The Pinnacle by Vaporblunt

[Belgianvapor]

True, perhaps it is not the convection action itself but the design of the convection element and how much hot air it puts out at once.

Which vaporizer do you experience larger clouds from, the Cera or the PN?

hm, difficult to say, I can get really big clouds with the cera, after I started using the pre heat method
but I have to work for it, inhale a long time wich I don't have to do with the pinnacle, this is a true lazy man's vape (and I mean that in the best way possible) I guess if I inhale as long as what it takes with the cera, I get bigger clouds with the pinnacle

 

[t-dub]

hm, difficult to say, I can get really big clouds with the cera, after I started using the pre heat method but I have to work for it, inhale a long time wich I don't have to do with the pinnacle, this is a true lazy man's vape (and I mean that in the best way possible) I guess if I inhale as long as what it takes with the cera, I get bigger clouds with the pinnacle

Hmmm . . . yummy 1st hand comparison, thanks

 

[nopartofme]

I have yet to cough for the first time with my cera wich is pure convection so could it be
something else or is it more the fact that with the cera I have to regulate the temp myself by
inhaling slower or faster where as the pinnacle feels like I can suck it either way and get the same results?

Unless you're using a different mouthpiece, the lack of coughing with the Cera is most likely due to the 'UFO' system in the ceramic mouthpiece. It's one of the best parts of the Cera design imo.

Some kind of adapter to attach the Cera MP to the Pinnacle would be real funny looking but "super effective" I bet.

 

[Dreamerr]

Belgian, extend your air path like I do with the long glass straw. It makes a huge difference. Also if you have the Old INH then 3 would be = to about 375 and the PN on low is about 370-375. On the same note I cough more with the INH so I guess it depends on the person. I think because of the different draws depending on which vape you are using you will cough more or less. I think we fall into a comfortable draw regardless if we cough or not. I however, slow my draw and take shorter hits since coughing is dangerous for me.

 

[mmenzie]

not sure if any of you follow the vape reviewer "The Vape Critic" but he recently did a review of the pinnacle and it was not too favorable at all. I know Opinions are like a$$holes and everyone has one but in case you want another review, here it is.....

 

[nort]

not sure if any of you follow the vape reviewer "The Vape Critic" but he recently did a review of the pinnacle and it was not too favorable at all. I know Opinions are like a$$holes and everyone has one but in case you want another review, here it is.....

Ouch. He's got a few good points there for sure. The mouthpiece is def an issue for me now. Coming off quite a bit in my pocket. Makes a mess and actually fell to the floor the other night in a packed room which was a pain in the ass to find for a second. However, him saying that this vape isn't as good as the MFLB is laughable. It's much better IMO in so many ways. The mouthpiece design is def questionable though as is the power button which also is coming on without me knowing until I feel the heat in my pocket. I'm somewhat tempted to buy a PAX at this point because it's what I originally wanted and then changed my mind going with this as my first portable.

disclaimer: I'm not wearing skinny jeans either.

 

[Shmoo]

Mouthpiece is loose, that's a legitimate problem. But what was his complaint about the chamber? He described it but didn't say why the design wasn't good, except for the fact that the bullet is hot right after using it. I don't see how having to wait 30 seconds for it to cool down is an issue. I also found it weird that he was on the low setting when he did his vapor action shot. And yeah there's no way in hell the mflb is better than the Pinnacle...just a weird review in my opinion. And I'm not just saying this because I own and like my Pinnacle.

 

[Crohnie]

I usually agree with The Vape Critic and really like his reviews, but I have to disagree with him mostly on this one. First, the stuff I agree with. Although my mouthpiece has never had an issue being loose, I understand that others experience this problem. True, the Pinnacle doesn't hit as hard as some portable vapes, but it has a learning curve. It just seems like he didn't spend much time to learn how to hit it or try it with the WT. I also agree that the price point is a bit too high considering the materials used. I think $175, rather than $229, would be a more appropriate price point.

The things I disagree with: The complaint about the chamber being long and skinny. For me, that is a HUGE plus. Vapes with long, skinny chambers, IMO, tend to be MUCH more efficient; Think log vapes, the Cloud, etc. Once again, if he had really given the Pinnacle a workout, he would have noticed how efficient it is. All in all, not a good quality review. You can do better, Vape Critic.

 

[Dreamerr]

The review was correct because we have mentioned all that but he never mentioned any of the positives. He also said wispy vapor but that vape shot looked good to me. I know I can easily make vapor now that I have been using the PN for so long.

To each there own...I wouldn't own an NO2 and he likes that so be it.

 

[Crohnie]

The review was correct because we have mentioned all that but he never mentioned any of the positives. He also said wispy vapor but that vape shot looked good to me. I know I can easily make vapor now that I have been using the PN for so long.

To each there own...I wouldn't own an NO2 and he likes that so be it.

Indeed, Dreamer. The Vape Critic never mentioned any of the positives which is why I believe he didn't take the proper time to evaluate the Pinnacle. I've said it before and I'll say it again: The Pinnacle has a LEARNING CURVE. It's not a big learning curve, but it does take some time to figure out the ideal techniques (with and without the water tool) to produce good clouds. He never even tried the WT.

The Vape Critic is hardly alone in his opinion that broader, shorter bowls are better than long skinny ones. The theory is that because of the surface area exposed, supposed evenness of vapage, etc. that broad, short bowls are better. IMO, in actual practice, the opposite is true. If I were to put in a bullet's worth of herb into a Volcano bowl, I would get nowhere NEAR the number and size of hits that I get from the PInnacle. Fortunately, it seems like more and more vaporists and manufacturers have realized that in the last few years. Just my

EDIT: I feel I must point out that this review is VERY uncharacteristic of the Vape Critic. He usually does a fine job, IMO. Don't know what happened here.

 

[Dreamerr]

I whole heatedly agree and if you don't give the PN a chance you won't learn the beauty of it. Every vape has its flaws and this one is no exception but right now it is a great vape for ME. His negatives don't even bother me others negs do that he didn't mention. It just goes to show you even with reviews you have to know what you like so you can pick the right reviewer to trust. I do like that he did what he thought was a fair review even though it wasn't complete. That means he isn't bought off by a company or a manufacturer.

 

[rufus]

puff on the PonG like it's a true vapor BLUNT, same technique as a cigar only inhaling. it's small enough you can even hold it like a stogy between your index and middle finger if you brace with your thumb. it's better than the reg mouthpiece, doesn't heat up the roof of your mouth. if i use the reg mp i find myself doing a snake flick tongue dance or changing angles to cool the vapor.

the review is right though, the top piece really needs to be redone for this to live up to the name pinnacle. if it were glass and stayed on properly i speculate Vape Critic would have given the device much more of a chance.

i agree with Crohnie about the bullet shape working very well to evenly roast, and i get quality vapor from mine, as Dreamerr said his video showed good cloud production.

i guess i'm just speaking up as a happy owner to let others know the review is right about the top piece, but IMO wrong about the design and functionality.

i'm considering buying a 14/18mm adpt so i can use this little dude on my ion instead of my Q, so it's funny to hear it get a bad review, dismissed probably because he couldn't get over the top.

 

[astarnes]

since i was ignored the other day is there any news on the Pro version? i would love to own this for the summer since it is so portable and can be used while charging

 

[Crohnie]

since i was ignored the other day is there any news on the Pro version? i would love to own this for the summer since it is so portable and can be used while charging

We haven't heard anything new about the Pro for a while.

 

[TheHerbalReview]

Now, I will be the first to admit... I've only been reviewing products for the last 3-4 months, and have learned SO much on these forums. All of your input and advice about these products are VERY helpful in creating my reviews. Although I most certainly give my own honest opinion, the threads don't lie. Each vape has its pro's and cons and they are usually blasted on the designated thread.

Second off, I respect Bud or "The Vape Critic" as a reviewer, as he was the first actual reviewer that I turned to when I was looking to buy a vape for the first time. I know he has experience with vaporizers and has his preferences... but this is the second time I've COMPLETELY disagreed with his review. He is obviously very lenient towards the MFLB; which I understand... it's a fantastic unit for a very great price. He gave the Palm vaporizer a 30/100 on his website, and rated the Puffit higher! I know this isn't the Puffit thread, but the puffit is an AWFUL vape. Awful. I honestly still enjoy the Palm 2.0.

Now, that all being said... I know this isn't a MFLB, Palm, or Puffit thread... but I really get the impression there's a reason he dislikes ALL of the VaporBlunt products... and this really frustrates me for some strange reason lol. The Pinnacle isn't perfect by any means... but it's a HUGE step in the right direction for portables... and doesn't deserve this shitty of a review. The frustrating part is... he's the most reputable reviewer on YouTube... and will more than likely get more traffic than any other Pinnacle review video, as well as these threads on the device itself.

- The heating chamber is long, and pointless in design.

He highly reviewed the Vapir N02 with almost identical sized trench and is a major pain in the ass to continuously clean, yet a removable trench is a bad design?

Idk. I might be a little biased because I do enjoy chatting with TheRealVaporBlunt on here... but that aside... completely disrespectful that you'd start off your review saying "this is my pinnacle review, i don't like it, thanks for watching." Too each their own tho...

 

[Slightly Medicated]

I thought the start of the review was a bit rude. Although I agree with him on a personal level.. I think I would word it differently. For me personally the Pinnacle has no redeeming value. I can't use it because the active compound composition of the vapor is not medically what/where I need it to be. I agree that the cap is also flimsy and that is a downside/issue.

He never once mentioned the glass water filtration option that the Pinnacle comes with. I find the glass tube great... and I use it with other portables regularly. It is a really cool glass accessory and I am getting allot of use out of it.

I think this portable has an audience... I am just not one of them. If you like lower temp vapor this is a pretty good option. If you like high temp vapor and very dark ABV this device is probably not for you. I personally think it is better suited around the $160 price range with the dry mouthpiece.

 

[TheHerbalReview]

I thought the start of the review was a bit rude. Although I agree with him on a personal level.. I think I would word it differently. For me personally the Pinnacle has no redeeming value. I can't use it because the active compound composition of the vapor is not medically what/where I need it to be. I agree that the cap is also flimsy and that is a downside. He never once mentioned the glass water filtration option that the Pinnacle comes with. I find the glass tube great... and I use it with other portables regularly. I think this portable has an audience... I am just not one of them. If you like lower temp vapor this is a pretty good option. If you like high temp vapor and very dark ABV this device is probably not for you. I personally think it is better suite around the $160 price range with the dry mouth piece.

I agree with you Slim, when I review the Puffit here in a short while... I'm still going to try to remain polite, while justifying the reasons I don't particularly recommend the vape. No mention of the water-tool, heat settings, and a very shortened vape session. Idk, I really enjoy Bud's reviews... was just a little disappointed with this one.

As far as the higher temps go, I'm really hoping the Pro satisfies and fixes the questionable mouthpiece.

 

[Dopevape]

As far as a review goes this prolly isn't too much much of one but here goes.
Everyone has seen the pros and contras of the Pinnacle and im right up there with you guys so i don't think there is much need to go over that again.
First off i Didn't like the vape cause of the lower temps. But now my thoughts about this vape have changed. Even these lower temps make me caugh sometimes... When it comes to effectiveness this vape really does the trick. It is enjoyable like plug and play sort of style. warm up time is bit of a drag but u can work with it. First off u can start your load at the lower temp so u can really get some flavor out of it, mostly i let it heat up 40 secs longer as Herbalreview pointed out for some bigger hits. In time u get the hang off it and are able to get pretty thick hits even on the lower settings.
Again first off u can start at the lower temp do it for 10 mins depends on how the clouds come out, at least with me, then kick it up to higher setting for the rest of it ! Usually a session takes 20 mins at least for me cause i wanna get everything out of it.(1 bullet)
Fun part of this vape indeed is it is lazy-mode . U can just sit back back and enjoy your blend while pondering doing nothing watching nature or whatever or watch a show on tv all the while puffing on your pinnacle.
As for the WaterTool its awesome! I'm using it with it other vapes which also gives great succes this is a nice tool!
For me this is first time again im using a temperature controlled vape and it makes me enjoy vaping much more. At first i was like hmm high temp vaping is for me cause im used to combustion but also the lower temps seem to bring much joy maybe even more :s which is weird . But hey im learning.

 

[TherealVaporblunt]

IMO the review was awful. I haven't seen any other reviews from him including the palm that he supposedly gave 30/100 to. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I think the majority of pinnacle owners would call shenanigans on this review.

As for the pro.............................. Keep waiting

 

[vorrange]

To me, VapeCritic is just endorsing S&B products while doing some reviews on others vaporizers to look unsuspicious.

He gave the Volcano 95/100, the Plenty 90, the Cloud 90, the Vivape 75, the Solo 85, the PAX 88, the SSV 88, the MFLB 85, the HA 83.. i mean, it just doesn't make much sense.
He either doesn't know how to review stuff and gives the same weight to variables in different degrees of importance or always eskew his reviews to praise S&B products.

Since i dislike S&B products this is very apparent to me, to someone who has a Volcano maybe not as much.

And i don't own a Pinnacle, but i think SliM said it all. You just have to be honest with what you're looking for.

 

[KC]

Very interesting. I wrote to the VapeCritic to ask him to review the Pinnacle, and I'm pretty taken aback by his negative tone.

I bought a Plenty (my first vape) on his advice, and while it's totally decent, I am far less impressed by it than the Pinnacle - particularly in terms of taste and efficiency with herb. I also think it's interesting that he was so down on the quality of the vapor - as compared to what I've tried, I think the Plenty is far harsher. The Pinnacle is pretty close to the Pax, IMO. And no mention of the WT? This is probably one of its coolest features! I'm just glad I found the Pinnacle before this review came out.

Now granted, I'm not medicating every day and my tolerance is probably quite a bit lower than most.

That said, I am really pleased with the quick warmup time, the clouds I'm getting, the ease of maintenance, and the discretion it affords. I was able to step outside, medicate for 10 minutes discreetly and come right back in the house with it in my pocket, no smell at all. After using it for 3 weeks or so, and just doing due diligence to clean the bullet and mouthpiece after each session, the only thing I see is a little buildup on and around the mouthpiece screen. Not enough to cause any interference, just tiny spots. On the advice in this forum, I ordered some wipes from GotVapes, but it's also nice to know that if I need to replace the mouthpiece/PonG connector, it's easily available and not that expensive, IMO.

From my relatively novice perspective, the Pinnacle may not be perfect, but it's way ahead of the pack. When I share it with friends who normally smoke, they are blown away - and all eager to get one.

What would make it better? All the stuff that's been said before.
- better fitting mouthpiece
- power switch that's better configured so as not to turn on inadvertently
- longer battery life
- more temperature settings

I imagine Engineering is hard at work on most if not all of these.

 

[vorrange]

Another interesting thing is how he rates the other bag vapes compared to the Volcano.

Volcano 95
Vivape 75
EQ 85
HA 83

I'd like to know how he rates the Herbalizer.

I have a question to the Pinnacle nay-sayers... how undone is the material compared to other vapes?

 

[Tweek]

not sure if any of you follow the vape reviewer "The Vape Critic" but he recently did a review of the pinnacle and it was not too favorable at all. I know Opinions are like a$$holes and everyone has one but in case you want another review, here it is.....

I don't think he ever rates anything higher than the Volcano. Heck, I bet he even recommends the Volcano when he isn't even being asked:

"Hey Man, how's it going?"
"I'm good, but not as good...as the Volcano"

 

[Crohnie]

I've noticed that too, Tweek. I own a Volcano and honestly, I like the Pinnacle better. IMO, the "long skinny" bullet design the Vape Critic disses is part of what makes it so efficient. The Volcano is a fine vape, but its short broad bowl design ate up my herb like a little piggy!

EDIT: Just ordered a PONG mouthpiece on Ebay. Can't wait to see how it compares to the regular mouthpiece.

 

[Slightly Medicated]

To me, VapeCritic is just endorsing S&B products while doing some reviews on others vaporizers to look unsuspicious.

I had the same feeling about his S&B product endorsements.

I was able to step outside, medicate for 10 minutes discreetly and come right back in the house with it in my pocket, no smell at all.

As a word of caution... it probably did smell. After you medicate you usually suffer from Olfactory Fatigue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olfactory_fatigue

So you might not have been able to smell it, but someone who was not around you when you were medicating probably could smell it on you. The smell wears off quicker them smoke, but it is still there.