I figured I would Do an update for ya F.C. pplz.
After reading this thread since the start and buying shortly after review, I used this thing heavily and loved it.
I almost got the wisper years ago and waited until I saw Portables evolve into something I could get exited about. The Pn and the Ascent were on the way and after the ascent released I felt lucky the Pn worked so well for me.
I participated in this thread with nothing but positive things to say for months and unfortunately when I had what I thought would be a minor C.S. issue it ended up being a big deal.
I never came to any agreement with VB over my Melty looking, possibly Iso damaged, Tinted V2 pong.
Trvb did offer to replace it with the same version that failed, So it's not like I wasn't offered any C.S.
However for my personal piece of mind nothing was going to do but the largest possible margin of safety, I required the latest Thick version of the Black PC high temp Pong for the Pn Pro.
If a partial discount was offered because it was an upgrade I could have lived with that, ultimately I felt treated rather rudely.
That is not what I wanted to update you on though, I wanted to give more info on how this thing is doing in the long run for me and why I am Back on my Pn as my primary source of relief.
I had a brand new standard Mp that I had never used based off of info here the Pong produced better.
The experience I had was similar, it was more restricted gummed up easier and to tell the truth looked ugly.
With my tinted Pong the Pn looked inconspicuous like a nose hair trimmer or something, the clear Mp drew more attention if it were just sitting in a drawer or glove box I.m.o.
The tip broke off of it in the first week and right as I was deciding to stop using it and likely sell the thing starting degrading a little and snapped off in the same place as my V2 Pong.
This happened in a very short period of maybe a month.
After kicking myself in the butt for continuing to use this thing I tried to retire it.
After a few days I realized just combusting didn't fully satisfy anymore so I went on the hunt for something better and I gotta say I was not impressed.
I would like to try a Solo but It just looks so bulky and I would likely break the glass stem, besides I don't like the idea of a milkshake like draw either.
The Bholt looks pretty cool But I like the herbal flavor of plant matter and the long great smelling/tasting sessions i get out of the Pn.
I may still get one just for sometimes use, but that wont replace my Pn.
Pax got ruled out because it's supposed to be kind of a hog and the MP sticking issues would not work out well with me.
Sometimes I shut off the Pn early and hit it a few times to cool and it keeps the load nicely, I have heard this is not the case with the PAX..
So If i can't replace it I need to use it for a year or 2 before something significantly better is out, I was considering the pro at the time my Pong broke. The idea of that or me actively showing and recommending the Pn ended after I was treated poorly over a $10 Mp
I contacted YoyoKid and he was very polite and did not hesitate to offer me a small discount on my Solid black thick PC Pn Pro Pong.
All I did was mention Both my Pong and Mp had failed and that I would like to make sure I was getting the latest revision of the PONG (the 5th by now I think) and he offered.
It looks AWESOME it is solid looking and shiny black like the area around your switch giving the Pn a 2 tone look. As time goes on I am still getting bigger hits out of this thing whether it be better technique or it breaking in, I don't care it produces.
I know the V2's are supposed to be Safe but after watching mine fail and the v1Mp fail in short order I feel like a much safer consumer with a much larger margin for error in this plastic that is in my airway.
I use this thing heavily which equates to more than one full charge a day and had considered buying a second one to swap out on the charger before I decided to avoid giving VB more of my $.
I will continue to use this thing heavily for as long as it lasts and I will keep you updated.
maybe it will last for years when hopefully something obviously superior is out.
If not maybe I will get a nice home unit like the cloud and the Solo or Bholt for when i'm out.
Updated Use synopsis:
Pong
High temp solid black thick PC Pong from the PNpro! For my peace of Mind It was worth buying and even though I don't use the WT a lot is I.m.o. the nicest Mp this unit could have.
It fits the same but I never had issues with the fitment as it tightens with residue from use.
It has been used heavily for weeks and had a couple iso soaks with no damage AT ALL.
W.T.
In the long run the W.T. never got used as much as I thought it would and while it does cool the Vapor good on high I just never felt it necessary.
I do think it is a must have just for the cool factor and I found it VERY useful recently while I was sick and had a very sore throat.
Use
I run bullets 1 cycle on low and then one on high when by myself so I am used to it on high without W.t.
A lot of times if I have a friend with me I start on low and switch to high about midway to get more production, I will only run those bullets once.
I used to be really careful packing them and use the wooden tool but now i just grab herb out of the grinder and stuff a pinch in at a time until medium resistance, I do this over the open grinder to catch the fallings.
Bullet Plugs
I am still using the original 3 plugs I cut from the Stoppers Toros and Dreamerr Use as Bullet caps.
they could not work any better I.m.o.
After sacrificing one to a direct flame and being impressed with its heat resistance, I ran a full session on high and as fast as I could popped the Mp off and shoved the stopper into the hot bullet to try and melt it a bit.
There was no damage and I normally don't move that fast so I feel safe capping them in a rush. LOL.
I used to dump them in my hand and while they cool surprisingly fast eventually you will almost not wait at all and get a very hot one.
Bullet Tube
I am still using the bluntpac tube as a bullet holder and it is working out great and has no damage from when I'm in a hurry and dump hot bullets right into it.
I keep 3 stoppered bullets in it and one in the PN, I usually only run one session every few hrs so for the most part they cool in the Pn.
I remove the Mp and put the stopper on in the Pn then dump Bluntpac into a pocket or cup holder and dump the bullet out of the Pn into the bottom of the Blunt tube and throw the fresh ones in with the stoppers facing up and rotated to the top so I know which have been run.
The Bluntpac is a touch wider than the bullets and a bit too long I.m.o. but it has worked out well, I used to use a space so the bullets wouldn't rattle in there but It ended up seeming like a waste of time.
i was exited to see what VB came up with but was a bit disappointed in their design , The Pn runs out of batts. Right about when my 4th bullet is spent so a carrier for 3 would have been more ideal for me.
I also think the slim profile of a pen type shape fits in the pocket better and matches the Pn Better.
Car Charger?
I would still really like to see a car charger but after using a Power inverter to charge a few times, I want one in my car anyway so n.b.d. there.
Things I still want to try
I still want to try the Silicone Mouthpiece Dreamerr uses to try and let the vapor cool a bit more that is peoples number one complaint that I see use it, maybe I can find black ones?
And I may get that Pen case as Well it seems like a nice fit and since I stopped carrying the WT almost immediately when I got this thing the case I posted up early in this thread was Bigger than it needed to be .
The Vapir no2 Screen at the top of the chamber to keep Mp screen clean Seems like a great Idea as well!
And maybe using PBW would be less harmful on the Mp's?