Discontinued The RBT Milaana (unregulated single 18650)

[AJS]

http://www.planetvape.ca/milaana-vaporizer.html
Look what I found is in stock

Edit: out of stock button removed, but says will ship 5/31
Price is about $184 American.

 

[Oogendoogan]

http://www.planetvape.ca/milaana-vaporizer.html
Look what I found is in stock

Edit: out of stock button removed, but says will ship 5/31
Price is about $184 American.

Wow that's not bad and it's actually really close to what I paid with shipping. Really glad I got a production unit.. I would hate to have to send this thing in to get it worked on and mine seems pretty seemless in the way it was put together. I guess we will see if planet vapes look different, but hopefully this is good news and means that soon enough the Zion will be up for a fair price
Edit: just got my 18to18 male to male and the 18/14 from OGB, they are nice and fat and fit in the unit perfectly, screens also fit!!! But not all the way down.. Like the screen stays in good but when you push it towards the bottom of the joint it is too loose down there to hold it. This just means I have to use basket style with these which is fine. So now that I have a reliable 18/14 adapter I placed an order from vape fiend for a micro bomb. It's like the f bomb but instead of the shower head style diffuser it has a matrix style. This will hopefully fullfill my dreams of a log vape sized hit, through water, completely portable and on the go i forsure recommend ppl with male to male issues go to OGB(Oregon glass blower) and request us jointed adapters and ask him to make them fat so screens can fit. I even mentioned the milaana when I ordered mine. Good luck everyone.
Cheers!

 

[shaolinmilk]

Err I spent too much on vapes this past year... Why does PV have it in stock already!? Right now on rotation, I have the Supreme V3, EVO and Mighty. Would adding the Milaana be perfect as a 4th vape in my rotation?

@WakeAndVape How often do you use your Mighty now since receiving the Milaana?

 

[Smoke1ForMe]

Err I spent too much on vapes this past year... Why does PV have it in stock already!? Right now on rotation, I have the Supreme V3, EVO and Mighty. Would adding the Milaana be perfect as a 4th vape in my rotation?

I own an Evo and have used it once since I got my Milaana and prior to that it was my daily driver.

Edit: Not saying it's replaced my Evo it's just so much more convenient to grab and run a couple bowls through. I'll use my Evo if I have friends over.

 

[fluffhead]

PPS - had like 3 draws on a fresh stem last night. The 2nd draw was really wispy... because the stem was empty... again...

I've done that. With a slightly dirty but empty stem, I still have gotten a bit of vapour.

Sat there trying to milk my bubbler for a solid 12-15 seconds before realizing no battery.

I did something similar but with my guitar pick set in place. I didn't understand why the vapour wasn't getting warmer. I guess this is a good sign the guitar pick mod works. Thanks @Vape Dr.

I own an Evo and have used it once since I got my Milaana and prior to that it was my daily driver.

That is the same number of times than I have used my Evo since I got my Milaana, and that was just to check how well extracted a Milaana load was. I find the vapour much easier on my lungs from the Milaana and I find the whole experience much better.

I have now honed a pretty good technique for even browning (or yellowing) of my bowl. I never have to stir when using my Milaana dry, and only rarely have to turn the soil when going through water (generally when I had put a dab on top). I rotate my stem on each hit with the greenest part of the load facing the air intake/battery. I noticed that when I had a very very slow draw the hot spot was in the middle. I also noticed that when I had a fast draw, the hot spot was on the outside of the load closest to the air intake/battery. What I do now is start very, very slowly and then ramp up the speed up my draw. For cloud chasers, this has also provided the thickest vapour I've gotten on my Milaana. That's not my end goal, but I know it is a draw for some people.

It has taken me practice to be able to use that draw to control and stabilize the temperature. When using water, going through a bubbler that lets me see the vapour form can help me know whether I am staying ahead of the heater or falling behind it. This can help me know whether to speed up or slow down.

My end result is rather even avb with thorough extraction for the temp. I might get a few lighter flecks(but not usually the darker ones), but generally it is quite even

 

[KeroZen]

I have some intuition about a possible link between the air intake and the hotspot size and location, but it's too early to tell....

Could you guys experiment with different stuff blocking the air intake? Like cotton or mesh instead of the screen, and without anything as well? My Mi is over the Atlantic right now...

I also think that it's less likely to happen when hitting the device dry. For those having hot spots, can you please tell if it's only when using through water or if you get them all the time? Thanks.

 

[Vape Dr.]

I have some intuition about a possible link between the air intake and the hotspot size and location, but it's too early to tell....

Could you guys experiment with different stuff blocking the air intake? Like cotton or mesh instead of the screen, and without anything as well? My Mi is over the Atlantic right now...

I also think that it's less likely to happen when hitting the device dry. For those having hot spots, can you please tell if it's only when using through water or if you get them all the time? Thanks.

@KeroZen I have tried:
stock mesh
hemp fiber
just a screen cover

I have tried a combination of all of these in every way possible.

I settled on the stock mesh with the screen over it to clean the look up a bit.

I have found that no matter what, there is a "hot" spot whether dry or through water and it is the part of the heater closest to the button on my unit.

It is not a big deal but I just took a massive rip for you and it is darkest near the button.
Turn the stem 180 degrees same "hot" spot.

Simply rotating your stem clockwise or counter clockwise just a bit after a draw works very well for me with no combustion or charring, keeping the flavor alive!

It is surprising to hear people getting 3-4 draws from their stem. I have my screen flat style not basket and it is pushed as far back from the tip half full. I prime for 2 seconds (I don't need the 2 sec prime on fresh batteries), hit for 5 seconds, let go of the button and continue to draw another 5 seconds.

I get great taste nice bluish clouds and between 8-10 draws per chamber consistently with beautiful ABV.

By the way, My first Milaana came with LG HE4 batteries (yellow) and my second Milanna came with LG HG2 (brown) batteries.

They both work amazingly but the more I mess around I notice the HG2 batteries have more power from a fresh charge, but after a few draws they seem to act the same as the HE4.

The SONY VTC-5 battery seems to stay the same through the whole battery, no up when fully charged, then settle a bit as it's used. Very predictable.

 

[AJS]

I have some intuition about a possible link between the air intake and the hotspot size and location, but it's too early to tell....

Could you guys experiment with different stuff blocking the air intake? Like cotton or mesh instead of the screen, and without anything as well? My Mi is over the Atlantic right now...

I also think that it's less likely to happen when hitting the device dry. For those having hot spots, can you please tell if it's only when using through water or if you get them all the time? Thanks.

Only when using water for the most part. I can hotspot if I really want to dry, but the temperature is just too high.

I think, we're looking for THICKER clouds, not bigger clouds, which requires higher temps when going through water. People need to realize that with high airflow devices, clouds do not look as thick in the bubbler because more vapor is followed by more airflow which clears the bubbler. In the end, you get a bigger hit, but it looks thinner in the bubbler because there is more air. Or maybe that's just me...I know I definitely forget and try to get it whiter than how a high airflow device should get. That "whiter" is hotter. Gotta tone it down sometimes or pull a bit harder to cool down.

Edit: for reference, (and reminder), I have my screen as close to the heater as possible and basket style filled anywhere from half to full.

 

[Shit Snacks]

@KeroZen I have tried:
stock mesh
hemp fiber
just a screen cover

I have tried a combination of all of these in every way possible.

I settled on the stock mesh with the screen over it to clean the look up a bit.

I have found that no matter what, there is a "hot" spot whether dry or through water and it is the part of the heater closest to the button on my unit.

It is not a big deal but I just took a massive rip for you and it is darkest near the button.
Turn the stem 180 degrees same "hot" spot.

Simply rotating your stem clockwise or counter clockwise just a bit after a draw works very well for me with no combustion or charring, keeping the flavor alive!

It is surprising to hear people getting 3-4 draws from their stem. I have my screen flat style not basket and it is pushed as far back from the tip half full. I prime for 2 seconds (I don't need the 2 sec prime on fresh batteries), hit for 5 seconds, let go of the button and continue to draw another 5 seconds.

I get great taste nice bluish clouds and between 8-10 draws per chamber consistently with beautiful ABV.

By the way, My first Milaana came with LG HE4 batteries (yellow) and my second Milanna came with LG HG2 (brown) batteries.

They both work amazingly but the more I mess around I notice the HG2 batteries have more power from a fresh charge, but after a few draws they seem to act the same as the HE4.

The SONY VTC-5 battery seems to stay the same through the whole battery, no up when fully charged, then settle a bit as it's used. Very predictable.

Interesting its on the opposite side of the air intake for you though, same on both units?

The finalized units only have the screen for the air intake filter, so officially the steel mesh will just be concentrate mesh really.

Also interesting about the battery differences, the Sonys sound neat, I'll stick with LGs

I should have a finalized production unit at some point to compare to my rough beta that was one of he original Milaanas ever made... collectable is right!

 

[flotntoke]

My hotspots are on the button side, too. Usually easily avoided by spinning a 1/4 turn between hits.

Was thinking about this issue while hitting the Mi on my way home. I don't hit my Mi straight perpendicular, and guess most don't. I wonder if the hotspots are created because the heat is coming straight up from the heater through the F-GonG, then we're forcing it to travel up the side because of the tilt. The straight path is changed and we kind of trap more of the heat on the higher side of the load (higher on the tilt).

I haven't had a chance to run a few loads while holding everything straight up and down. Will have to check that out. But, I assume people hit it differently. I've tried both ways... Use thumb on button, so button is towards ground on hit. Use finger on button and it is pointed towards the sky. So, wonder if the hotspot moves depending on orientation. I find ring finger on button most comfortable, so button is up. Hotspot is on button side. Does anyone thumb button, instead? If you get hot spots, are they on the battery side?

Eh maybe I'm just stoned, but noticed a few recent reports of hot spots on different sides and had just been buzzedly thinking about it.

 

[fluffhead]

I have some intuition about a possible link between the air intake and the hotspot size and location, but it's too early to tell....

Could you guys experiment with different stuff blocking the air intake? Like cotton or mesh instead of the screen, and without anything as well? My Mi is over the Atlantic right now...

I also think that it's less likely to happen when hitting the device dry. For those having hot spots, can you please tell if it's only when using through water or if you get them all the time? Thanks.

In my air intake I have a bit of the mesh, covered by a bit of ss mesh from a filter, covered by a screen. For me a hotspot that is cooked darker than the rest of the load is the product of pulling too hard. In that case the hot spot is quite concentrated near the intake/battery area. I don't have them any more but when I did, they came more often when using water than dry.

It is surprising to hear people getting 3-4 draws from their stem. I have my screen flat style not basket and it is pushed as far back from the tip half full. I prime for 2 seconds (I don't need the 2 sec prime on fresh batteries), hit for 5 seconds, let go of the button and continue to draw another 5 seconds.

I get great taste nice bluish clouds and between 8-10 draws per chamber consistently with beautiful ABV.

I can finish a load in 2-3 draws, but only through water at a higher temperature. Also my loads are .09. Using the method I outlined above increasing the draw speed, the clouds get thick and extraction is quite thorough. However, most of my usage is more aligned to getting 8-10 draws of low temp smooth vapour.

 

[Shit Snacks]

My hotspots are on the button side, too. Usually easily avoided by spinning a 1/4 turn between hits.

Was thinking about this issue while hitting the Mi on my way home. I don't hit my Mi straight perpendicular, and guess most don't. I wonder if the hotspots are created because the heat is coming straight up from the heater through the F-GonG, then we're forcing it to travel up the side because of the tilt. The straight path is changed and we kind of trap more of the heat on the higher side of the load (higher on the tilt).

I haven't had a chance to run a few loads while holding everything straight up and down. Will have to check that out. But, I assume people hit it differently. I've tried both ways... Use thumb on button, so button is towards ground on hit. Use finger on button and it is pointed towards the sky. So, wonder if the hotspot moves depending on orientation. I find ring finger on button most comfortable, so button is up. Hotspot is on button side. Does anyone thumb button, instead? If you get hot spots, are they on the battery side?

Eh maybe I'm just stoned, but noticed a few recent reports of hot spots on different sides and had just been buzzedly thinking about it.

Ive actually hit it every which way, side ways (pipe style) like that mostly, but also with battery faced up and button faced down, I dono my hotspot always seemed pretty center no matter what, but honestly I think am just very attuned to the draw technique by now so it is never really an issue using alone. When using with others it can be different...

 

[friedrich]

I've been getting good results with less and less stirring needed. The key is the very slow draw; otherwise there's a hot spot and performance suffers.

This is without any stirring, and no purposeful rotation:

 

[Moe_]

Is the Zion more powerful where you can rip it more like an LSV?

 

[AJS]

Is the Zion more powerful where you can rip it more like an LSV?

Was just asking myself the same thing, and remembered @IAmKrazy2 could outpower his heaters, including his lsv I believe?

I think we need the TOD

 

[DieHard]

Here's my concentrate solution that I'm using with my Production Zion. It uses 2 RBT screens baskets away from each other. In between is a W9tech Mouthpiece screen (SS disc with tiny laser cut holes). Inside the exposed basket is a piece of Hercules SS coil. I don't have Milaana yet but I will be trying this when it arrives.

 

[IAmKrazy2]

Was just asking myself the same thing, and remembered @IAmKrazy2 could outpower his heaters, including his lsv I believe?

I think we need the TOD

With much effort i can overpower either through a large tube. I have to try, but it doesn't hold heat as well as a heat soaked Evo or the Supreme. This is something i would never notice through normal use.

The TOD has more top end power. But doesn't flat line like the Zion making thr power slightly harder to harness perfectly while taking a giant lung buster

 

[Vapington]

so PV is shipping these out 5/31 while preorders made directly from RBT are shipping by 7/6, and for the same price?

 

[Shit Snacks]

so PV is shipping these out 5/31 while preorders made directly from RBT are shipping by 7/6, and for the same price?

There are no more pre orders open right now as far as I know, but that delay is likely because wholesale orders came in before the latest possible pre orders, planetvape clearly did and is only place to buy now

 

[vaplen]

@IAmKrazy2 you should make a video of doing that with the lsv....

Milaana is running smoothly of course. The portability, convenience and predictability are so nice once you get used to her

 

[killick]

When Zion first hit the desk I using it while the session vape heated up. I haven't used a session vape for a couple of weeks now. Zion is in garage while fit some gel contact cement to reattach bowl, so Milly is doing the heavy lifting, with a bit of Dynavap Ti for fun.

I should take a pic of abv some time. It seems to be a lot darker than what I'm seeing in photos. Flirting with disaster?

 

[IAmKrazy2]

@IAmKrazy2 you should make a video of doing that with the lsv....

Milaana is running smoothly of course. The portability, convenience and predictability are so nice once you get used to her

LSV was sold a few years back. It just didn't see enough use.

 

[Vape Dr.]

A little off topic but holy crap what a game!
LET'S GO PENS!

WOOOOOOOOO!

 

[AJS]

A little off topic but holy crap what a game!
LET'S GO PENS!

WOOOOOOOOO!

Booo
Lightning only got me 1 Milaana Bowl that game. You can bet your ass i packed more though.

 

[hippogriff]

Week of Firewood want awry. GREAT session w the Crafty Cooling Unit (endless draws from 1/2 capsule, strong log-vape effects) then got cocky and tried a dog-walking session and failed, it's always been a sitting vape for me, can't reliably get the draw right in motion. Felt like I'd confirmed the Firewood is a great vape, and the Milaana is my preference. Firewood has better fit & finish, more compact in size and parts, pocket safe and really nice 1-button interface w adjustable temp ranges. Milaana is a performance upgrade, smoother and more powerful, better/stronger log-vape high w extra versatility, capable of faster-than-Grasshopper delivery.

Today I ran the dog-walking test w my Milaana, 3rd & 4th stems on a battery while walking at a full march; absolutely nailed it, the wide open air path makes it easier than running the same test w my Grasshopper.

Abandoning tests, Milaana's my vape, let me know if there's some specific you'd like me to hit in comparison, but I already know Milaana has similar-but-better flavor/effects to Firewood, and similar-but-better power/speed to Grasshopper. Both the other vapes have more refined form (i.e. more compact & discreet) and may fit some folks use better, Milaana's the best for me.