The Nomad From Morwood

[Terpenetime]

“Quality is remembered long after price is forgotten” is another quote that springs to mind!

 

[Alan]

Welcome @SouthWestSensi !
Either @Ed's TnT or @Alan can make you a wpa. I think @duff had success using the original glass stem into a 14mm bubbler. I have two wpa for my Epicvape Nano, one slides into the Nomad perfectly, and the other is too big to fit. So I can't recommend ordering one from Epic in hopes it fits. But if you have a Nano and some gongs already, wouldn't hurt to check. I will have to revisit the bubbler experience with the Nomad as I didn't have my technique fully down when I tried it. But I'm also more of a flavor guy and the bubbler usually taints it for coolness with most vapes I have and I usually prefer going from stem straight to my vape hole.

New stem to match my collar from @Alan has been kicking ass. I haven't used a glass one since getting my Blackwood stem from Ed, now having two wooden stems is perfect for me. Alan said he had a piece of Padauk that might go well.
Perfect imo:

Wear & Tear update 10 months in on #001
Bottom corners have some scuffing going on from traveling in cargo pockets and going in and out of its soft travel case. Some discoloration in the gold where the hand holds it most. Breaking in nicely like a guitar that gets played a lot.
Dan's final finish has changed since, so ymmv and I have not babied it since the third month in.

That is almost a perfect color match for the collar. Did you have any luck w/ the 10mm dosing capsule in one end of the tube? Very nice looking vaporizer.

Always happy to turn a custom wooden tube for anyone interested. I can turn a perfect 1/10 taper on one end for a 14mm connection. Other options are available too.

 

[DirtyD]

I love love love my #36 . Delicious tasty hits, I can go all taste or all punch you face just with button + breath technique. Get on the waiting list. My favorite vape along with vapcaps and a lil bud. Yes the waiting is the only bad thing about the Nomad. I love this machine. Simple yet elegant. I'm going to hit the Nomad a bit and enjoy my Sunday. Cheers! More beers! D.

 

[little maggie]

Just wondering how owners are dealing with stems and screens. I have no problems with the glass ones that came with my Nomad. I use double screens on all my vapes and I like the way I can just push the screens from one end to the other on the Nomad.
But I've had problems when I've tried anything else. None of my other glass stems fit and I recently bought a wood RBT one made for the Nomad. I couldn't fit a second screen in so the grindings either fell into the nomad or into my mouth depending on how the screen was set.
I tend to break glass so want something more solid.

 

[Copacetic]

Just wondering how owners are dealing with stems and screens. I have no problems with the glass ones that came with my Nomad. I use double screens on all my vapes and I like the way I can just push the screens from one end to the other on the Nomad.
But I've had problems when I've tried anything else. None of my other glass stems fit and I recently bought a wood RBT one made for the Nomad. I couldn't fit a second screen in so the grindings either fell into the nomad or into my mouth depending on how the screen was set.
I tend to break glass so want something more solid.

Do you mean you got a wood stem from Alan?
RBT stems aren't compatible with the Nomad, it's a different style of stem.
The RBT style stems use tapered joints, but Dan has used straight glass tubes in the Nomad.
Alan and Ed's TNT have both made wooden stems for the Nomad though.
I'm going to turn a couple too, but not until I have my Nomad.

 

[Vaporware]

Just wondering how owners are dealing with stems and screens. I have no problems with the glass ones that came with my Nomad. I use double screens on all my vapes and I like the way I can just push the screens from one end to the other on the Nomad.
But I've had problems when I've tried anything else. None of my other glass stems fit and I recently bought a wood RBT one made for the Nomad. I couldn't fit a second screen in so the grindings either fell into the nomad or into my mouth depending on how the screen was set.
I tend to break glass so want something more solid.

If you want to use that stem with the Nomad, it would probably help to put a flat screen inside the Nomad if you don’t already have one there. It will sit on the little ledge that holds the stem above the heater.

Like @Copacetic said though, there are other stems made just for the Nomad that shouldn’t have this issue. Vgoodiez.com had some made by Ed last time I looked.

I’m also interested in trying a glass stem with features designed for added cooling like glass balls sealed in the stem or a bunch of pressed in sections covering most of the stem but leaving room for 2 screens and a wooden ring.

If anyone finds an appropriate one let me know, or if you think they’re just not necessary with the Nomad, I’d like to hear that too! Mine’s in batch 3 so I still haven’t got to try one myself.

 

[ClearBlueLou]

I was just looking at your link, and I see there are short and long stems for Nomad.
Is there a thing about stem length?

 

[little maggie]

I'm brainless- the one I'm talking about is one of Ed's from Vgoodiez. Still no room for a second screen and I'm not totally sure how to put a flat one in the nomad. I might have gotten rid of them all since I use the cup shaped one.
Anyway, I forgot that Alan makes wood ones and it's likely he'll customize one to fit the screens.
Re cooling: I had one with glass balls and it was very fragile and broke. I also have a larger cooling one from RBT. So far, using Dan's stem, the Nomad is pretty cool without anything else.

Update: I found in my screens a capsule that fits perfectly in the wood mp. I don't know what vape it was made for. It'd be nice to have a couple more.

 

[Copacetic]

I'm brainless- the one I'm talking about is one of Ed's from Vgoodiez. Still no room for a second screen and I'm not totally sure how to put a flat one in the nomad. I might have gotten rid of them all since I use the cup shaped one.
Anyway, I forgot that Alan makes wood ones and it's likely he'll customize one to fit the screens.
Re cooling: I had one with glass balls and it was very fragile and broke. I also have a larger cooling one from RBT. So far, using Dan's stem, the Nomad is pretty cool without anything else.

Update: I found in my screens a capsule that fits perfectly in the wood mp. I don't know what vape it was made for. It'd be nice to have a couple more.

Post a pic of your capsule, maybe one of us can identify it.
I believe I've read here that both the capsules for the Fury 2, and the POTV ONE fit inside the glass stem, but leave a tiny gap around the side.
Someone posted that this gap resulted in less than satisfactory results, but another member seemed happy with their vapour from the same/similar setup, so I guess it's a matter of trying it out for yourself to see.

Capsules seem to me to be potentially great for out and about use if they can be made to work well.
When I get my batch 2 Nomad I plan to make at least one of my wood stems so that it is a snug fit around the 'deep' end of a capsule (something with mesh sides like the Fury 2 ones) deliberately leaving about a millimeter clearance around most of the sides to encourage hot air to enter, and be sucked through the load from all around thereby allowing a greater range of draw speed without 'hot-spotting'.
I'm hoping that the 'deep end' of the capsule being a snug fit for a few mm should prevent the hot air simply being pulled past the capsule without heating the load.

This may all prove to be unnecessary, as most Nomad owners so far seem to have found a perfectly satisfactory screen/load arrangement, and no-one has complained of hot spots, but I am drawn to the idea of capsules for convenience on the go (and not having to regulate my draw speed).
There's every chance I'll stick with the glass stem anyway, but I love to tinker!

It's good that you found a capsule that fits your wood stem @little maggie,
Perhaps the wood stem has slightly thicker walls, and therefore a tighter bore than Dans original glass stems, allowing for a more snug fit?
Is the capsule loose in the glass stem, or snug?

 

[Vaporware]

I was just looking at your link, and I see there are short and long stems for Nomad.
Is there a thing about stem length?

I think Ed’s “short” stems are the same length as all of Dan’s stems. The “long” ones say they have a 14mm WPA (water pipe adapter) on the end, so that explains the extra length and the ring around the outside.

I know people have been using the stock stems through their 14mm pieces anyway, but I guess it might provide a more solid and less fragile connection.

 

[GetLeft]

Dan's double-screen, wooden ring set up is in essence a capsule, although reloading it on the go isn't carefree since it involves several parts, any of which can be dropped. I believe a POV One capsule was referenced earlier in the thread as a good fit for the Nomad (a better fit that the F2 capsules which I didn't care for with my Nomad).

I don't use the double screen. The second screen isn't necessary once the flat screen is dropped in above the heater, and it increases heat up time, as do the F2 capsules. I just pulled my Nomad from my pocket where I stashed it as I left the house earlier. I use a single screen, cup style. The load in the stem in the pictures is 2 or 3 draws in (how I left it last night I guess). With proper technique (drawing vapor through slowly once it has had the chance to form), things roast up nice and evenly. A little bit visible in the top image is how the bottom portion of the material is the last to brown (of course). Dan's ring system allows you to just push that less-roasted end to the opposite end of the stem. I tend to give a quick stir - hassle free using the tiny tweezers of my pocket knife - before my final draw. But but I also get lazy at times and continue to roast without a stir and still get thorough roasting.

Using this single screen method, it's just as easy if not easier to clear the roasted material with a quick blow followed by a quick reload (a pinch into the top of the stem) than it is to push the load from one end of the stem to the other or to unload and reload capsules. It's also preferable for me since the heat up is quicker without the added mass of a capsule. With a fresh cell, 20 seconds start to finish for a great first hit when using nicely cured material. It will take longer if the material is a little moist. One of my earliest observations with my Nomad was that sometimes the first hit of a fresh load is to dry things up, making the second hit the payoff.

 

[MonkeyTime]

For what it's worth, I have the POTV capsules, they fit one of my stock stems, but not the other. Inconsistencies of glass...

They work fine, but all of mine are already having issues with the Caps staying on. They're friction fit and my friction has disappeared

 

[ClearBlueLou]

Dan's double-screen, wooden ring set up is in essence a capsule, although reloading it on the go isn't carefree since it involves several parts, any of which can be dropped. I believe a POV One capsule was referenced earlier in the thread as a good fit for the Nomad (a better fit that the F2 capsules which I didn't care for with my Nomad).

I don't use the double screen. The second screen isn't necessary once the flat screen is dropped in above the heater, and it increases heat up time, as do the F2 capsules. I just pulled my Nomad from my pocket where I stashed it as I left the house earlier. I use a single screen, cup style. The load in the stem in the pictures is 2 or 3 draws in (how I left it last night I guess). With proper technique (drawing vapor through slowly once it has had the chance to form), things roast up nice and evenly. A little bit visible in the top image is how the bottom portion of the material is the last to brown (of course). Dan's ring system allows you to just push that less-roasted end to the opposite end of the stem. I tend to give a quick stir - hassle free using the tiny tweezers of my pocket knife - before my final draw. But but I also get lazy at times and continue to roast without a stir and still get thorough roasting.

Using this single screen method, it's just as easy if not easier to clear the roasted material with a quick blow followed by a quick reload (a pinch into the top of the stem) than it is to push the load from one end of the stem to the other or to unload and reload capsules. It's also preferable for me since the heat up is quicker without the added mass of a capsule. With a fresh cell, 20 seconds start to finish for a great first hit when using nicely cured material. It will take longer if the material is a little moist. One of my earliest observations with my Nomad was that sometimes the first hit of a fresh load is to dry things up, making the second hit the payoff.

So you basically have your herb right there at your mouth???
Seems like accidental inhalation just waiting to happen....

 

[Copacetic]

So you basically have your herb right there at your mouth???
Seems like accidental inhalation just waiting to happen....


NOOOOO, the other end!

 

[Ramahs]

So you basically have your herb right there at your mouth???
Seems like accidental inhalation just waiting to happen....

You wha...., you think he...huhh...????

 

[little maggie]

I'm brainless- the one I'm talking about is one of Ed's from Vgoodiez. Still no room for a second screen and I'm not totally sure how to put a flat one in the nomad. I might have gotten rid of them all since I use the cup shaped one.
Anyway, I forgot that Alan makes wood ones and it's likely he'll customize one to fit the screens.
Re cooling: I had one with glass balls and it was very fragile and broke. I also have a larger cooling one from RBT. So far, using Dan's stem, the Nomad is pretty cool without anything else.

Update: I found in my screens a capsule that fits perfectly in the wood mp. I don't know what vape it was made for. It'd be nice to have a couple more.

And given what other's have said I'm pretty sure my capsule is a Fury 2. It fits snugly and takes a bit of effort to remove. Possibly the wood stems are slightly different so the capsule varies in tightness.

 

[ClearBlueLou]


NOOOOO, the other end!

You wha...., you think he...huhh...????

Sorry, y’all - I’ve never seen something like this loaded or used, ever.

...so my next great question is, do you turn the nomad upside down and push the weed end of the stem up into it?
Or do you just pack the stem tight enough that it doesn’t fall out?

And surely, this must touch on the one-screen / two-screen thing?

 

[Copacetic]

Sorry, y’all - I’ve never seen something like this loaded or used, ever.

...so my next great question is, do you turn the nomad upside down and push the weed end of the stem up into it?
Or do you just pack the stem tight enough that it doesn’t fall out?

And surely, this must touch on the one-screen / two-screen thing?

No worries
I think either of the approaches you've described could be used, as with most stem vapes.
I'd describe this method as 'single screen' despite the fact that most Nomads used like this are highly likely to a second 'body screen' fitted in the vape itself to prevent herb falling out of the stem onto the heater.
Dan supplies this larger body screen too I believe.

 

[ClearBlueLou]

Thank you! I managed to learn something about stem vapes *and* about the nomad.

 

[GetLeft]

despite the fact that most Nomads used like this are highly likely to a second 'body screen' fitted in the vape itself

True!
I tried my nm (I'm tired of writing Nomad...) without the 'body screen' (the one that can be set inside the vaporizer right above the heater). Quickest way to get the material to vaping temps. But some debris will inevitably fall into the heater. So I opted to set the body screen in place. I have no issues with keeping material inside the stem. I guess grind probably plays a role. I think Dan mentioned a while back (don't quote me) finding a finer grind to be effective, but I believe he uses the two stem screen method. I use more of a medium 'one size fits multiple vapes' grind and give just a slight tamp. While a decent amount of material can be patted firmly into the nm stem, I've found performance to be best with smaller loads and lighter packs.

 

[Copacetic]

Dan has been pursuing all the rabbits, down all the holes on my behalf, and has just sent me final mockups.
To say I'm excited would definitely be underselling the situation .

I won't preempt the final piece by revealing work in progress, I'll just post this super close-up, and say Dan is producing something a little off the beaten track for me.
I mean, there's barely any track visible when every piece is so different anyway, but Dan has really bent over backwards to attempt several different vague approaches I've suggested, and I love what he's whittled them down to.
Can't wait to see the real thing
As an insight into a TINY part of the efforts Dan has expended on my behalf, here's a super close up of a test piece done in paint which Dan has made himself from raw pigments and other ingedients ordered especially to meet my desires for my custom sleeve:
https://ibb.co/x3JSyJ7


Sorry/not sorry for the teaser
Our conversation has roamed all over from raku pottery to obscure Japanese lacquer and paint techniques and it's already given me all sorts of warm fuzzies re' Dans commission style mindset, and I can't wait to see the final result of all his hard work.

 

[Vaporware]

Dan has been pursuing all the rabbits, down all the holes on my behalf, and has just sent me final mockups.
To say I'm excited would definitely be underselling the situation .

I won't preempt the final piece by revealing work in progress, I'll just post this super close-up, and say Dan is producing something a little off the beaten track for me.
I mean, there's barely any track visible when every piece is so different anyway, but Dan has really bent over backwards to attempt several different vague approaches I've suggested, and I love what he's whittled them down to.
Can't wait to see the real thing
As an insight into a TINY part of the efforts Dan has expended on my behalf, here's a super close up of a test piece done in paint which Dan has made himself from raw pigments and other ingedients ordered especially to meet my desires for my custom sleeve:
https://ibb.co/x3JSyJ7


Sorry/not sorry for the teaser
Our conversation has roamed all over from raku pottery to obscure Japanese lacquer and paint techniques and it's already given me all sorts of warm fuzzies re' Dans commission style mindset, and I can't wait to see the final result of all his hard work.

That’s a great tease...

They’re all beautiful I can tell that yours is going to be one of those extra-special ones!

 

[jds]

I love love love my #36 . Delicious tasty hits, I can go all taste or all punch you face just with button + breath technique. Get on the waiting list. My favorite vape along with vapcaps and a lil bud. Yes the waiting is the only bad thing about the Nomad. I love this machine. Simple yet elegant. I'm going to hit the Nomad a bit and enjoy my Sunday. Cheers! More beers! D.

Your post, along with many others in this thread, have finally convinced me to get on the wait list. I can't wait! I'm already thinking about what kind of custom options I'd like. It really seems like a great vape, and the fact that you can get it customized makes it even better.

Now, the hard part will be waiting those few months before my name comes up.

 

[little maggie]

Dan has been amazing working with those who wanted to design a customized shell. I did the opposite- I saw a picture on his recommended website, fell in love with it. Mine is standard in a way but also unique.

 

[Copacetic]

Dan has been amazing working with those who wanted to design a customized shell. I did the opposite- I saw a picture on his recommended website, fell in love with it. Mine is standard in a way but also unique.

Not really any such thing as 'standard' from Morwood!
Unless we renegotiate 'standard'