Discontinued The RBT Milaana (unregulated single 18650)

[nondarb]

I don't know really, it was the case with Zion already: yes you can combust, but you really need to like "playing with fire" (pun intended) to do it. When hitting it dry you usually know well in advance that you are in the process of overdoing it. The Mi with fresh battery is like a Zi set to full power but again if you pay attention to what you are doing it should be fine.

I think most combustion reports were either from testers purposedly pushing their device to the limit and/or users with elephant lungs hitting their device through large water bongs where there is a lag between the vapor produced and the vapor you inhale (you have to clear all that volume before tasting that it's too late...)

I really hope you're wrong about the heater. I want the ability to combust and not have to work for it, when I heard MFLSV or electric Lily that's what I was expecting. To be clear I'm not wanting to combust, but I walk a fine line. Hopefully the unit I get back runs hot.

I'm a little discouraged seeing everyone saying "its easy".

 

[nosmoking]

I have tried an enail once so my concentrate experience is really only in the method of flower sandwich or direct dab from the Hammer Pro or direct dab using a nectar collector with a quartz dish. Whiile I liked all of these methods I will not use them ever again. The enail experience was my best dabbing experience so far and I am not really sure the Mi can compare or not as I only have one experience from 2-3 months ago, however the Mi will be my preferred use for concentrate from now on. Maybe one day I will get an enail but not anytime soon.

@nondarb Rest assured the heat is there...it's just really really easy to read the vapor. You can get it nice and hot let off the button and still feel the heat that is retained even, push the button and feel a new blast of heat coming in. The manual part of this vape makes it easy to control. This is how vaping should be as my buddy @HD Springer mentioned yesterday. Don't confuse "easy to not combust" with "hard to combust" as those two are not the same with this device!

 

[nondarb]

@nondarb Rest assured the heat is there...it's just really really easy to read the vapor. You can get it nice and hot let off the button and still feel the heat that is retained even, push the button and feel a new blast of heat coming in. The manual part of this vape makes it easy to control. This is how vaping should be as my buddy @HD Springer mentioned yesterday. Don't confuse "easy to not combust" with "hard to combust" as those two are not the same with this device!

Keep in mind I've already received a (potentially damaged?) Mi I had to send back. What you are saying and what others are saying doesn't gel, but I hope you're right.

Good news is Ryan's supposed to be checking out my Mi today to diagnose the issue, I still feel fairly optimistic in thinking the heater simply shifted a little in rough transport.

 

[Mulehead]

With preorders about to catch up, let's get back to exotics!
Who has my golden white teak burl Milaana?!?!
I'm talking to you @Snappo,
@RastaBuddhaTao, and @Ed's TnT!
Snappo & Ed, have you explained the seriousness of WAS with RBT?
I know we have quite a few sick & twisted members here that own multiple exotic logs that are highly infected!
Having an exotic option seems like the gift that keeps on giving to a manufacturer.

I know it's been discussed here, but now is the time!
It will increase sales!
Keep past customers happy, while keeping them current customers.
Snappo has an almost effortless process (for customer anyway)
with other manufacturers already in place.

Cmon RBT please use my wood to build my Milaana!
You know it almost sounds painful when you say it like that!


@nondarb, IMO no smoking is dead on. The easy to read vapor feedback makes dialing extraction of YOUR favorite cannabinoids, be it high temp, low temp, or somewhere in between.
I tried some shatter on the supplied filter material with great results!
I actually found myself still feathering the throttle a bit, on a fresh battery, which told me I had heat/power to spare.
You'll enjoy toeing the line with flowers, I know I do!

 

[pakalolo]

I love this button, so I will go ahead and be the first to say. Way to go fucking this up @RastaBuddhaTao. With the out of order shipping, surprise shipping and now not having buttons he really made a shit show of the Milaana launch. I still personally have high hopes for RBT as well as his products but he really needs to learn from this, or Sheila better be good at her job and better come on full time. This was only 100 vaporizers and he is expecting to be able to manufacture 50 a week or something like that I believe. Get it together man! Get a system and follow it! You have created some unbelievable tech, but you have to be able to deliver.

After one night and one morning drive in with the Mi I can confidently say she is worth the frustration. I was relocated in the line as well and it was frustrating to watch. I can't say that is anything close to the frustration I would be feeling if I was one of those early orders that were domestic or international that have not received their units yet. Find a way guys, hang in there!

He has a system, and it's a pretty good one. I've had a Skype tour of it. You are ranting out of massive ignorance, and you are pushing against the edges of our Be Nice rule. Please restrain yourself.

 

[Shit Snacks]

I really hope you're wrong about the heater. I want the ability to combust and not have to work for it, when I heard MFLSV or electric Lily that's what I was expecting. To be clear I'm not wanting to combust, but I walk a fine line. Hopefully the unit I get back runs hot.

I'm a little discouraged seeing everyone saying "its easy".

Haha reverse problems, I love it. Yeah if you are hard on the trigger it is also easy to get a full extraction in the center. I prefer controlling my hits by laying off the button sooner and using the residual heat, but I am a low temp vaper. Passing it in a group of newbies I watched one go hard on the trigger with strong draw and she exhaled a very thick massive dense cloud, that made me need to stir bc a dark hotspot was formed, yet no combustion had occured. Don't worry bud, when you get it back working proper you should be able to push your Mi without any trouble as well (again my beta is even running cooler than production), could be a minimal push too, maybe just a nudge

 

[WakeAndVape]

Nightmare scenario: milaana arrives tomorrow with the four batteries and charger I ordered from amazon...

Charge everything up and have a cool running heater. I know it's unlikely, but that would surely be the vape gods playing a twisted joke after the wait.

I probably will sleep light tonight.

If everything works as it should: the arrival of a FUNCTIONING unit will land on the first day of a five day weekend...if so

... Hella milaana porn in my near furture.

 

[Ed's TnT]

With preorders about to catch up, let's get back to exotics!
Who has my golden white teak burl Milaana?!?!
I'm talking to you @Snappo,
@RastaBuddhaTao, and @Ed's TnT!
Snappo & Ed, have you explained the seriousness of WAS with RBT?

I was wondering when this question would be asked, I am sorry to let you down but I am not working with RBT, I may make stems for it in the future but right now have a ton of work to get caught up on. Thank you.

 

[nosmoking]

I would also like a second Milaana in an exotic wood. I would pay for that today if @Ed's TnT or @RastaBuddhaTao would give us the option. I can understand you being busy right now @Ed's TnT but I would love to give you more work on top of your work, that's all.

@pakalolo It was all meant with love and respect! I will restrain myself from here on out, however I don't think it is appropriate for a moderator to call a forum member ignorant especially when what you refer to as massive ignorance could really just be a lack of inside information. We have not all had the pleasure of a Skype tour of what RBT is doing.

 

[Shit Snacks]

I would also like a second Milaana in an exotic wood. I would pay for that today if @Ed's TnT or @RastaBuddhaTao would give us the option. I can understand you being busy right now @Ed's TnT but I would love to give you more work on top of your work, that's all.

If exotics do become possible, I'd imagine we are like a year away at least, the Maple must sell very well for that to happen probably, and likely will cost much more of course. I am all for it too, but don't really think it's worth discussing anymore for a while personally (plus Ed isn't going to be making Milaana bodies anymore btw as he said, maybe like Cherry and Walnut will be possible some day ala E-Nano and mflb)

 

[nosmoking]

I do love the natural look and all...I'm just saying I would pay more for the exotic and I am interested but if I need to restrain this emotion as well I will!

In the meantime, here is some Mi porn...


Purple Urkle looking at you!

 

[Copacetic]

I was wondering when this question would be asked, I am sorry to let you down but I am not working with RBT, I may make stems for it in the future but right now have a ton of work to get caught up on. Thank you.

First I was:

Now I'm just:

 

[Ed's TnT]

@nosmoking & @Shit Snacks I appreciate you guys I really do, its not that I didnt want to be a part of this project, I did, I spent alot of money and wasted alot of time to be disrespected and strung along, maybe I am a little aggravated about it but thats not how you treat people you reach out to for help. Yeah yeah RBT may be busy and have a lot on his plate, hey who doesnt, I sure as heck do and I still find time to treat others as I would want for myself. What goes around comes around, it always does!

 

[pakalolo]

@pakalolo It was all meant with love and respect! I will restrain myself from here on out, however I don't think it is appropriate for a moderator to call a forum member ignorant especially when what you refer to as massive ignorance could really just be a lack of inside information. We have not all had the pleasure of a Skype tour of what RBT is doing.

To clarify, I didn't call you ignorant, I said you spoke from ignorance, which is accurate. Ignorance means that you don't know the facts.

 

[mrbonsai420]

Mine was ordered a few months back. I asked Sheila about it a few days ago and she said it would be shipping soon so I expect to see it some time in May. I told her no rush on mine, get some of those impatient people's out first. I have a month old Mighty and a week old Evo to play with until she arrives Hell I tried to buy that FF2 from the classifieds too but someone here beat me to it.

I'll keep you guys posted when it arrives. I will be using the Nextar VP4 charger with mine.

 

[nosmoking]

@nosmoking & @Shit Snacks I appreciate you guys I really do, its not that I didnt want to be a part of this project, I did, I spent alot of money and wasted alot of time to be disrespected and strung along, maybe I am a little aggravated about it but thats not how you treat people you reach out to for help. Yeah yeah RBT may be busy and have a lot on his plate, hey who doesnt, I sure as heck do and I still find time to treat others as I would want for myself. What goes around comes around, it always does!

Wow...I am sorry to hear this Ed. Your a stand up guy and I agree, you shouldn't have to deal with what you mention above.

@pakalolo Spin it how you want, it's still not cool, your a moderator who should show respect to the forum members as well. Without members you have nothing much to moderate! FCmembers lives matter too! But I didn't really take it that personal so lets please not carry on. I consider you a friend here, hopefully you can consider me the same.

 

[Mulehead]

I was wondering when this question would be asked, I am sorry to let you down but I am not working with RBT, I may make stems for it in the future but right now have a ton of work to get caught up on. Thank you.

I'm sorry to hear this Ed!
I was really hoping to see that TnT craftsmanship in future Milaanas!
I guess I'll get my fix through stems and accessories then.
Bummer it didn't work out, but I totally understand your stance brother.

I'd imagine we are like a year away at least, the Maple must sell very well for that to happen probably

So you think RBT should wait a year before taking more money from me, and all of my sick & twisted brothers with WAS?
I bet if you check with the other wood vape manufacturers that give options, maple is probably the least sold.
It just makes more sense in my head that if a fella wants to sell more units, this would be a way of doing it.

 

[pakalolo]

@pakalolo Spin it how you want, it's still not cool, your a moderator who should show respect to the forum members as well. Without members you have nothing much to moderate! FCmembers lives matter too!

I did show you respect. My word choice was deliberate and carefully made to avoid calling you ignorant.

 

[Andreaerdna]

What goes around comes around, it always does!

sorry to hear about your waste of time and money even if not really surprised. I was waiting for the first rbt handmade round to go out and your contribution/bodies to go in, in order to finally jump in and make my order, and not only because of your skills (even if it was primarily because of them :-)

I guess rbt is not ready to kick the glue off the assembly...Luckily I have a bamboo HI on my next future.

 

[Shit Snacks]

I'm sorry to hear this Ed!
I was really hoping to see that TnT craftsmanship in future Milaanas!
I guess I'll get my fix through stems and accessories then.
Bummer it didn't work out, but I totally understand your stance brother.



So you think RBT should wait a year before taking more money from me, and all of my sick & twisted brothers with WAS?
I bet if you check with the other wood vape manufacturers that give options, maple is probably the least sold.
It just makes more sense in my head that if a fella wants to sell more units, this would be a way of doing it.

I will be purchasing a few more maple units before 5/13
for a back up and what not.
I feel like I'm alone in this, but I'd rather get my customer support from RBT then his third party retailer, as I've only had positive experiences with him in the past.

I can't say for sure, but I'm sure it is more cost and time intensive to line up different wood suppliers and such, if there was more sale at the basic level maybe, but to do as you say it'd be back to hobby made to order mode and not feasible for what he's trying to do: get stock if Milaana rolling out to fund all the rest. Maybe I was being conservative with a year, but seriously many more sales need to be made for this to happen imo

Yeah it sucks @Ed's TnT, but can't say I'm too surpised either I suppose, was a little afraid of something like that (since i know both you and RBT) so always thought you making bodies sounded too good to be true. When you get time again though we will have to revisit the stems at least! I feel honored to have the privilege of testing for you and hope to continue to work on other ideas with you (my Grasshoppers are coming soon, have been thinking of what you could do with that too...)

Also to be clear, the glue wouldn't have went away with Ed's work @Andreaerdna, he would've been making bodies to then have guts inserted, glue and all.

 

[Ed's TnT]

I can't say for sure, but I'm sure it is more cost and time intensive to line up different wood suppliers and such, if there was more sale at the basic level maybe, but to do as you say it'd be back to hobby made to order mode and not feasible for what he's trying to do: get stock if Milaana rolling out to fund all the rest. Maybe I was being conservative with a year, but seriously many more sales need to be made for this to happen imo

Yeah it sucks @Ed's TnT, but can't say I'm too surpised either I suppose, was a little afraid of something like that (since i know both you and RBT) so always thought you making bodies sounded too good to be true. When you get time again though we will have to revisit the stems at least! I feel honored to have the privilege of testing for you and hope to continue to work on other ideas with you (my Grasshoppers are coming soon, have been thinking of what you could do with that too...)

Also to be clear, the glue wouldn't have went away with Ed's work @Andreaerdna, he would've been making bodies to then have guts inserted, glue and all.

My man its always been a pleasure to work with you, never had anything but good come from your cooperation! I dont know anything about the Grasshopper but will sure give it a look if you would like and a go as well! I am a big boy, I can take a dis here and there and keep on trucking, if yall only knew the half of it, hope you all here at FC dont get dissed!

 

[Andreaerdna]

Also to be clear, the glue wouldn't have went away with Ed's work @Andreaerdna, he would've been making bodies to then have guts inserted, glue and all.

Maybe it is childish but I was hopeing that from collaboration will came not only well cut/finished bodies but also ideas to how to improve some aspects. i think no one even in Z-team can praise for glue, you can not to care about it but who really likes it?

 

[mephisto]

Since we have Ed on the line, just wanted to say that the Cocobolo stem he made me for the Zion fits the Mi perfectly. Thanks for the chance to try something new @Ed's TnT ! Hope to see more stems from you in the future.
Thanks to RBT for the Mi, got it yesterday. It was worth the wait. This vape is the dream of the ESV. On demand, convection. No special tech needed for use. Just press and go. New users please don't overthink this device. Unless it is faulty, there will be vapor a plenty. Press the button and begin to draw, when you begin to feel the heat at the back of your throat, start letting off the button. Repeat.....I can't see putting so much weed in this that I need to stir. That's the reason I bought the Mi, NOT to stir. If you like stirring, buy an ESV.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Maybe it is childish but I was hopeing that from collaboration will came not only well cut/finished bodies but also ideas to how to improve some aspects. i think no one even in Z-team can praise for glue, you can not to care about it but who really likes it?

I wouldn't say childish, maybe just starry eyed? lol yeah the design is done, it will be a while before anything changes. Doubt any like glue but I certainly don't mind it here in the least, like ESV mentioned above, and explained here earlier the epoxy used is 100% safe in its application in Milaana and Zion, away from the vapor path, totally heatsafe and neutral to taste. If it is still a concern for you then this vape cannot be for you, despite its exceptional performance, imo there is no cause for concern

 

[srama21]

Came home yesterday to an unexpected milana! Wasn't able to try it out, but I should get to it today.
Damn, so Ed is not on board anymore? I AM SHOCKED.