Have you had the chance to use any of the Triihouse vapes? The heating method is very crude, given the idea behind its "heat exchanger" (if you can truly call it one, heat retarder maybe?) is to dumb down the torches heat by sheer distance or making a curve in the airway. At any rate its very akin to pipe smoking, given the near entirely instant vapor with nothing to warm up. Funny your favorite pipes more or less a block of wood, the lily is too! I've always dreamt of a more stylized offering in the triihouse vein. The heating method is unpatented, extremely simple, ridiculously fast and provides intense vapor. I believe you could likely utilize a somewhat similar method and make it your own. The powers already there, fires a hell of a heat source.I can pull it out, load it, spark it, dump it, toss it, all under 20 seconds.
There is something about that convenience.
I've been thinking of a design with an open bowl, just like a pipe. And a bowl cover on a hinge. The bowl cover "disc" would be made of steel (or other metal) to hold a good amount of heat. With tiny holes through the disc in which to inhale the hot air through. It may be possible to make this disc in two parts, like a sandwich, and engrave a spiral airpath through the disc to increase the heat exchange efficiency.
You could have one end of the bimetallic strip be on an adjustable anchor..so you can adjust the amount of bend, and therefor the temperature required, to actuate the lid. Now you'd have a reliable adjustable heating point for consistent sessions.
Like why I went with VapCap to try surface heating with its clicks and never tried a Lotus or VapMan with the larger learning curve (or even better imo, direct torch heat ala Daisy/Lily since feedback is instant). Maybe we can think o a sensory system here for greater ease of use off the bat?
Is it too soon to say it cause I am really feeling the IT HAS TO BE THAT ONE on concept number 3!
If you can tame lily you can use the rest. The feedback is the same, albeit slightly delayed to warm up the heat exchangers.
I think an indication system in this instance is more unnecessary nonsense and more stuff to break. How many of you kept your training wheels on after you gained the ability to ride a 2 wheeler?
That's my point though, there is no feedback for torching, and I am just shitty with a torch like that. I find Daisy and Lily easier than a pipe even because you just need to aim the flame and pull it in with your breath. Without a click or latching, there is no way to sense how long to heat until you draw after its too late. Another thing that I personally have trouble with is heating the plate itself, even on a VapCap there is a lot more room for error in how one holds the flame where, here a flat plate makes it easier maybe and I guess that's like a Lotus, either way I haven't tried it can't say... Though personally I do think I could use some actual bike training wheels again... I almost bought a VapMan when the heating station was a thing for this reason (but that was very pricey and made it a desktop) and then backed out
Good point about the inhalation rate and difficulty in nailing down an exact temperature in a convection unit. But if the lid were to snap closed via the movement of a bimetallic strip, it would at least give you a rough estimate that you've reached a predetermined temperature. Also, I'm not sure what tech makes that click-noise, but you're probably right about it being a bimetallic material of some sort. Either way, I can't find any of his patents (where as the VG patent is easy to find), and I feel like the design would be different enough as to not infringe. But it needs further investigation.
Series batteries gives a much better spread of power and probably a slightly better run time than one.
Thought you may enjoy the battery sleeves Dan.
And some box mod coil porn
You could smog out a whole city with this one
And I saw, but forgot to save, another one. Cannot find it again and it's now doing my head in as to where I saw it. The coil wasn't a coil. It still had cotton in the middle like a dripper set up but reminded me of a shaver foil/screen. Same kind of thin metal cut in a similar way.
MMJ users may shy away from something involving a heating technique. I have a friend who has little use of his fingers and thumbs he would struggle for sure.
I fell into a rabbithole of my own checking out Dan's website after he linked one of his earlier pipes. The prospect is certainly exciting. The okin's neat but his pipes make.... smoking seem cool! I started to get some wild ideas just browsing.. Check out Dead-Eye in the archives.But the more y'all talk about butane vapes - and I've spent all morning researching the different butane vapes instead of working- the more I'm excited to bed one and especially own one that's built as beautifully as the Okin.
I came up with a design for a butane vaporizer that I'd love to share with you. I don't know if this is too similar to the vapman, as I've never handled one... The heat exchanger is more or less a metal cone nested inside another metal cone, nested inside a metal funnel shape, with the bud in the bottom part of the funnel. The first cone has a hole in the bottom , and the middle cone has holes around the edge of the rim. The heat exchanger would fit inside a bulldog style pipe, and where the dashed lines are in my picture, there would be magnets, allowing you to remove the heat exchanger and load a bowl. Here's a basic drawing I did in paint. I'm no artist. The green stars represent the load.
https://i.imgur.com/hjb88Kj.png
This is concept No. 3, and maybe the one I am most excited about!
Me too.Maybe it's just me, but having to use two hands and a lighter takes away the whole Star Wars feel...kind of like we are drifting from the OP.
I know what you mean, his work is reidiculously good. I would gladly combust out of one of those pipes, if only I could afford one ha.If you can taste or perceive heat in your mouth you have feedback, if its through glass its pretty easy to gauge by vapor. You know that magic depth you aim your torch in on the lily? There's a very similar depth to the lotus, VG and other comparable vapes. Its literally 2-3 seconds hesitance and you're in the same boat. As someone who's used all the above vapes (daisy aside), I can say without speculation... Its the same method and feel. The Vapman stations out again if you still have any interest in the unit, I highly reccomend the vapman as a standalone anyways. I'm certain it may be magic.
Id like to see a similar design (and some of your other wild ideas) come to fruition in a Rube Goldberg kind of way, but don't see myself using them personally. If you guys want a regulated vape with temp controls I suggest taking a step back and reconsidering batteries! I consider a butane vape like a hopped up race car, manual transmission, no power steering, stripped down lean and mean. I had a racecar bed as a kid.
These traits don't necessarily mean not user friendly. With the proper air inlets and a suggested manner of use it wouldnt be difficult, in fact with the triihouse tech you are hard pressed to combust unless you start blocking air holes, overfill it, get greedy or just bury the torch up. If you follow the instructions you simply don't combust. With power comes responsibility.
If you haven't been in the DIY section in a while I suggest going. Check out the Bulli and The Project threads in particular.
Maybe disabled mmj users, certainly not the 90%+/- of us who came up using pipes. I'd tell your friend to stick to regulated electric portables honestly.
I fell into a rabbithole of my own checking out Dan's website after he linked one of his earlier pipes. The prospect is certainly exciting. The okin's neat but his pipes make.... smoking seem cool! I started to get some wild ideas just browsing.. Check out Dead-Eye in the archives.
What do you mean the Vapman stations out? So you would no doubt recommend the Vapman to Vapcap or Lotus. Most people say Lotus for flavor and Vapman for stealth. I don't need stealth, I have the mflb for that. But for someone who just wants to try a butane vape..?The Vapman stations out again if you still have any interest in the unit, I highly reccomend the vapman as a standalone anyways. I'm certain it may be magic.