Discontinued The RBT Milaana (unregulated single 18650)

[vapen00b]

I am doing it with zero feathering somehow, like natural temp stepping. It's how long you hold the button too, how you draw and pack, in love low temp vaping so trust me it's intuitive. I am not missing my tasty terps one bit here...

Hi shits,
how would you think about this:

I prefer a joint-like session, slow and laid back. If the Milaana sorta forces you to take it fast, without being able to get some nice hefty low-temp hits, it might be a bit of a disappointment.

Would you need to "take it fast? I don't think so, if it's not tuned up too much, right? I too would like to surf the lower end, but I'm sure we CAN surf Milaana's lower end! And I'm damn sure she's gonna like it!

Thanks bro!

 

[Shit Snacks]

Hi shits,
how would you think about this:

Would you need to "take it fast? I don't think so, if it's not tuned up too much, right? I too would like to surf the lower end, but I'm sure we CAN surf Milaana's lower end! And I'm damn sure she's gonna like it!

Thanks bro!

Yeah I am surfing, if anything it's not fast enough as I said. It is probably my ideal temp but I think just a hair hotter/faster would be a better middle ground for all users. You can get several tasty hits before the herb even gets dark with minimal effort, can keep avb golden if desired. Fresh batteries fresh load is the best tasty vapor and it is easy to maintain it as MrP said. In Milaana you are the regulator, and it seems fairly intuitive to do so, even more than other manual vapes I've used/owned probably.

 

[OyVape]

Wonder if someone out there in aftermarket land could make a telescoping stem for this critter? I'm thinking that way you could just slide it out when you want to use it.

And/or maybe a glass-lined wood stem? Or call it a wood-wrapped glass stem, whatever. Sort of a la the VapCap?

 

[srama21]

i am being juvenile, but i laughed at this for a good 5 minutes:

Hi shits,

 

[mrbonsai420]

YES!!!! My sister just texted me her Paypal conformation for my birthday present. I am the proud new owner of a Milaana! I can't wait. I live on the edge of combustion and I think this thing will let me teeter right on the edge!! So Count me in on Team Milaana

 

[AJS]

I think the Mi is more in line with being compared to portables, unlike the Zion (desktop).
As someone who actually thoroughly enjoys their AAir (solo), I find the convenience of it hard for the Mi to beat. Pre-loading 2 stems, which come apart but still have a belt clip to keep compact, is one of the easiest methods of on-the-go vaping available on the market.

Without the clip, and the ability to pre-load and cap stems, the Air would simply be a smaller solo, but with all the fuss of having to deal with shit on the go.

This is how I'm seeing the Milaana. I'm seeing it as something more fuss-worthy when on-the-go, despite being a smaller unit. I picture myself on a trail for a walk. Now, with a stem pre-loaded, the day-dream is going well. Unfortunately, in this day-dream, I have finished my stem. Now I must find a bench or a spot to sit down, find a place isolated enough to be able to take out my jyarz, empty it into the cap, pull the stem out, cash, reload, screw on jyarz, put away, find stir stick in pocket, pack down/stir...ready to go.
With the Zion, I imagine it more like ... put the stem in the holder, unscrew the stash cap, suck from the cap, pack with tool already provided, good to go. All can be done most likely while walking, as pre-loading the stash spot + having the stir tool + being able to store the stem as you open the stash spot is just all such a huge plus.

It seems the Zion is more equipped for "on the go", despite not being pocketable. It is quite the ironic predicament for me.

Maybe a belt clip to hold the Mi + a capped stem would make me feel less overwhelmed with what I'm carrying. My very first idea was a rubberband around the Mi, slide the stem into the rubber band, easy. Idea two would be to have a rubber band, but that rubber band has Velcro slots that the stems can slide into, that way they slide out easier than dealing with a rubber band. Fuck it, put a clip on that rubber band too and you have a built in belt clip + stem holder. Boom. Win. Peace.

 

[VegNVape]

. . . Or you could put The Milaaana body in your pocket, blow out the abv from the stem, whip out your JyARz containing preground material & suck it on up. Replace lid on vessel & insert stem in device. All while you ramble. No tamping really required. Loose load is fine.

Or, rip off a nug & stuff it in the stem.

You're over thinking it imo. I think you'll be just fine once you get it in your hand.

 

[AJS]

It's not a legitimate concern of mine, but fumbling for parts is something many people dislike so I figured it was worthy of a post.
Didn't even consider dropping the Mi in my pocket and just focusing on the stem, good point. I imagined doing it all holding everything. I think having pre-packed stems will be almost a requirement for me sometimes, an 18mm cap will be easy to find, and having one in the chamber (of Mi), and one in the pocket will make life very easy.

I'll figure it out. Will hopefully be ordering one soon assuming I can stop guilt tripping myself.

 

[MrPeanut]

Killer the Milaana went ice fishing today. Beautiful day in the Adirondacks.

 

[AJS]

@MrPenut
Oh...
Oh wow
That's small.
ohhhhhhhh

 

[VegNVape]

It's not a legitimate concern of mine, but fumbling for parts is something many people dislike so I figured it was worthy of a post.
Didn't even consider dropping the Mi in my pocket and just focusing on the stem, good point. I imagined doing it all holding everything. I think having pre-packed stems will be almost a requirement for me sometimes, an 18mm cap will be easy to find, and having one in the chamber (of Mi), and one in the pocket will make life very easy.

I'll figure it out. Will hopefully be ordering one soon assuming I can stop guilt tripping myself.

Yeah, I guess I just see it like every other vape that I own, other than the Zion, that does not have onboard storage.

I have always coped, & I love getting use out of my JyARz. Sticking a stem in & sucking it up is a breeze.

I don't think many people will have difficulties in finding solutions that work well for them.

Wicked snapshot @MrPeanut


MuchLove.

 

[AJS]

Yeah, I guess I just see it like every other vape that I own, other than the Zion, that does not have onboard storage.

I have always coped, & I love getting use out of my JyARz. Sticking a stem in & sucking it up is a breeze.

I don't think many people will have difficulties in finding solutions that work well for them.

Wicked snapshot @MrPeanut


MuchLove.

Okay cool VnV. I've tried loading my Air stems on the go, and a quick suck-up from my Jyarz overfills my load a bunch, and it's really hard to tap out herb from the Air stems, so I always found it to be inconvenient. The large opening of the Mi stems should make it a much simpler process to quick-suck-load. I shouldn't have attributed the negativity of a situation of one vape to the same situation of another vape. I'm glad fast-loading comes out easy and hassle free.

 

[Shit Snacks]

It's not a legitimate concern of mine, but fumbling for parts is something many people dislike so I figured it was worthy of a post.
Didn't even consider dropping the Mi in my pocket and just focusing on the stem, good point. I imagined doing it all holding everything. I think having pre-packed stems will be almost a requirement for me sometimes, an 18mm cap will be easy to find, and having one in the chamber (of Mi), and one in the pocket will make life very easy.

I'll figure it out. Will hopefully be ordering one soon assuming I can stop guilt tripping myself.

Well, yeah you can find a case, there are plenty of creative options readily available (and eventually more will be made I am sure). It just barely fits in the empty Elevape clamshell zipper case. It could fit in a small harddrive case with a stem and/or battery, an ecig case may be able to hold a couple stems and more batteries maybe. You could put it with a case for batteries in a pouch and get a cigar tube for stems, caps are easy to find, luckily I found a red cap from the Evo that is perfect for a secure 18mm joint load. There are also other ways to make caps to have pre loaded stems... But yeah as Veg said its pretty quick, I had Air and Solo too, and this is definitely quicker, less involved and the glass is wider, no tamping ever, when you take you first hit the load is very well seated, and you may not find it necessary to stir at all in a bowl (if you do it likely will only be once or twice depending on the many variables). You'll get two stems in a kit i think, but yeah out and about just one stem with stash jars should be fine in my experience. Finally, a Milaana hit is so much stronger than the Air at any temp, so less hits needed at a time meaning one loaded stem could last you a long time anyway, then a quick reload

 

[AJS]

@Shit Snacks Thank you for the response and the comparison.

. Finally, a Milaana hit is so much stronger than the Air at any temp

Yes, I realized I failed to mention the potency is absolutely going to be different. This is my reason for upgrading, but being a portable, convenience is huge for me...but I think I've talked it out enough and had enough responses that I'll be able to work around what I loved about the Air.

 

[Shit Snacks]

@Shit Snacks Thank you for the response and the comparison.


Yes, I realized I failed to mention the potency is absolutely going to be different. This is my reason for upgrading, but being a portable, convenience is huge for me...but I think I've talked it out enough and had enough responses that I'll be able to work around what I loved about the Air.

Yeah to me, Zion and Milaana slaughter Air and Solo in almost every category, certainly don't miss mine anymore. Stem vaping always has some compromises for portability, but those who enjoy it tend to value the benefits more

 

[AJS]

While I imagine the flavors of the Mi/Zi are flawless...
the lack of airflow + the conduction/convec + tiny air path + the minute 30 preheat of getting all those terps boiled in the Arizer Air makes for one of the most flavorful first hits of any vape I've ever tried.
I imagine every single subsequent hit will be more flavorful through the Mi...but that first rip of the Air has my mouth wet every time. That seems like the only functional benefit the Air may have over the Mi, but like I said, I think that's only appropriate on the first hit.
If the Mi can outflavor that first hit (for me), I would be incredibly impressed, as both the Nano and the LSV cannot.

Once I convince my conscience that I'm allowed to get this vape, I'll order. Probably within a few days.

Edit: I am in no way attempting to belittle this vape. I am aware of the tech and am extremely amazed at what it's capable of. I just compare by nature, and I think it gives more information for others to make an informed decision. It's hard to describe orange until you've seen red and yellow.

 

[Shit Snacks]

While I imagine the flavors of the Mi/Zi are flawless...
the lack of airflow + the conduction/convec + tiny air path + the minute 30 preheat of getting all those terps boiled in the Arizer Air makes for one of the most flavorful first hits of any vape I've ever tried.
I imagine every single subsequent hit will be more flavorful through the Mi...but that first rip of the Air has my mouth wet every time. That seems like the only functional benefit the Air may have over the Mi, but like I said, I think that's only appropriate on the first hit.
If the Mi can outflavor that first hit (for me), I would be incredibly impressed, as both the Nano and the LSV cannot.

Once I convince my conscience that I'm allowed to get this vape, I'll order. Probably within a few days.

Edit: I am in no way attempting to belittle this vape. I am aware of the tech and am extremely amazed at what it's capable of. I just compare by nature, and I think it gives more information for others to make an informed decision. It's hard to describe orange until you've seen red and yellow.

Yeah, no judgement, just laying out my experience since I may be the only one who has owned both? Went through 3 Solos and an Air

In my opinion, it does, maybe better than Firefly and Elevape even and those are two pure on demand convection flavor pinacles... With Air and Solo, the first hit tastes are great, but still it's concentrated cooked terps all at once so ofcourse it is, then they're gone and much were probably wasted during that long heat up without inhaling. With on demand convection, particularly in Mi/Zi as it works so well, this is only happening during your hit, much better efficiency and overall much better taste almost every time. You still get the most tasty first hit syndrome, but it lasts much longer through the load as you go further with each hit (you can use flavor to determine when to stop) and in my experience it is actually even more mouthwateringly pure in these type of vapes

 

[AJS]

Of course, as expected. Thanks again for the direct comparisons. Very helpful.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Of course, as expected. Thanks again for the direct comparisons. Very helpful.

A pleasure. And just thought of where the Air does have the edge, smaller stem so more portable and more secure when inserted since only one end is glass (though again glass bowl could be seen by many as a pro here, and the wider glass has airflow advantages and those mentioned above). However once I test Ed's incoming short 18-18 WonG as a mouthpiece this could solve both issues (I don't have a shorty glass stem like MrP yet)

 

[AJS]

Would be funny to have your "stem" be an Ecig tank, inconspicuous much?
I look forward to wood-wood all the way through. Too organic to be a weed smoking device

 

[Vapzilla]

Is the led light on these beta units?
The Web store description says you reverse the battery polarity to control it to on/off.
I was hoping reversing the battery would disable the unit to make it more pocket friendly.
I don't believe there's an on/off switch.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Is the led light on these beta units?
The Web store description says you reverse the battery polarity to control it to on/off.
I was hoping reversing the battery would disable the unit to make it more pocket friendly.
I don't believe there's an on/off switch.

Website need to be updated, there is no longer an LED at all. Battery does work in either direction though I believe. Button doesn't depress too easily, but it is recommend to store without battery inside as the off switch. It should come with a battery case i think.

 

[Vape Dr.]

@Shit Snacks Do you have any EVO ELBs still, or possibly anyone else?

I use ELBs in my EVO (obviously), SSV, DBV, LSV, ViVape2, an EV-2 (with an 18mm male to male adapter with the ELB in the hole). This makes things super clean as well. I love ELBs.

Having said that, do you think a cheap 18mm male/male with a filled ELB (cap on) stuck in the adapter mated to a water pipe would work?

Or would an ELB fit in the stock stem in the Milaana or Zion?

If anyone can see if an ELB fits in the stock Z/M stem that would be great!

Also if anyone has an 18mm male to male could you see if that mates as a stem for either unit.

Thanks guys, I'm getting a little too excited over here!

I know exactly what I mean and now I'm confused...

 

[HellsWindStaff]

@Shit Snacks Do you have any EVO ELBs still, or possibly anyone else?

I use ELBs in my EVO (obviously), SSV, DBV, LSV, ViVape2, an EV-2 (with an 18mm male to male adapter with the ELB in the hole). This makes things super clean as well. I love ELBs.

Having said that, do you think a cheap 18mm male/male with a filled ELB (cap on) stuck in the adapter mated to a water pipe would work?

Or would an ELB fit in the stock stem in the Milaana or Zion?

If anyone can see if an ELB fits in the stock Z/M stem that would be great!

Also if anyone has an 18mm male to male could you see if that mates as a stem for either unit.

Thanks guys, I'm getting a little too excited over here!

I know exactly what I mean and now I'm confused...

Don't quote me, but I do think that an ELB should natively fit into the stems.....pretty sure the screens are on the GG end of the stem for the Zionss, so if you just popped that out, you should be able to just throw an ELB in? Less the ELB would be destroyed by being close to the heater?

I tend to see the Zion on water pipes and it's connected to it via 18male ends, and people are using the ELBs in the joint of their water pipes to success, so it probably would work!

 

[Vape Dr.]

This sounds good indeed!

The reason I asked was because @Shit Snacks was kind enough to show us an unobtainable adapter that was freakin sweet and nice and short.

Has the stem size been determined yet or is that still up in the air?
I would like the shortest stem possible.

Perhaps even one with a slight curve to smooth the draw a bit like the Solo but not as severe.