Discontinued The Liquidizer Herb2Vapor System - Safety Butane Extractor & Mini-vaporizer

[stangr]

True, I only use my EJmix as instructed

me too

 

[t-dub]

Well, I think Liquidizer was nice enough to come here and engage in a very interesting dialog. For that my first few purchases of this type of material will be from them. If I decide to pursue this type of medicine further a more economical supply may become relevant, then I will address the issue. Right now understanding the ratios of the different PEG's/PG/VG would be helpful . . .

 

[stangr]

True, I only use my EJmix as instructed. Obviously you are using way more than suggested and with concentrates that you didn't make on your own, so why would you weigh in on a product or it's price if you don't use it the right way?

Sorry if I pissed you off bro If you read some of Liquidizer's previous posts they do intend for it to be used this way, they plan to market this by itself but they're focused on the whole kit for now yada yada, they sell the ecigs/atomizers etc on the website too....

Well, I think Liquidizer was nice enough to come here and engage in a very interesting dialog. For that my first few purchases of this type of material will be from them. If I decide to pursue this type of medicine further a more economical supply may become relevant, then I will address the issue. Right now understanding the ratios of the different PEG's/PG/VG would be helpful . . .

Couldn't have said it better, I'd prefer to continue buying EJMix, but if I feel it's getting too expensive, I'll look elsewhere.

 

[Yoshimattsu]

I'm not mad brother, I just don't understand how you could feel like this is too much money to pay, where else can you get a blend of PG, PEG200, PEG300, and PEG400? Nowhere... You have nothing to compare it to, therefore no one knows what the price should or should not be.

It also seems that the only people complaining about prices are non-owners. I haven't really heard any complaints from the few of us here that own the set regarding prices...

Edit: But you are as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine and I respect you for stating it.

 

[stangr]

I'm not mad brother, I just don't understand how you could feel like this is too much money to pay, where else can you get a blend of PG, PEG200, PEG300, and PEG400? Nowhere... You have nothing to compare it to, therefore no one knows what the price should or should not be.

It also seems that the only people complaining about prices are non-owners. I haven't really heard any complaints from the few of us here that own the set regarding prices...

Edit: But you are as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine and I respect you for stating it.

Yeah sorry you can't understand it, people do know the price of PG etc.... nvm

 

[mvapes]

I got a Vision Nano Clearomizer for my EJVape batteries, it holds 1.5ML, handles the thick EJuice very well, and tastes fantastic! Still way too strong for me though But I'm workin' on it! Here's a pic!

Is that the plenty on the right there or do you have that same anal "thing" I have?

 

[Yoshimattsu]

Is that the plenty on the right there or do you have that same anal "thing" I have?

It's the Plenty, but let's call it "both".

Yeah sorry you can't understand it, people do know the price of PG etc.... nvm

Yes, I understand. What I'm saying is, you can buy sugar, flavoring, and food coloring anywhere and do your best to mix it yourself, or you can pay a premium to have the kind folks over at Kool-Aid mix it for you. You are paying extra for the consistent mixture and taste provided by the manufacturer. No one is stopping you from mixing it yourself, you just have to buy in much larger quantity, and assume the risk if you screw it up. I will gladly pay someone else to research, design, and incur all of the storage, mixing, and bottling costs.

 

[stangr]

It's the Plenty, but let's call it "both".



Yes, I understand. What I'm saying is, you can buy sugar, flavoring, and food coloring anywhere and do your best to mix it yourself, or you can pay a premium to have the kind folks over at Kool-Aid mix it for you. You are paying extra for the consistent mixture and taste provided by the manufacturer. No one is stopping you from mixing it yourself, you just have to buy in much larger quantity, and assume the risk if you screw it up. I will gladly pay someone else to research, design, and incur all of the storage, mixing, and bottling costs.

I don't think you understand, cos this is not even as complicated as making Kool-Aid, your explanation works if I was talking about sourcing some pipe and beakers and putting together the liquidizer kit.....what I"m talking about doesn't need too much R&D neither do YOU have any 'risk' to whatever I do....anyway this is too much explanation just because you think you're always right or whatever complex you got going on... so do your thing man and I'll do mine...

Also it helps to think of the world as a big place with lots of kinds of people in lots of different situations and with different kinds of wants and needs. Peace.

 

[Yoshimattsu]

Indeed, go do your thing, my apologies for getting involved.

Edited...

 

[2clicker]

Yes, I understand. What I'm saying is, you can buy sugar, flavoring, and food coloring anywhere and do your best to mix it yourself, or you can pay a premium to have the kind folks over at Kool-Aid mix it for you.

im not sure this anology works here. koolaid is not sold at a premium, but the ejmix is. i will continue to purchase it from Liquidizer until it does not make sense to anymore. eventually other companys/mixtures will be available and there will be more choices. including mixing your own. if the price is high simply because they are the only outfit selling it then they will likely be forced to sell it cheaper at some point.

i really appreciate Liquidizer bringing this mix to market. well done! and i also appreciate that they are a small company and small companies need to charge what they need to charge.

however, if using some of their product, but not all of it is frowned upon then that is lame. i dont have a use for everything they sell. i cant use butane. i do want to give them business though and will do so with ejmix only. if that is not appreciated (not saying its not!) then ill find another route.

but overall THANK YOU Liquidizer for the wonderful mix!

 

[Yoshimattsu]

Excellent points!

 

[PeteSeattle]

Getting ready to juice another run. In time for a certain famous Fest in Seattle

 

[Liquidizer]

Hi everyone! We would like to take this opportunity to thank the FC community for everything you've contributed so far. Those of you who have made Ejuice and those of you who have winterized really bring us the enormous satisfaction of knowing our product is being used correctly and improving the lives of others.

Whereas most vaporizers only require the user to insert herbs in one place and inhale from another, the scope of our kit is truly ambitious in how much we ask from our users. Many times we heard that our product is too complicated or that the herbalist/vaporizer crowd couldn't figure it out. Thank you for proving those voices wrong, and thank you for elevating vaping into an art form and lifestyle of liberation and comfort.

With your continued support we hope to provide other new and innovative products in due time and we always appreciate your feedback. We've taken it into consideration for the second edition of our instructions, which should be posted any day now. Thank you all again!

 

[Breathemetal]

Id like to see a Persei level pen from you guys that goes well with the kit

 

[Darb]

What's the max amount of flowers that can fit in the extraction tube?

 

[darkrom]

Not bad for a noob?

 

[2clicker]

Id like to see a Persei level pen from you guys that goes well with the kit

people keep mentioning the persei as a great mod to pair with this stuff and i would have to disagree. now im sure it works great... with an adapter, but most carts/attys/tanks are 510 threaded and the persei is not (still bothers me).

there is nothing special about a persei IMO. its a basic mod that can accomodate different sized cells. the 18650 being the biggest and baddest. you can find countless mods available for anywhere in the $25-200 range that will push an 18650 just like a persei... but the bonus is that almost all of them are 510 threaded. so no need for an adapter.

so its the 18650 cell and base to use it in that your after. not a specific mod. there are lots of cheaper options that are of the same quality out there.

plus i always kind of thought the persei was a little cheap looking IMO. the smoktech Bolt can be had for around $30 and is very close in design to the persei. just food for thought.

 

[darkrom]

Thought you guys would like to know about an AWESOME discovery I made at a new fairly local headshop I went to. Got tons of oil accessories, they talked about BONGS not waterpipes and had no issues talking with me about running BHO openly.

The discovery was "STOK" brand butane. Its 99.995% N-butane apparently. It says that right on the label too, so either they are waiting for a lawsuit, or this is what we are really after. It doesn't need to be refined 5x or 7x or whatever, because it starts off pure to begin with. This is what we are looking for IMO. I can't wait to try it out once I can afford some more bud.

 

[mvapes]

people keep mentioning the persei as a great mod to pair with this stuff and i would have to disagree. now im sure it works great... with an adapter, but most carts/attys/tanks are 510 threaded and the persei is not (still bothers me).

there is nothing special about a persei IMO. its a basic mod that can accomodate different sized cells. the 18650 being the biggest and baddest. you can find countless mods available for anywhere in the $25-200 range that will push an 18650 just like a persei... but the bonus is that almost all of them are 510 threaded. so no need for an adapter.

so its the 18650 cell and base to use it in that your after. not a specific mod. there are lots of cheaper options that are of the same quality out there.

plus i always kind of thought the persei was a little cheap looking IMO. the smoktech Bolt can be had for around $30 and is very close in design to the persei. just food for thought.

I just got the Persei. I like the CE4 Cart for my juices - hits hard. I also have the SR71 and what I've been doing is running batches and ONLY using the zero waste method with Etho. I saturate my flowers in that mixture, load the Herc and that hits me hard. But, with that being said - there's not much more that's interesting about the Persei.

 

[thevaf]

people keep mentioning the persei as a great mod to pair with this stuff and i would have to disagree. now im sure it works great... with an adapter, but most carts/attys/tanks are 510 threaded and the persei is not (still bothers me).

there is nothing special about a persei IMO. its a basic mod that can accomodate different sized cells. the 18650 being the biggest and baddest. you can find countless mods available for anywhere in the $25-200 range that will push an 18650 just like a persei... but the bonus is that almost all of them are 510 threaded. so no need for an adapter.

so its the 18650 cell and base to use it in that your after. not a specific mod. there are lots of cheaper options that are of the same quality out there.

plus i always kind of thought the persei was a little cheap looking IMO. the smoktech Bolt can be had for around $30 and is very close in design to the persei. just food for thought.

Persei can deliver up to 30watts, a 5A current, and 7.4v.

18650 is the biggest but not the baddest at only 3.7v.
BUT 2x18650s is the biggest and baddest...try that in your bolt. This is not practical though, so instead to get 7.4v you want 2x18350.


EDIT: Persei is not an e-cig and shouldn't be used as one primarily- if this is your primary for e-cig use, then yes you are overpaying. But if you want to vape Flowers, wax, dark hash, flowers/wax simultaneously the Persei is the only way.

 

[nopartofme]

But if you want to vape Flowers, wax, dark hash, flowers/wax simultaneously the Persei is the only way.

I think Cera could pull off all of those. Flowers and wax simultaneously is an interesting thing to do and I haven't seen anyone try it yet, but I think you could have success doing that in the Cera LL cart. It would be different than the Herc setup where the vaped oil is acting as the convective current across the flowers (I believe that's how it works)… I do want to see more people try it with both devices. I don't have wax, or I'd do it myself…

 

[thevaf]

I think Cera could pull off all of those. Flowers and wax simultaneously is an interesting thing to do and I haven't seen anyone try it yet, but I think you could have success doing that in the Cera LL cart. It would be different than the Herc setup where the vaped oil is acting as the convective current across the flowers (I believe that's how it works)… I do want to see more people try it with both devices. I don't have wax, or I'd do it myself…

you are right; the Cera can do flowers, bubble, wax, and e-juice. Its also more expensive than a Persei.

But the point I was trying to make is to address the statement by 2clicker "there is nothing special about a persei IMO." when he compares to e-cigs like the smoketech bolt.

 

[2clicker]

Persei can deliver up to 30watts, a 5A current, and 7.4v.

18650 is the biggest but not the baddest at only 3.7v.
BUT 2x18650s is the biggest and baddest...try that in your bolt. This is not practical though, so instead to get 7.4v you want 2x18350.


EDIT: Persei is not an e-cig and shouldn't be used as one primarily- if this is your primary for e-cig use, then yes you are overpaying. But if you want to vape Flowers, wax, dark hash, flowers/wax simultaneously the Persei is the only way.

you can fit two 18650s in a persei at once??? i didnt know that.

im sure there are other mods that can run the THCscientific stuff as well. with an adapter of course (lame). the persei isnt the only option.

and my statement was in the context of using the mod with the ejmix... not flowers, wax, dark hash, etc... and there are hundreds of mods that will do this at a fraction of the price.

the persei itself is a mod nothing more. if you want to vape flowers, oils, hashs, etc then use the THCscientific carts/attachments, but feel free to ise them on any mod that can push the energy they need.

 

[nopartofme]

the persei itself is a mod nothing more. if you want to vape flowers, oils, hashs, etc then use the THCscientific carts/attachments, but feel free to ise them on any mod that can push the energy they need.

You're right that the persei is a mod and is replaceable, just like carts are. But I think the Persei is indeed in a higher class than the vast majority of mods out there, alongside the Cera.

I'm pretty sure you could run a Herc on a Cera tube if you had the right kind of adapter for the cart threading, and I know that you can likewise run Cera carts on the Persei.

But from what I understand, that's about it. I've read that it's hard to find another mod capable of driving Cera cartss, and I bet it's hard to find anything else that can power a Herc. They are all demanding carts, needing high wattage capability and low resistance in the mod I believe.

As for driving two 18650s, Cera can't do that! Now I'm imagining a persei running two CEO carts

 

[walrus]

I'm really intrigued by this product and the prospect of liquidizing concentrates. Pretty close to pulling the trigger. I'd love to hear some thoughts and opinions on the Ejvape/infinite wick included in this kit rather than discussion on the persei/other units.