I'm sure it will be here sooner or later. I'm not upset, but the waiting for buttons got me going a bit. I hope they are using the same button moving forward, as everyone seems to like the current one and it doesn't seem to be a source of any problems. Anyways back to the stellar user reports, sorry this came up.
It will be the same button because there is no other button that can handle the current needed for an unregulated 18650. I know this because it is the same button used in the FlashVAPE. The developer of the FV told me that he had to search for a long time to find a button that could survive, and he could find only one. This means that ultimately it is a single source part, with all of the risks that implies.
the information is useful nonetheless. some might think it's an indication of how they will be treated as customers. others may not.
If you want to ignore the fact that PlanetVape will be selling to individuals and handling customer service, feel free.
Why should FC be a place for RBT to make money, disrespect members, make loose promises, ect and have non favorable exposure swept under the rug of informaction deemed useful?
No one should have that power, nor should we give it them.
I don't think you've been paying attention, or perhaps you've just been highly selective in your reading.
RBT isn't making money from FC. He's posted his sales numbers and they're pathetic, which is why he realized that he had to switch from developing the Zion, which will never be a mass market device, to the Milaana, which has the potential to be. Claiming that non-favourable exposure is swept under the rug simply makes you look as biased as you claim others to be.
As for who should have "that power", you agreed when you registered to follow the rules, which include:
- Rules are interpreted and applied at staff discretion.
- Public discussions of staff decisions are not permitted on the site. If you have any concerns or queries relating to a staff decision please take it up in private with a staff member.
- If you don’t like the rules or the moderation, feel free not to visit.
Some questions you just don't ask. This is one of those questions.
That's true. I suspect your reason for saying that doesn't match the actual reason, however. Making blatantly false claims about how we sweep unfavourable discussion under the rug violates the second rule above, in case you didn't notice.
Been a long time lurker here but finally decided to make an account. After reading thread after thread, the tone and bullshit in this thread really struck me. The mods would normally ban users for negative comments as this community is a friendly one, and an informative one. The fact that RBT is basically given the right to shit on people... I see pakolo has some explaining to do.
Alas, there will be no explanation as he's the mod, and he's getting to try this "amazing" vaporizer at the expense of the forum. How can someone like Ed get pissed off? One of the nicest guys ever. RBT even pissed off randy from piu. Randy is the bro, always there to help smh. I honestly do not see the point in supporting this asshole. I see my purchases as support for the developers and I see no need to support this developer. Just my
as I really liked this community long ago but not with the way it's turning out to be. The mods do not even attempt to give any response for their actions. I guess I could ask why it matters; ignorance is bliss.
I strongly believe the mods should have taken action long ago when the zions weren't shipped and the production of the Milaana started. Sadly, such was not the case and RBT will continue to lie to those who believe in him. Maybe not shitsnacks tho cuz he seems fine that he's one of the few with a working model. One's own needs before others I guess. Too bad I won't see one of these-18650's in a good convection vape is hard to come by. Guess I'll just settle for the Venus Apollo.
So you decided to make an account just to break the rules. Welcome to FC. If you wanted to conduct a serious attack, you probably should have at least tried to get your facts straight.
We don't ban anyone for negative comments, we hand out warning points. Accumulate 5 of them and you get a permanent ban. I'm sure that it's no surprise that you've already collected your first.
@RastaBuddhaTao has never made a post that attacked anyone. You might interpret the actions he has taken in his business as shitting on people, but we don't get to moderate anything but his posts. On the other hand, I can quote many posts from this thread that attack
RBT directly, and some of them have even earned points. Many haven't, because despite the accusations of bias towards
RBT, we've actually been quite lenient on the detractors. Claiming that "the mods" don't attempt to explain their actions is pure nonsense. First, you didn't mean "the mods", you meant me. Second, I've repeatedly explained my actions in this thread but of course, I will never be able to satisfy some of you. I don't know what actions "we" should have taken that "we" didn't. All "we" could do is move the thread back into the Upcoming section, which
I did.
Don't see the irony pal. Unfortunately crabs aren't born with a sense of irony and I'm a hermit. I honestly thought one of the responsibilities of the mods was to look down upon shady business. Doesn't shady business hurt the forum?
That is understandable and all, but we're unfortunately all human and subject to temptations. Who wouldn't be tempted to "look the other way" for a free Milaana? I sure as hell would. To clarify I'm not saying all the mods are bad or anything like that, just specific people doing specific things that they shouldn't. From what I've seen many of those banned were those ridiculing RBT for his business techniques, all complaints of which are considerably justifiable.
Unfortunately Ed I feel as though we're all getting dissed...we just don't know it yet.
Nobody has been banned for criticizing
RBT. Most of the points handed out in here (there haven't been many) have been given by other moderators, not me. When I have awarded a point, it has been for obvious reasons exactly because I want to be able to defend myself from false accusations like yours. Justifiable complaints—and there have been many—have been allowed to stand and in fact, an unbiased observer would conclude that the moderators have been ignoring our rules to allow the
RBT bashing to continue.
We have rules against bashing companies because we don't want FC to be a platform for people to bully and blackmail manufacturers and vendors. Those rules haven't really been enforced in this thread, yet people like you continue to believe that we're protecting
RBT. Apparently we are supposed to let people attack him as much as they like, and that is how we promote harmony within the community. I find this line of reasoning bizarre, to say the least.
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then!
and to my credit I'm not doing it here on this site. No one wants to see the gripes in this thread......would kill the "vibe" and would be "getting off track."
hope he takes the advice given.