The Lotus Vaporizer
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ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
I'm not qualified to give reviews.
However it's a fun tasty vape.
No plug or batteries!
It will be a part of my quiver.
I like my SOLO'S for ease of use. (Different)
We all have different needs.
The LOTUS is very practical from my limited experience!
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BlazedAndConfused
Formerly mr.nicksta
Been following this thread and I'm now seriously thinking of buying the lotus. I'll probably get pipe + WPA kit. Before I buy I'm wondering if anyone could answer some questions for me...
Is it worth getting the better lighter, or is the standard good enough? What butane brands are best and where do other UK heads get theirs?
Also, I'm completely clueless with glassware so hoping someone could give me a run down on what I need to hook up the lotus w/ WPA to a bong?
Finally, is the short stem likely to be a harsh hit? Would like something that's easy to slip in a pocket, but I'd prefer a smoother hit. So if a longer pipe is what it takes I'll go for that
Can't wait to get back to vaping daily since months of combusting after breaking my DBV
Is it worth getting the better lighter, or is the standard good enough? What butane brands are best and where do other UK heads get theirs?
Also, I'm completely clueless with glassware so hoping someone could give me a run down on what I need to hook up the lotus w/ WPA to a bong?
Finally, is the short stem likely to be a harsh hit? Would like something that's easy to slip in a pocket, but I'd prefer a smoother hit. So if a longer pipe is what it takes I'll go for that
Can't wait to get back to vaping daily since months of combusting after breaking my DBV
vorrange
Vapor.wise
Mr.nicksta, an Ehle 250 is great with the wpa, get it at head-nature.com with a diffused stem.
If you're going to order butane online, get the better lighter at the same shop as the butane.
I have the kit lighter and works well but some reported bad lighters, and a better lighter will provide a better experience or at least a more reliable one. The honest start to lose power when the reservatory is less than half full and you need to open the nozzle a bit, that probably doesn't happen in a better lighter.
About butane brands, i use cheap butane but i hear Colibri and Vector are good. Look for 5x filtered butane.
If you're going to order butane online, get the better lighter at the same shop as the butane.
I have the kit lighter and works well but some reported bad lighters, and a better lighter will provide a better experience or at least a more reliable one. The honest start to lose power when the reservatory is less than half full and you need to open the nozzle a bit, that probably doesn't happen in a better lighter.
About butane brands, i use cheap butane but i hear Colibri and Vector are good. Look for 5x filtered butane.
natural farmer
Well-Known Member
Been following this thread and I'm now seriously thinking of buying the lotus. I'll probably get pipe + WPA kit. Before I buy I'm wondering if anyone could answer some questions for me...
Is it worth getting the better lighter, or is the standard good enough? What butane brands are best and where do other UK heads get theirs?
Also, I'm completely clueless with glassware so hoping someone could give me a run down on what I need to hook up the lotus w/ WPA to a bong?
Finally, is the short stem likely to be a harsh hit? Would like something that's easy to slip in a pocket, but I'd prefer a smoother hit. So if a longer pipe is what it takes I'll go for that
Can't wait to get back to vaping daily since months of combusting after breaking my DBV
Sensible move mate…
The better lighter, the sleek one, didn't work for long for my brother who got it, I had better luck with the standard Honests. I don't get these from the same place with the Lotus though. I get a dozen from dx.com and usually only a couple are busted. The rest are good for many months to come. They are so dirt cheap that makes sense to me. I still haven't settled for a more reliable torch and hesitate forging any serious money for lighters. Maybe later…
I prefer the long stem to the short one. For me it's smoother. Not that big of a difference in size imo. Long one is still pocketable but I prefer keeping the Lotus n a nice pouch to protect the hot plate from dents… I would suggest the longer one!
Have fun!
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
I have some 007 looking high tech torches.
The cheap one works best really!
Save your money for a water pipe!
Then again my $28.00 Bubbler works fine!
BlazedAndConfused
Formerly mr.nicksta
Just purchased! After your advice I went with long stem and standard lighter. Thanks for your advice guys. CANNOT WAIT!!!!!!
@Max Jitter As a web developer, can I make a suggestion for the website (don't know why I'm asking, I'm going to make one anyway
)? The whole checkout process (of course apart from interaction with paypal) is handled insecurely - that is, the site is served over http and not https. Not assuming any technical competency, so I'll explain what I mean. Basically http is an insecure protocol in that data can be sniffed or tampered in transit. However, https guarantees security as communication is encrypted, safe from sniffing or tampering in transit. Whilst you're not accepting credit card details insecurely, you are taking a number of personal details (email, name, at least one address), which given the product being purchased might be considered sensitive data, and should be treated as such.
Hopefully that doesn't come off badly, just trying to give a friendly tip in case you weren't aware of the issue or implications of http. I regularly teach non-technically inclined people to never buy from sites without https. So apart part from being the Right Thing To Do™, and putting paranoid nerds like me at ease, it may also help your conversion
@Max Jitter As a web developer, can I make a suggestion for the website (don't know why I'm asking, I'm going to make one anyway
)? The whole checkout process (of course apart from interaction with paypal) is handled insecurely - that is, the site is served over http and not https. Not assuming any technical competency, so I'll explain what I mean. Basically http is an insecure protocol in that data can be sniffed or tampered in transit. However, https guarantees security as communication is encrypted, safe from sniffing or tampering in transit. Whilst you're not accepting credit card details insecurely, you are taking a number of personal details (email, name, at least one address), which given the product being purchased might be considered sensitive data, and should be treated as such.Hopefully that doesn't come off badly, just trying to give a friendly tip in case you weren't aware of the issue or implications of http. I regularly teach non-technically inclined people to never buy from sites without https. So apart part from being the Right Thing To Do™, and putting paranoid nerds like me at ease, it may also help your conversion
The Lotus Rangers come through again. Thanks, I appreciate the feedback.Just purchased! After your advice I went with long stem and standard lighter. Thanks for your advice guys. CANNOT WAIT!!!!!!
@Max Jitter As a web developer, can I make a suggestion for the website (don't know why I'm asking, I'm going to make one anyway
Hopefully that doesn't come off badly, just trying to give a friendly tip in case you weren't aware of the issue or implications of http. I regularly teach non-technically inclined people to never buy from sites without https. So apart part from being the Right Thing To Do™, and putting paranoid nerds like me at ease, it may also help your conversion
sherb
Well-Known Member
Should the center of the heating plate get red at any point during the process? I got to use my Lotus for the first time yesterday and it was very difficult to get any vapor at all without getting the plate red. It was not a glowing red covering the whole plate, but a soft, 1-2 mm wide spot that followed the lighter around as I moved it in circles over the plate. Is this normal?
In addition, when it gets red a funky smell comes into the air, which is why I am asking.
The manual said to apply the torch for 2 seconds before inhaling, but if I did that I couldn't get any vapor at all. I'm really wondering if I'm doing it right.
Has anyone typed up, or know of, an in depth users guide to the Lotus? I'm pretty sure I've read some in this topic but haven't been able to find any.
In addition, when it gets red a funky smell comes into the air, which is why I am asking.
The manual said to apply the torch for 2 seconds before inhaling, but if I did that I couldn't get any vapor at all. I'm really wondering if I'm doing it right.
Has anyone typed up, or know of, an in depth users guide to the Lotus? I'm pretty sure I've read some in this topic but haven't been able to find any.
jambandphan03
in flavor country
There is a lot of good info about this in past 30 or so pages of this thread, might wanna go back a bit and read up so we don't have repeat posts about a subject that was recently discussed. I will give you one tip that took me a while to figure out, aim for the very center.
Here is a good starting point: http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-lotus-vaporizer.2595/page-70#post-510128
Here is a good starting point: http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-lotus-vaporizer.2595/page-70#post-510128
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deadheadbill
I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...
Yes. That red dot is the best way to judge your heat in my experience. Once it gets red, I start to feather the heat. Much like a wax pen or something.
jambandphan03
in flavor country
That's part of the learning curve, figuring out your heat process, but it will go by quickly, and it also helps to watch youtube vids to see how others are getting results.
So how many have made the horrible mistake of forgetting to put the cap on before torching the bowl?
I've done it 3 times so far, not paying attention. 
So how many have made the horrible mistake of forgetting to put the cap on before torching the bowl?
I've done it 3 times so far, not paying attention.
deadheadbill
I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...
After a couple of bowls I assume.
I haven't done that yet. But I'm sure it will come.
I haven't done that yet. But I'm sure it will come.
Bouldorado
Well-Known Member
Thought I'd share a mod I made to the lotus. I call it the concentrate cup. Basically what it does is reduce the bowl diameter so you don't have to cover the whole screen with material. I find the smaller diameter also eliminates the need to stir, since it vapes more evenly. So far I've tried it with kief and bubble hash and it works great with both.
The "cup" is a cheap domeless quartz nail which I drilled out and cut the head off of. There's a small screen on the bottom of it. Since the quartz head sits slightly above the SS bowl, I added a tie-wrap to the SS bowl to elevate the heating plate.
The "cup" is a cheap domeless quartz nail which I drilled out and cut the head off of. There's a small screen on the bottom of it. Since the quartz head sits slightly above the SS bowl, I added a tie-wrap to the SS bowl to elevate the heating plate.
deadheadbill
I can see clearly now the smoke is gone...
Getting ready to load a bowl in the Lotus and hit some Elder Scrolls beta.
Surf Monkey
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Got mine today. I chose the short stem kit with black vapor cap. It's significantly more substantial than I expected. Very finely crafted. Minimalist where it counts.
It took two runs to get it right. On the first try I heated too long and drew too slowly. Got into a combustion situation and stopped. After a quick cleaning the second run was perfect. I got the lighter control just right. Flavorful first draw and then a stunningly large second that I was sure must have involved some combustion, but no. Just lightly golden material. Third draw just like the second. Huge, smooth and equal in my experience only to the various tabletop vapes I've owned.
I'll give it a couple weeks to get past the initial impression stage, because at the moment I'm very enthusiastic about it. I will commit to this: of any vape I've owned this one had the shortest learning curve and the most unexpectedly good results.
It took two runs to get it right. On the first try I heated too long and drew too slowly. Got into a combustion situation and stopped. After a quick cleaning the second run was perfect. I got the lighter control just right. Flavorful first draw and then a stunningly large second that I was sure must have involved some combustion, but no. Just lightly golden material. Third draw just like the second. Huge, smooth and equal in my experience only to the various tabletop vapes I've owned.
I'll give it a couple weeks to get past the initial impression stage, because at the moment I'm very enthusiastic about it. I will commit to this: of any vape I've owned this one had the shortest learning curve and the most unexpectedly good results.
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
I will rip on it again before bed with some GPD FLOWERS.
I love my SOLO's however I like the simple operation of the LOTUS.
Now I need to refill my lighters.
I'm having great results with some tootsie roll consistency hash, full melt, have tried it a few ways.
1. straight on the screen, but don't like thinking some of it may powderize and not be utilitzed properly. I notice a lot of buildup inside the wpa so a lot of vape ash and whatever does oveheat seems to accumulate much more than with other digital vaporizers. Not necessarily a negative, just an observation that it requires more cleaning and that stuff gets sticky and gummy so you want to use ISO to keep it clean.
2. as a base, then you add wax on top. You grab a bit of the full melt, make it as flat and round as you can, then lay it in flat and center on the screen, then use it straight or add some other wax on top of it. Works great and then you get double duty.
3. I have had challenges with flower and hash where sometimes the hash doesn't seem to heat up enough without the flower combusting. To be safe, I tried the hash pancake on top of the flower which worked much better as i made sure the pancake was large enough to cover almost the full size of the screen and pretty much covered the flower which made it more likely to heat without combusting. It all tasted amazing and this way was also able to include additional wax if desired for a true 3 part salad.
I've experimeneted with some butter with flower as a base, and any kind of wax, butter/crumble, honeycomb and even some sticky taffy like stuff. It all works well and tastes amazing in the Lotus ( and most of the other devices I have presently, but they aren't getting much use thses days).
I must say though that i really don't like the Cotton and am also looking for the best alternative short of something like the coil cut down from the herc sr71 so the concentrate can have some resistance as it melts and drips away.
As i have seen the idea to cut down a nail and use it as a bowl, I would like to find something that can help minimize what might leak through. I have used cotton but not sure I can continue to use it with the Lotus due to its ability to combust. I have done this multiple times and I must admit I have had some nasty results when overheating while using cotton with both flower and hash. If not mentioned previously, I have discovered that you want to be careful about how you place the flower under the hash as the hash needs more flame time and heat FME and the flower will likely burn. Wax on top of flower is amazing BTW, as well as wax on top of some full melt.
1. straight on the screen, but don't like thinking some of it may powderize and not be utilitzed properly. I notice a lot of buildup inside the wpa so a lot of vape ash and whatever does oveheat seems to accumulate much more than with other digital vaporizers. Not necessarily a negative, just an observation that it requires more cleaning and that stuff gets sticky and gummy so you want to use ISO to keep it clean.
2. as a base, then you add wax on top. You grab a bit of the full melt, make it as flat and round as you can, then lay it in flat and center on the screen, then use it straight or add some other wax on top of it. Works great and then you get double duty.
3. I have had challenges with flower and hash where sometimes the hash doesn't seem to heat up enough without the flower combusting. To be safe, I tried the hash pancake on top of the flower which worked much better as i made sure the pancake was large enough to cover almost the full size of the screen and pretty much covered the flower which made it more likely to heat without combusting. It all tasted amazing and this way was also able to include additional wax if desired for a true 3 part salad.
I've experimeneted with some butter with flower as a base, and any kind of wax, butter/crumble, honeycomb and even some sticky taffy like stuff. It all works well and tastes amazing in the Lotus ( and most of the other devices I have presently, but they aren't getting much use thses days).
I must say though that i really don't like the Cotton and am also looking for the best alternative short of something like the coil cut down from the herc sr71 so the concentrate can have some resistance as it melts and drips away.
As i have seen the idea to cut down a nail and use it as a bowl, I would like to find something that can help minimize what might leak through. I have used cotton but not sure I can continue to use it with the Lotus due to its ability to combust. I have done this multiple times and I must admit I have had some nasty results when overheating while using cotton with both flower and hash. If not mentioned previously, I have discovered that you want to be careful about how you place the flower under the hash as the hash needs more flame time and heat FME and the flower will likely burn. Wax on top of flower is amazing BTW, as well as wax on top of some full melt.
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
I don't like cotton!
The HERCULES SR74 is plug and play.
When I wake up I will try full melt in the lotus.
However flowers work well in the Lotus.
Concentrates take more work so I want this kept easy!
samirfuzzywuzzy
Well-Known Member
Lotus is relaxing in a hostile environment with no sense of threat at all!!!
BlazedAndConfused
Formerly mr.nicksta
Mine shipped out today, hope it arrives in the UK quickly. Can't wait to get back vaping after a 6 month hiatus.
Now to shop for some glass! Is it wise to buy overseas or is there a likelihood of breakage? As I said previously I have no idea about glass bongs, will the lotus wpa fit any down stem? In fact will it fit an acrylic bong since I have a few of those laying about the house anyway?
Now to shop for some glass! Is it wise to buy overseas or is there a likelihood of breakage? As I said previously I have no idea about glass bongs, will the lotus wpa fit any down stem? In fact will it fit an acrylic bong since I have a few of those laying about the house anyway?
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