The Lotus Vaporizer

Snappo

Snappo

Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!"
Accessory Maker
FlyingLow said:
Thanks Vorrange.

I have not heard anything, so it looks like I am going to place the order.
Does anyone know a 420 code for Lotus?
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FlyingLow - My humble advice would be to of course place an order for a new cap ...BUT, with a note referencing your unanswered correspondences. I think, in all fairness, through good communication, an attempt at diagnosis and suggestion for remedy should have been forthcoming to you. And because you are so diligent in reporting to we FC members, such information would be passed along to benefit us all as well, which in turn would serve to benefit Max's company also. I know you will keep us closely informed on this matter. Good luck!!!
 
FlyingLow

FlyingLow

Team NO SLEEP!
I appreciate y'all exploring these issues, I am just as curious to know why this is happening, and I want to "get right."

I am going to order a 3rd plate and will turn the flame down; if a 3rd plate cracks like the first two, I can only assume that there is something defective with the cap and how the plate mounts to it. Clearly no one else has experienced these issues and we are exhausting all other potential issues with my setup. Should the 3rd fail, I hope that they would help me out with a replacement cap under warranty so that I can get this back in position as my daily driver.

Should I go ahead and buy now, or do you think they will have greater discounts in two days?



Cool news Ratchett, I am eager to see what they put out next. :cool:



Thanks Snappo! If the prices come down enough on 4/20 I may go ahead and order a new cap with a note detailing my troubles; but I am going to try to avoid the expense if I can. I am trying to handle this the right way, having a resource like FC is incredibly helpful for me to gain from others experiences and I have learned these forums can be an amazing tool if used correctly. It is all to easy to be another ambiguous poster bitching and complaining; I would rather learn from others, correct my mistakes/techniques, and provide constructive input to help improve the products and devices I use- That is one of the main reasons I got so turned onto Mendo, they do seem to listen to their customer base.

We will get this sorted out, I am sure they are a just bit busy with 420 sales and other pertinent matters. I will keep y'all posted, and thank you all for the troubleshooting help.
 
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Snappo

Snappo

Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!"
Accessory Maker
ataxian said:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121173846240?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Do you have this Torch?
It works every time for me.
However I might be wrong?
I like the LOTUS ever since I got this lighter!

Game Changer.

One more thing @Snappo :

I like your water set up.
I want that!
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@ataxian - Thank you! I will order the torch per your recommendation (which I always trust!).
For the J-Hook/Reclaimer set-up, order from the following - tell them Snappo from FC sent you (attach the #3451 code link from above for picture reference):
OGB - michaelandrews@hrecn.net (Reclaimer)
Lotus Glassworks - jesse@lotusglass.com (J-Hook)
 
FlyingLow

FlyingLow

Team NO SLEEP!
Here is the dual torch lighter I upgraded to:

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SSVUN~YAH

SSVUN~YAH

You Must Unlearn, What You Have Learned...
FlyingLow said:
Should I go ahead and buy now, or do you think they will have greater discounts in two days?
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I would imagine your safe to order now...

FlyingLow said:
Here is the dual torch lighter I upgraded to:

sku_17154_1.jpg
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Yeah, there is your culprit, just get ya a Madelaine Fury and you will be a happy camper and won't have to worry about lighter woes...
 
Snappo

Snappo

Caveat Emptor - "A Billion People Can Be Wrong!"
Accessory Maker
FlyingLow said:
Here is the dual torch lighter I upgraded to:

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@FlyingLow - this style, I would think, restricts you to aiming at the dot from an angle less than 90 degrees, which could cause you to inadvertently aim off-center and towards the rim of the dimple. Get a torch with a 90 degree bend is my suggestion.
 
FlyingLow

FlyingLow

Team NO SLEEP!
Thanks a million guys for all your help!
I just got a note from Lotus and they are going to look into it for me.

I am sending them the cap back, and am going to go ahead and include my payment information for them in case they determine I am at fault.

If it is decided the failures were actually due to overheating, that is certainly my fault:(
Looks like we will find out shortly and I am going to send it in for service.

I guess another test would be to put a new plate on it, and give it to a more experienced user for a few weeks to see if it also cracks under a more experienced user's touch... I never thought I would need it unless I ran outta butane, but thank gawd I gotta backup.



FWIW~ As I expected, my original email just slipped through the cracks and their lack of response was unintentional. These guys are on it!
 
artist

artist

livin'in vapooodia
hi all you nice folks at fc!
and 1st, thanx for all your information about this nice vaporizer,
got the lotus-kit with long stem, trhough a german vaposhop, "verdampftnochmal" a very good shop for eu customers, shippment was very fast etc,,,,

but now! since yesterday....

@FlyingLow , i got the same problem as you have got with the lotus, i used it for the last 9 days,
the way it is shown in the instructions
plus all the super input from this forum,
never burned the material, only used the 'honest' lighter that was in the box, with high quality butane,
on the exact flame lenght etc...
and since yesterday night, after only nine days and about 10 daily uses, i got a 1 cm long crack exactly on the same place where @FlyingLow's two lotus-plates broke,
so i guess this is the material and not the user,
i then directly send a mail to them (verdampftnochmal-shop) yesterday night,
but here it is weekend for the moment so i will have to wait until monday for a response....
hope you will get everything replaced on warranty and that those issues will be resolved,

another, more personal concern is the nickelplate, i went trhough a lot of reading on german and other internet sites about nickel and there was always the concern about nickel fumes, i know, on the manufacturer site, i read all the test pdf's, but what is still not clear to me:
is the amount of nickel fumes that you inhale on the same level of what you breath in dayli trhough ambient air in each draw ?
or is the amount of a +\- all day use of the lotus the same as what you dayli breath in through ambient air,
because if ,in the case you get the day amount with each draw you take...then, unfortunately, i wont use this device anymore, cause then you are inhaling 10+ times of what is ok for the body...?!?
can somebody with chemical knowledge please put some info in on that purpose? :-)
please don't get me wrong, the lotus is such a great vaporizer, i just want to be really relaxed on that question,
i just like to stay as healthy as possible.:-)

thanks a lot in advance for any ideas, knowledge or informations :-)
 
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Fenton Mewley

Fenton Mewley

A man in search of cloudier pastures
artist said:
hi all you nice folks at fc!
and 1st, thanx for all your information about this nice vaporizer,
got the lotus-kit with long stem, trhough a german vaposhop, "verdampftnochmal" a very good shop for eu customers, shippment was very fast etc,,,,

but now! since yesterday....

@FlyingLow , i got the same problem as you have got with the lotus, i used it for the last 9 days,
the way it is shown in the instructions
plus all the super input from this forum,
never burned the material, only used the 'honest' lighter that was in the box, with high quality butane,
on the exact flame lenght etc...
and since yesterday night, after only nine days and about 10 daily uses, i got a 1 cm long crack exactly on the same place where @FlyingLow's two lotus-plates broke,
so i guess this is the material and not the user,
i then directly send a mail to them (verdampftnochmal-shop) yesterday night,
but here it is weekend for the moment so i will have to wait until monday for a response....
hope you will get everything replaced on warranty and that those issues will be resolved,

another, more personal concern is the nickelplate, i went trhough a lot of reading on german and other internet sites about nickel and there was always the concern about nickel fumes, i know, on the manufacturer site, i read all the test pdf's, but what is still not clear to me:
is the amount of nickel fumes that you inhale on the same level of what you breath in dayli trhough ambient air in each draw ?
or is the amount of a +\- all day use of the lotus the same as what you dayli breath in through ambient air,
because if ,in the case you get the day amount with each draw you take...then, unfortunately, i wont use this device anymore, cause then you are inhaling 10+ times of what is ok for the body...?!?
can somebody with chemical knowledge please put some info in on that purpose? :-)
please don't get me wrong, the lotus is such a great vaporizer, i just want to be really relaxed on that question,
i just like to stay as healthy as possible.:-)

thanks a lot in advance for any ideas, knowledge or informations :-)
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They found 0.003 µgm of Nickel with 4 minutes of use, 4 minutes of "inhalation."

If you inhaled a total of 24 hours through the Lotus, you would have inhaled 1.08 µgm of Nickel. That is extrapolation.

I don't know the amount of Nickel in your area nor in Mendocino, but I would not worry (obviously I'm a big fan).
 
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artist

artist

livin'in vapooodia
thank you very much @Fenton Mewley , i feel much securer now!
i found the explanations a bit confusing on the manufacturer site , (but this is also me, as english is not my everyday languish and not always i understand how things are meant in the first reading sometimes i need to overreed a text to understand correctly) so i did not find out how it was meant,
thanks again,
'cause i really enjoy the lotus, the taste is super it heats up fast and there a no more batts to carry charge or what ever, butane is cheap loading is fast ;-)
i also like the included honest lighter! works perfect!
:-)
 
Delta3DStudios

Delta3DStudios

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
artist said:
thank you very much @Fenton Mewley , i feel much securer now!
i found the explanations a bit confusing on the manufacturer site , (but this is also me, as english is not my everyday languish and not always i understand how things are meant in the first reading sometimes i need to overreed a text to understand correctly) so i did not find out how it was meant,
thanks again,
'cause i really enjoy the lotus, the taste is super it heats up fast and there a no more batts to carry charge or what ever, butane is cheap loading is fast ;-)
i also like the included honest lighter! works perfect!
:-)
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Welcome to the club! I am happy you like the Lotus! It has been my every-day home Vape since my electronic vape (Davinici Ascent) died after 1 month (wires inside unit broke). Now I hardly use my new Ascent at all, I use the Lotus almost always!

I am sorry to hear your plate is already cracked! I was starting to suspect @FlyingLow had a defective cap, but now that we have two identical issues, with different users, and the same honest torch it sounds like something else is the culprit.

I'm glad I used the 420 sale and purchase a spare nickle plate in case mine start's to crack!
 
artist

artist

livin'in vapooodia
hi and thanks for the reply @Ratchett !
yes i also wanted to buy a extra plate as spare, but unfortunately i did not find one at a 'eu shop', and i am afraid the shippment will be more expensive than the plate, if i get it through 'Mendocino' directly, i don't know, have to check this out, maybe it is not so expensive, the german shop where i bought it, don't show them on their site, but maybe if i ask them, they can get one more when they hopefully replace mine so i can buy a spare....:-)
thanx and sunshine to all of you fc'rs :-)
 
artist

artist

livin'in vapooodia
@cityslang, could be, but until now, my honest lighter works ok, i find all the torch lighters go really hot, and for the lotus i only let it on the 'nipple' for a few seconds, it gets red hot after counting to 3 , then i just inhale a few more seconds and thats it, my plate is also not much discolored, it looks still pretty nice, except for the crack on the border of the inner (nipple) circle, it came from one moment to the other, short time before the crack, i noticed a little discoloring/blackening on that area and then it cracked a few uses after...was quite a shock...the device is nine days old and was used about maybe 60-80 times maximum, i did not count, the first 2 days i used it more because its a new toy, then the other days where about 6 times a day with 3/4 filled chamber,,,,so maybe i used it less, around 60 times? but that should not be to much for the material ,normally, i guess, with normal use, the plate should last more than a year?
:-) thanx (-:

thanx @CheeseSandwich , i will have a look, first i wait for the reply from the german shop, if they don't have spare's, this would be the solution, i don't need the allen wrench, have all sizes at home:-)
have a nice vape'd'day :-)
 
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cityslang

cityslang

A taste on the tongue
@artist

I heat mine more than you then once it glows I draw and start circling the flame around the nipple and the glow stops as it's now vaping so I can apply flame 6 to 10 seconds.

The discolouration is maybe a clue? We need someone with with better metals knowledge than me as it's been many years since I've worked metals and then it was castings or steel. I do remember steel could behave different from batch to batch.
 
artist

artist

livin'in vapooodia
thats what i meant with a few seconds,
first uses , after 3 seconds of preheating i counted until 10 ( +\-10 secs), then i counted to ten in a normal fast way (maybe 6-7 secs in real time) and i found the vapor better, i don't like to big draws, they make me cough to much, so my total timing with preheat is maybe about 10 secs and that is about the same as your timing, sorry for the confusion, when i said a few seconds, its a relatively un precise explanation i might have given before,
thanx :-)
 
cityslang

cityslang

A taste on the tongue
artist

artist

livin'in vapooodia
thanx @cityslang, saw that one in this or another thread around here, maybe it was you who has already shown it, i can order that lighter from amazon.de they ship to luxemburg, also it is very unexpensive, around 7 eu if i remember, will try that one out with the new plate when its here...:-)

hi again, had a look on the lotus homepage, for a replacement plate, here is what it would cost me as eu customer:

"Order total preview:
Subtotal:$15.00
Coupon: 420:-$2.25
Shipping:$24.00
Order total:
$36.75
". even with the coupon, still a bit pricey for this very lightweight object?
i wait on a response from 'verdampftnochmal shop' i think/guess/hope they replace my plate on warranty.
because i really don't see any user error in my case and i think/believe that also there is no user error in flyinglow's case...
:-)

Modnote: back to back posts merged.
 
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ataxian

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
cityslang

cityslang

A taste on the tongue
artist said:
hi again, had a look on the lotus homepage, for a replacement plate, here is what it would cost me as eu customer:

"Order total preview:
Subtotal:$15.00
Coupon: 420:-$2.25
Shipping:$24.00
Order total:
$36.75
". even with the coupon, still a bit pricey for this very lightweight object?
i wait on a response from 'verdampftnochmal shop' i think/guess/hope they replace my plate on warranty.
because i really don't see any user error in my case and i think/believe that also there is no user error in flyinglow's case...
:-)
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I took advantage of their 420 sale to get a spare lotus and some screens etc and while I was there I added a spare plate kit with the 15% discount it was cheaper with the shipping than a uk sourced pipe even with import taxes it will work out even but you can't get the spares in uk
 
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slowandsteady

Member
Any have experience with the Zico Regal T38 torch. Seems reasonably priced, but would like to hear any first hand experiences. Thanks!
 
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Delta3DStudios

Delta3DStudios

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
slowandsteady said:
Any have experience with the Zico Regal T38 torch. Seems reasonably priced, but would like to hear any first hand experiences. Thanks!
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If you read the past 10+ pages, I have the same one (brushed silver, the chrome finish model was a fingerprint magnet). It's also been mentioned by several others on this thread (Including under a different name 'turboflame' in the UK). It's actually less than a foot away from me on my desk as I type this response.

I almost threw my T-38 out before I found a trick to crank the adjustment knob past the + side several times to drastically increase flame size (at the low setting when I bought it no fuel came out!)

I like it more than my Sleek Honest lighter (the T-38 rarely ever sputters out mid-draw), but the results are mixed. Performs well when full, but once I get below half full, the flame will change sizes on it's own (start out normal, then the flame will cut back to half the size it was before, then after 20 seconds, go back to full flame?!?) - although, this "feature" can be handy sometimes as it seems to reduce my temperature drastically - I can get the plate up to full heat, then *sometimes* when the flame acts up, I change my heatup pattern to make full use of the lower heat ultimately extending my draw/session.

I paid $20 for it at my LHS, that was too much. If you can buy it for around $10, it's worth buying even as a backup to your honest lighter.
 
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slowandsteady

Member
Ratchett said:
If you read the past 10+ pages, I have the same one (brushed silver, the chrome finish model was a fingerprint magnet). It's also been mentioned by several others on this thread (Including under a different name 'turboflame' in the UK). It's actually less than a foot away from me on my desk as I type this response.

I almost threw my T-38 out before I found a trick to crank the adjustment knob past the + side several times to drastically increase flame size (at the low setting when I bought it no fuel came out!)

I like it more than my Sleek Honest lighter (the T-38 rarely ever sputters out mid-draw), but the results are mixed. Performs well when full, but once I get below half full, the flame will change sizes on it's own (start out normal, then the flame will cut back to half the size it was before, then after 20 seconds, go back to full flame?!?) - although, this "feature" can be handy sometimes as it seems to reduce my temperature drastically - I can get the plate up to full heat, then *sometimes* when the flame acts up, I change my heatup pattern to make full use of the lower heat ultimately extending my draw/session.

I paid $20 for it at my LHS, that was too much. If you can buy it for around $10, it's worth buying even as a backup to your honest lighter.
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Thanks much. PuffItUp (reputable sponsor here on FC) sells them for $10.
 
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