Discontinued The RBT Milaana (unregulated single 18650)

[bounce5]

I asked Vapexhale if they had any extra red silicone caps. They said they could send me a pair for $7.00. Seems a little bit steep. I haven't yet recieved my Milaana (I will on Friday!)

Do you guys think it's worth it to order the caps in order to protect the button on the Milaana? What do you think @Vape Dr. ? I was thinking those caps might inadvertently pull the button housing up and off by accident...would that be a potential risk?

 

[Oogendoogan]

I asked Vapexhale if they had any extra red silicone caps. They said they could send me a pair for $7.00. Seems a little bit steep. I haven't yet recieved my Milaana (I will on Friday!)

Do you guys think it's worth it to order the caps in order to protect the button on the Milaana? What do you think @Vape Dr. ? I was thinking those caps might inadvertently pull the button housing up and off by accident...would that be a potential risk?

The button caps work fine and won't pull off the botton. Like I really wouldn't worry about that but I don't think vapexhale sells the right ones anymore so be careful. @Vape Dr. gave me one of his caps from an older EVO and it fits but when I ordered my EVO last month the caps that came on that one, they are the air intake caps for the EVO btw, come on top and bottom of the glass bamboo. Anyways they are using a different size now because those won't fit on my milaana button the same.. like they are too small by a hair and won't stay on It's too bad I was hoping to have an extra.

 

[ZC]

The button housing is threaded into the wood, so I doubt the cap would pull it anywhere.

 

[AJS]

I asked Vapexhale if they had any extra red silicone caps. They said they could send me a pair for $7.00. Seems a little bit steep. I haven't yet recieved my Milaana (I will on Friday!)

Do you guys think it's worth it to order the caps in order to protect the button on the Milaana? What do you think @Vape Dr. ? I was thinking those caps might inadvertently pull the button housing up and off by accident...would that be a potential risk?

I use the 18650 battery caps that @Ratchett supplies at Delta3dStudios. They're like a buck, still need to pay shipping, so I would just snag something else cheap to make it seem worth it, like his doob tubes. Still should be around $5 I think shipped. They are...weird to put on the button. They slide off easily with a regular attempt to put them on, but if you push them up against the wood and hold it for a second, it's like it hugs it, and it'll sit in my pocket or on the desk all day and the cover will absolutely never come off, and requires quite a bit of force to reach the button. Can't promise the same results, as I believe I'm the only person to attempt to use these for button covers

How do fellas cash a whole load in one hit? Still having trouble with this. Does it combust?

I'll do my best later today to set up a video of a massive one rip killer (more like it's killin me in one rip).
Does it combust? Fuck that combustion shit We do it right!

It'll be easier if I cheat and do a primer hit that yields very little vapor but helps dry out the herb and heat up the unit. If that counts as a 2 hit killer, then that might make it more difficult. But with a primer it'll be very possible assuming that still counts as one rip haha.

 

[murf2010]

Looooove concentrates out of this thing. What is your guys method for concentrates. I use hempwick and it's amazing. Degummed.

 

[HD Springer]

It is a dud out of the box.

It gets warm, just not warm enough to vape. I have 5 batteries all fully charged. I have loaded it all ways and watched every video out there. Mine just doesn't vape.

Can you see if the nut and copper battery lid is getting super hot to the touch when your pressing the button. I wonder if your not losing power/heat to other areas.

 

[NinjaMindTriks]

Can you see if the nut and copper battery lid is getting super hot to the touch when your pressing the button. I wonder if your not losing power/heat to other areas.

Nope, not getting hot to touch.

 

[Czechyourhead]

I've tried using the older red caps from Vapexhale and they only partially work. They will stay on, but it is possible to fire up the heater with it on. I prefer to just take out the battery.

 

[Melting Pot]

So I got a surprise knock at the door. Dog ready to tear the door off the hinge.
Run out to a ups guy running to his truck pointing back ar package.145 Rotti sounds scarry i guess. Lol
Anyways this is what i got.

A little Mi porn
First impressions the bottom isn't a perfect match but I can live with.
All i had was some aw's for batts.
I got vapor but nothing to write home about, but I'm also comparing to zion.

I'm going to blame weak batts. for now more testing.
@DieHard should be here for long weekend so some good side by side testing plus zion will be in the house just to name a few.
Thanks RBT it was a nice surprise for the fourth.

Edit I applied bee's wax for photo's

 

[murf2010]

So I've bought a spare Milaana from someone who unfortunately burned it up leaving the button on.

I'm going to attempt to make a new body for it.

The bottom cap came off far too easily, as did the glass. I suspect the crazy amount of heat from the button being left on weakened the glue quite a bit. I've taken it all apart. taken out the button, the heater, the wires.

I'm at once impressed by the build quality and bewildered at how damn simple this thing is. You could make a Milaana equivalent with a quick trip to home depot and your local headshop.

But this thing is built very well, very carefully. The power leads to the heater are the only thing that leave the heating chamber. And the holes they follow to the rest of the circuitry are extremely tight, no air is going with them. Every aspect of the build has that level of care.

There's one aspect of the design I REALLY like. There's no solder. Every bit of wire or metal is screwed in, so I don't even have to question if it uses "lead free solder" or not. There's none there.

I'm excited to make my custom case, but admittedly it will probably be weeks or months before it's complete. I'm rather busy. In the meantime I'll be enjoying my stock Mi quite a bit. My other vapes go untouched. This thing is simple as hell, but still the most effective vape I've come across.

How do you
Leave a button on?? It's a push button

 

[AJS]

How do fellas cash a whole load in one hit? Still having trouble with this. Does it combust?

Tried to do a one hit KO with a primer first, but ended up having to cough too much so I couldn't finish it in one, but it's definitely possible. I got most of it for sure. The lighting really shows off the uneven browning more than I could see in person, the second hit wasn't bad at all and the end result after the stir showed a pretty even finish.

 

[Bravesst]

Puffitup (Randy) solo AA caps (not stock), fit nice and tight, creating suction.
BAMBAM

This faux book box keeps my Mi safe and hidden.

Side note: hadn't put in a clean stem in a while, relying on the heater to clean. Lazy I guess, but performance and taste lagged, also stays cooler (clean = less juice), and now, dejavu all over again - BamBam

I just got my names!!! Pebbles (1)and BamBam (2)

EDIT: I also took more time to dry herb a bit more, making for a much easier grind, and efficient vaping, with smoother taste and temp.

 

[buckhakeesah]

Woke up this morning to try my milaana that's been sitting for about a month. Batteries were fully charged. I used my original brown batteries that came with my unit. Worked good for about 3 draws and then all of a sudden the power went dead. Tried my other two yellow LG fresh batteries and was having mixed results. Sometimes it would heat up, other times not. First time I have experienced this. Its worked flawlessly til today. I ran another load to see if the problem persisted, it seems to start right up now and seems to be working normal again. Anyone ever experienced something like this before? I had it stored away in a dark cool spot. Batteries show fully charged on the nitecore.

 

[HD Springer]

Good video @AJS. I've been going the opposite direction with my usage with my mi. I have been loading bigger loads and getting long drawn out sessions. This is a better way for myself to use it on the road or when it's not easy to unload and load a bunch. I'm getting any where from 15-20 big hits. When I dump it's all evenly vaped. I do a simple 1 time stir where I pull the oustide of the load to the middle then a little tamp.
I will say this is not the best way to conserve battery power. Or mj as far as that goes.

My secrete to getting and keeping temp is by draw speed. That will regulate any and all temp fluctuations I'm desiring. It's an instant type reaction. I get my all around coolest vapor and best hits this way. This is why I love the shorty so much.

 

[murf2010]

Good video @AJS. I've been going the opposite direction with my usage with my mi. I have been loading bigger loads and getting long drawn out sessions. This is a better way for myself to use it on the road or when it's not easy to unload and load a bunch. I'm getting any where from 15-20 big hits. When I dump it's all evenly vaped. I do a simple 1 time stir where I pull the oustide of the load to the middle then a little tamp.
I will say this is not the best way to conserve battery power. Or mj as far as that goes.

My secrete to getting and keeping temp is by draw speed. That will regulate any and all temp fluctuations I'm desiring. It's an instant type reaction. I get my all around coolest vapor and best hits this way. This is why I love the shorty so much.

Do you vape while driving? I'm super nervous to do that haha, that's a dui I believe. Really serious

 

[killick]

@murf2010 It's only a DUI if you are using it as an intoxicant. Many med users are 30 or 40x the magical number without breaking a sweat...

 

[HD Springer]

Do you vape while driving? I'm super nervous to do that haha, that's a dui I believe. Really serious

Shit who's driving. I only ride. Knuckles facing the sun son.



Sorry couldn't resist. Ill never claim to break any laws. Hehe

 

[murf2010]

@murf2010 It's only a DUI if you are using it as an intoxicant. Many med users are 30 or 40x the magical number without breaking a sweat...

I don't know what that even means haha

 

[Bravesst]

Good video @AJS. I've been going the opposite direction with my usage with my mi. I have been loading bigger loads and getting long drawn out sessions. This is a better way for myself to use it on the road or when it's not easy to unload and load a bunch. I'm getting any where from 15-20 big hits. When I dump it's all evenly vaped. I do a simple 1 time stir where I pull the oustide of the load to the middle then a little tamp.
I will say this is not the best way to conserve battery power. Or mj as far as that goes.

My secrete to getting and keeping temp is by draw speed. That will regulate any and all temp fluctuations I'm desiring. It's an instant type reaction. I get my all around coolest vapor and best hits this way. This is why I love the shorty so much.

Exactly, great description

 

[ZC]

How do you
Leave a button on?? It's a push button

Either putting it down on a messy desk where something happens to be pushing against the button or putting it in your bag.

This has happened to several members unfortunately. It's why the guitar pick mod has been invented and why RBT recommends you remove the battery when not using the Mi.

 

[Dramma Lamma]

Just got my shipment.

As someone who know a fair bit of woodworking, Ill say the finish here is pretty bad.

Not rough, bad.

How is it that one side of the unit is smoothly sanded, and the other is rough to the touch?

You can clearly see and feel where the planer stepped down on my unit.

The top was not even sanded in the slightest.

Now really I COULD overlook that and just chalk it up to me being picky.

But the fucking battery doesn't fit.

SERIOUSLY?!?!?!?!?

It fails to make contact with the copper plate due to the wrapping on the battery.

The fix here is simple, the battery chamber needs to be a tad deeper.
Or a larger deeper dent in the copper plate.
Or include more shims so the plate can rest on them, not the battery wrapping.
How the fuck is is that I've found so many solutions to this issue within the time I can still edit this post, but the manufacturer can't.

Now here I am tweaking the copper plate to make it contact, using both hands to run a device that should need 1 finger.

This is pathetic.



EDIT: Found a nut in the garage which just so happens to have the right threading and height dimension to offset the copper plate and it now makes contact properly as well as snugly holding the battery against the spring. Fixed.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Just got my shipment.

As someone who know a fair bit of woodworking, Ill say the finish here is pretty bad.

Not rough, bad.

How is it that one side of the unit is smoothly sanded, and the other is rough to the touch?

You can clearly see and feel where the planer stepped down on my unit.

No part of the routing is smooth or even, whatsoever.

The top was not even sanded in the slightest.

Now really I COULD overlook that and just chalk it up to me being picky.

But the fucking battery doesn't fit.

SERIOUSLY?!?!?!?!?

It fails to make contact with the copper plate due to the wrapping on the battery.

The fix here is simple, the battery chamber needs to be a tad deeper.
Or a larger deeper dent in the copper plate.
Or include more shims so the plate can rest on them, not the battery wrapping.
How the fuck is is that I've found so many solutions to this issue within the time I can still edit this post, but the manufacturer can't.

Now here I am tweaking the copper plate to make it contact, using both hands to run a device that should need 1 finger.

This is pathetic.

Some mentioned how the contact might be depressed, it can be raised with a paper clip @Vape Dr. posted how to do. But an easier fix might be to just remove one of the two washers underneath the copper battery door. That should help it make contact without you holding it down, not sure what you mean about the battery wrapping though if you said deeper would fix that and not wider?

Sorry your experience has been less than stellar to say the least so far, hopefully it works out for you in the end though. I hope the finish keeps improving on these units since Zions and my first beta were super smooth hand sanded, but I believe these are more mass produced... seems like they must be finished by the end user if desired as some have done here.

Good luck, hope this helps

 

[Shannock]

Milaana Down! Heater glass came unglued and then detached the other night, it's an early one with non-recessed glass before you newer owners panic! I think mine even has the first run white glue so I guess it was only a matter of time.

I'm international so have filled in the form as I need a couple of details for the postal services before my Milaana goes to visit the folks. Obviously I'm hoping this is a one off visit as shipping back and forth over the Atlantic is an ongoing cost I could do without, does anybody know if my unit will be brought up to current spec or just have another load of glue slapped on and sent back?

At least I have my Triihouse family to fall back on, the waiting starts again!

 

[Bravesst]

Suc

Just got my shipment.

As someone who know a fair bit of woodworking, Ill say the finish here is pretty bad.

Not rough, bad.

How is it that one side of the unit is smoothly sanded, and the other is rough to the touch?

You can clearly see and feel where the planer stepped down on my unit.

The top was not even sanded in the slightest.

Now really I COULD overlook that and just chalk it up to me being picky.

But the fucking battery doesn't fit.

SERIOUSLY?!?!?!?!?

It fails to make contact with the copper plate due to the wrapping on the battery.

The fix here is simple, the battery chamber needs to be a tad deeper.
Or a larger deeper dent in the copper plate.
Or include more shims so the plate can rest on them, not the battery wrapping.
How the fuck is is that I've found so many solutions to this issue within the time I can still edit this post, but the manufacturer can't.

Now here I am tweaking the copper plate to make it contact, using both hands to run a device that should need 1 finger.

This is pathetic.



EDIT: Found a nut in the garage which just so happens to have the right threading and height dimension to offset the copper plate and it now makes contact properly as well as snugly holding the battery against the spring. Fixed.

That blows... I had the same issues, plus the bottom plate fell off, and the glass cracked. Mi one is dead in the water, spare parts at best. Quality control sucks, on finish for sure. I have plane marks on BamBam, the edges aren't just rough, but there is one corner edge that wasn't fully sanded and goes from round to hard 90 right around the button. All sanding / finishing issues... but, and it's a big but (love big butts)...

The simplicity and effectiveness of this vape goes beyond finish. Hopefully this will all improve. In the meantime, enjoy it.

 

[utekai]

It's interesting to compare the start up costs and manufacturing philosophy that are behind the milaana as compared to, say, the grasshopper.

The gh, as evidenced in the videos posted, requires lots of steps to manufacture, special metals, unique battery, hi cost machines (that they're really proud of), lots of precision steps (that are easy to mess up and hard to get right) and many, many modifications to the manufacturing process along the way just so they can get out a product that is fairly trouble free. Six sigma is likely going to be in their future to maintain quality.

The milaana on the other hand is a chunk of unfinished wood with some holes drilled in it. Then some off-the-shelf parts are jammed in it. A piece of wood is glued on the bottom. Done ... and out of that simplicity falls a pretty damn good vaporizer.

Now, some people might be buying high tech purposely, sucked into the hype, but really just wanting a good vaporizer. When I compare the performance of the milaana as compared to the gh, milaana wins in almost every category. There is a specific use case where the gh fills the niche better, but the milaana ends up in my hand much more frequently than the gh (which does end up in my hand, but normally just because it's nice to fondle, but a bit of a pain to use frequently).

So for high tech feel in the hand, the gh comes into play. For just pure vaporization and ease of use, the milaana pushes the gh aside and rather quickly and completely.

Anyway, I wonder who's made the better business decisions here? I mean, due to their heavy investment in the process and in manufacturing machines to support a very lengthy, specific and precision manufacturing process, GHL is now weighed down and going to be stuck doing exactly what they're doing right now for a long time (if possible). Just having put this all in place (heavy and now fixed investment) means they're sort of stymied in that they can't move fast and need also to recover that large investment. I think they're more or less in a corner.

The business behind milaana on the other hand, clearly has very limited investment, and the returns on that can let them easily move in any direction.

As a business positioned for the future, ghl seems hobbled. But they've done an excellent job on marketing, I mean except for some here and on reddit, who's ever heard of a milaana? On the other hand, who hasn't been exposed to ghl's marketing?

RBT has done an excellent job of providing a basic, flexible and powerful portable vape, without the costly high tech and without any difficult design or manufacturing. But no one is going to just look at it and say "Wow, that's high tech!". Well, not until they take a hit or two anyway. I'd call it "smart tech".

There is beauty in simplicity, and cost in 'high tech' that doesn't always result in high performance. RBT really stands to profit if their marketing strategy can take off, which they're apparently going to do via distributors.