

 

[NinjaMindTriks]

I burnt the end of my nose. It sucked, but I didn't blame the sub. It was me being careless and talking to a friend while using it. I use mine on a glass table and never leave it on unattended. It is obviously not a vape made for people that will have small children running around or those simply not responsible enough to use it. I have 2 cats and they never even bother it. So yes I have been burnt by the sub, but it was total user error. I knew when I purchased it, that it was not going to be like my other vapes, but I wouldn't change it. I think it looks very cool in an industrial sort of way and it performs like a beast. It does exactly what I wanted it to do. Even better than I thought it would.

 

[Tweek]

I burnt the end of my nose. It sucked, but I didn't blame the sub. It was me being careless and talking to a friend while using it. I use mine on a glass table and never leave it on unattended. It is obviously not a vape made for people that will have small children running around or those simply not responsible enough to use it. I have 2 cats and they never even bother it. So yes I have been burnt by the sub, but it was total user error. I knew when I purchased it, that it was not going to be like my other vapes, but I wouldn't change it. I think it looks very cool in an industrial sort of way and it performs like a beast. It does exactly what I wanted it to do. Even better than I thought it would.

I was just thinking this afternoon, about how it would suck to burn your nose. Most of my burns have been from trying to use it on a cluttered desk...once I cleaned up, and organized everything so that it was ergonomically efficient, I have not had anymore issues.

 

[NinjaMindTriks]

I had it right on the end and it scabbed and everything. Hard to explain!

 

[pakalolo]

I had it right on the end and it scabbed and everything. Hard to explain!

"Oh that, I was working really hard and kept my nose to the grindstone too long."

 

[NinjaMindTriks]

LOL I said I was really drunk and burnt my nose trying to light a cig.

 

[Been Vapin]

I burned the tip of my nose a few days before a wedding. No one said anything, but I definetly felt people were like WTF. At least the professional photos will be memorable. My first and only burn.

 

[NinjaMindTriks]

That was my first and only too!

 

[Monsoon]

One time I was sniffing the bowl and got a bit too close and briefly touched the tip of my nose. Now I feel a bit less silly now, thanks guys

I have a more steady supply of oil and bubble hash, I think I'm pretty close to pulling the trigger on the E-Nail. The Apollo works great but the holes get clogged up after a bit and it's not ideal for heavy dabbing.

 

[grokit]

I was the kid that thought it was cool to light the marshmallow on fire, and quickly bring it up to your face to blow it out. Not great for smores but if you're impatient for your sugar rush it's just the technique. One night in Hawaii on the beach I ended up in the emergency because I misjudged, and part the flaming marshmallow got stuck to the tip of my nose. Just to allay any confusion, the end of my nose was indeed on fire. It only lasted a moment as I quickly submerged my face in an ice chest, but my psyche is scarred for life.

In comparison, the sublimator is a walk in the park! Seriously though, pets can add another level of paranoia to the subliquation. I have had my rig tipped over a few times overnight when it's been off, also I use it on a small metal table with ridges around the outside so it has to fall off of it to do damage. Which it has, but when it's been turned off so all is good so far. Unfortunately, my dogs are in hospice and are a bit senile and they sleep in the sub room/office/man/dog cave.

 

[eLiguL]

This thing is a vaporizer. Gassification? I don't know what that is. The best explanation I've heard about what's going on is vaporization that is then run through a heated downstem, which traps the bigger particles but allows the smaller ones to pass through making the hit smoother. These bigger goblets end up as reclaim oil.


Is there a patent out there yet? I think it is just pending, but I don't know for sure.

Ya, gassification(I added an extra S it seems) is the word Enrico used in the video I watched:

I believe Enrico even uses it in his tag line for the product "Beyond Vapourisation". When your patent is in process it is protected under patent laws so technically it is patented. But like I said earlier, I dont claim to be an expert, this is just my understanding.

It's been established for awhile now, that it isn't any sort of special, yet unstudied process. Sticks pretty much sums it up.


That being said, I get much more pleasure out of using this unit, than most of the vapes in my collection. I have no intention of picking up anymore desktop vapes for a while...I feel that satisfied with the performance.


**Disclaimer...if I do happen to get another desktop, it's just because I am a gadget freak

Im gonna have to disagree here, there is something going on in that atomizer that no other vaporizer does, that in itself is a process that is unique to the Sublimator.

It's easy.....one minute of torch on JUST the top. I hold it with pliers.

Then put the heater on the atty and torch the atty and RIM of heAter for another 30seconds

Then torch the rod in the middle for 30 seconds...up to temp.


I take my first hit to check heat then you torch from 10-30 seconds between hits. Keep giving the whole setup torching but keep it concentrated on the rod mostly.


Oh and torch the bottom of the rod unless taking a dab, then you'll want the whole rod hot..

Thanks, much appreciated. Waiting for my bubbler to arrive before I place my order for the UFO, ill use your method as a guideline for me to get started.

 

[Vapodudule]

Just to let you know i combusted with my ufo setting! ash and all. I had to clean all aroung and throw the tube, i attached it to a bubler so i had my bubler combustimated also. I surely torched too much.

For ufo torching, do not forget my experience of breaking niddle. You have to torch it w/o inserted in atty, if stuck, niddle will melt and if you pull ufo by it it will break.

 

[Tweek]

Ya, gassification(I added an extra S it seems) is the word Enrico used in the video I watched:

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Im gonna have to disagree here, there is something going on in that atomizer that no other vaporizer does, that in itself is a process that is unique to the Sublimator.

Fair enough, you have a right to disagree...but you are still wrong Yes it does something that no other vaporizer does...it heats the vapor in the down stem...but it's still a vaporizer. And yes, we have seen pretty much every video Enrico has put out from day one...the thread is over 146 pages. Much of this has been covered.

There is a thread someplace around here discussing sublimation. Feel free to head on over and elaborate some more...lots of science folks and non science folks alike were sharing ideas.

 

[shredhead]

Just to let you know i combusted with my ufo setting! ash and all. I had to clean all aroung and throw the tube, i attached it to a bubler so i had my bubler combustimated also. I surely torched too much.

For ufo torching, do not forget my experience of breaking niddle. You have to torch it w/o inserted in atty, if stuck, niddle will melt and if you pull ufo by it it will break.

I combusted too, but that's because I tried I little too much heat on the sputnik....by the niddle do you mean the middle rod on top the UFO?

 

[Vapodudule]

nidlle=rod yes

 

[Tweek]

"Breaking Niddle"...sounds like a tv show.

 

[eLiguL]

Fair enough, you have a right to disagree...but you are still wrong Yes it does something that no other vaporizer does...it heats the vapor in the down stem...but it's still a vaporizer. And yes, we have seen pretty much every video Enrico has put out from day one...the thread is over 146 pages. Much of this has been covered.

There is a thread someplace around here discussing sublimation. Feel free to head on over and elaborate some more...lots of science folks and non science folks alike were sharing ideas.

I guess we will just have a differing opinion on whether or not that is still just vapor coming out of the atomizer, im inclined to believe its not. That extra step in the atomizer, for me at least, is going beyond standard vaporization.

I dont think im well versed enough on the subject to discuss sublimation with even non-science folks. Im only regurgitating information from the creator but if that makes me wrong then I accept that.

 

[theCerberus]

I guess we will just have a differing opinion on whether or not that is still just vapor coming out of the atomizer, im inclined to believe its not. That extra step in the atomizer, for me at least, is going beyond standard vaporization.

I dont think im well versed enough on the subject to discuss sublimation with even non-science folks. Im only regurgitating information from the creator but if that makes me wrong then I accept that.

I have read the sublimation thread and what I got out of it is that the downstem("atomizer") cannot be physically hotter than the bowl, its impossible.
But Enrico suggests its "super hot" down there, hotter than the bowl. If that were the case, it would be a problem, because small bits that get through the screen would surely combust.
So the added heat afterwords is actually cooler than the initial heat. In which case how much is that heat really doing?
A heated sub bowl works better but the upper bowl is really whats getting hot. not the atomizer.
What exactly is going on with the atomizer? We know the airflow is restricted, so is it adding turbulence? probably. my best guess is that air turbulence is likely all thats happening here.

is it going "beyond vaporization" by all accounts I'd have to say no.
and if it was doing what Enrico suggested it would probably result in combustion.

Mine fell on the carpet as well, and I was able to easily rub off the residue. Not that big of a deal. You can also leave it on high for a good 10 minutes or so to burn off anything you are concerned about. Shame not to use it, but I guess you can just sell it if you are that worried about it. No sense wasting your cash keeping it on the shelf.
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As long as you don't leave it unattended while on, I can't see how anyone is going to burn their house down or do any serious damage. Keep it away from pets and kids. Make sure it has a stable base, and don't use it on a desk that you don't want to damage...or at least place it on a tray of sorts...just my

It's just the nature of this particular beast.

Well, I suppose I didnt mention the fact that it fell near its own cord and could have started an electical fire, but i immediately unplugged it. It would need to have the cord replaced for me to even use it again as it was close enough (didnt even fall on the cord directly) that the heat melted/warped it.

 

[NinjaMindTriks]

I have read the sublimation thread and what I got out of it is that the downstem("atomizer") cannot be physically hotter than the bowl, its impossible.
But Enrico suggests its "super hot" down there, hotter than the bowl. If that were the case, it would be a problem, because small bits that get through the screen would surely combust.
So the added heat afterwords is actually cooler than the initial heat. In which case how much is that heat really doing?
A heated sub bowl works better but the upper bowl is really whats getting hot. not the atomizer.
What exactly is going on with the atomizer? We know the airflow is restricted, so is it adding turbulence? probably. my best guess is that air turbulence is likely all thats happening here.

is it going "beyond vaporization" by all accounts I'd have to say no.
and if it was doing what Enrico suggested it would probably result in combustion.




Well, I suppose I didnt mention the fact that it fell near its own cord and could have started an electical fire, but i immediately unplugged it. It would need to have the cord replaced for me to even use it again as it was close enough (didnt even fall on the cord directly) that the heat melted/warped it.

I will say that I do think that something different is going on with this vape than others, because I can take much bigger hits than I ever could before and barely even feel them in my throat. I do however feel them majorly in effects! Which seem to last much longer to me than my other vapes for the same amount of product. Unless you absolutely hate the Sub I would send it in for repair. Enrico said it was only 40$ for an element repair and $75 for a whole new wand in post #3229 in this thread, and that's after the 2 year warranty. I feel that is one of the cheapest replacement options out there too.

 

[Tweek]

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Well, I suppose I didnt mention the fact that it fell near its own cord and could have started an electical fire, but i immediately unplugged it. It would need to have the cord replaced for me to even use it again as it was close enough (didnt even fall on the cord directly) that the heat melted/warped it.

That sort of accident can happen with a variety of items in your home...I still don't think your house is going to go up in flames. That being said, Enrico will help you out if you want a replacement, as Ninja points out.

If you are set on the feeling that it is dangerous, sell it. I am sure someone will scoop it up.

I will say that I do think that something different is going on with this vape than others, because I can take much bigger hits than I ever could before and barely even feel them in my throat. I do however feel them majorly in effects! Which seem to last much longer to me than my other vapes for the same amount of product. Unless you absolutely hate the Sub I would send it in for repair. Enrico said it was only 40$ for an element repair and $75 for a whole new wand in post #3229 in this thread, and that's after the 2 year warranty. I feel that is one of the cheapest replacement options out there too.

It feels different, sure...but it's still a vape. That's my point, and the point of many others...the vapor is smoother, and may contain different actives due to the heated restriction...but it's not sublimating. But that's been debated to death already.

I don't think it needs to claim any miraculous process. The beauty is in its simplicity.

 

[NinjaMindTriks]

Totally agree Tweek. I do think that in all intensive purposes it is just a vape that quickly and very thoroughly, extracts the actives into an incredibly smooth vapor.

 

[jambandphan03]

Well, what ever it is doing, it's getting me beyond the thunderdome!