MinnBobber
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Can you post pics of exactly how you constructed your Volcano Solid Valve for use with Herbie?
Thanks
The Herbalizer
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Can you post pics of exactly how you constructed your Volcano Solid Valve for use with Herbie?
Thanks
Here's how I did it.
I took one of the squeeze valves and removed the rubber check valve by cutting it out, then inserted two of the rings that come with the squeeze valves and pushed them to the bottom. Finally I sanded down one ring so that it was tapered on in the inside, just enough that the solid valve can fit in about 2mm.
The two rings in the bottom prevent the top ring from getting pushed down into the squeeze valve body. The top ring will protrude a little bit but it fits inside the SV housing with room to spare. It must be pushed down to fill, as that is how the SV works. I'm working on a simple wire clip that might eliminate that problem. I use the SV mouth piece with the SV as the squeeze valve setup isn't really held on that well, strictly for filling purposes.
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TboneToker
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Here's how I did it.
I took one of the squeeze valves and removed the rubber check valve by cutting it out, then inserted two of the rings that come with the squeeze valves and pushed them to the bottom. Finally I sanded down one ring so that it was tapered on in the inside, just enough that the solid valve can fit in about 2mm.
The two rings in the bottom prevent the top ring from getting pushed down into the squeeze valve body. The top ring will protrude a little bit but it fits inside the SV housing with room to spare. It must be pushed down to fill, as that is how the SV works. I'm working on a simple wire clip that might eliminate that problem. I use the SV mouth piece with the SV as the squeeze valve setup isn't really held on that well, strictly for filling purposes.
So do you never use the volcano now that Herbie has arrived!
MinnBobber
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Thanks---pics are worth a thousand words. Nice work!!
So the stock rings are slightly too tight to fit on the SV steel core? Sanded 2 mm and it snug fits?
The Volcano SV spring loaded valve complicates things as you need to attach AND compress the valve.
I'm also going to try converting (on the Volcano itself) so it can be used with SSV whip tubing AND a way to attach a hydratube directly to the Volcano with the Solid Valve chamber....
So the stock rings are slightly too tight to fit on the SV steel core? Sanded 2 mm and it snug fits?
The Volcano SV spring loaded valve complicates things as you need to attach AND compress the valve.
I'm also going to try converting (on the Volcano itself) so it can be used with SSV whip tubing AND a way to attach a hydratube directly to the Volcano with the Solid Valve chamber....
I actually ordered the solid valve specifically for my Herbalizer. I don't have a Volcano and I have never used one before! My brother had a Herbalizer before me and I loved his so much when I used it that I had to get my own, (talk about diving head first into vapes).
No problem
The stock ring is just slightly too tight so sanding a long taper makes for a nice fit and easy removal. The 2mm is about how deep the SV seats into the ring, not very far at all.
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John Lewus
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My volcano bags often leak out the plastic piece. I determined that the plastic piece was just not molded right and got a free replacement from SV. However the new ones leaks but noticeably less. It is annoying to say the least and the couple of times I replaced them they leaked when filling. I don't know what I am doing wrong.
Do you guys hold the bag down to depress the plunger or use the SV bowl to hold the herb? I am not sure which one I like better.
I am going to test for leaks again. Its been awhile since I blew a bag.
EDIT: It leaked a little bit on me even manually holding it down on the bowl. This is why I don't use this bag setup very much.
Do you guys hold the bag down to depress the plunger or use the SV bowl to hold the herb? I am not sure which one I like better.
I am going to test for leaks again. Its been awhile since I blew a bag.
EDIT: It leaked a little bit on me even manually holding it down on the bowl. This is why I don't use this bag setup very much.
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Smelly Dog
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This is why I made my adapter piece. I didn't even bother trying it until I found a way to make a seal between the solid valve stem and the herb chamber. I was kinda bummed out that it wasn't a straight fit but where's the fun in that? If I can work up the time I'll lathe a piece for a shorter vapour path.
Smelly Dog
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I received @Oregonglassblower Mikes pieces, slipped the SSV tubing right over and gave it all a try. Works perfectly! 
Smelly Dog
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This is what I've been rolling with these few days(Pics on bottom), I've mostly been using the VapCap, the Herbie is used right before bed. The Herbie through a bubbler is the only way I like to use the Herbie, I'm not to sold on bags or whips.
I'm with you on the bubbler. I made mine the week before my Herbie even arrived and was using it with my brother's Herbie! I can load mine with crushed ice and run it dry for some really cool misty hits that rise up out of the ice pack, (I really should take a video of this). It eventually melts as the night goes on, turning into a slushy bubbler.
The bags have always been the best for me as it allows me to take as little or as much as I need with effectively zero draw resistance. The bags will also hook up to my bubbler which offers the best of both worlds.
I found the whip to be fairly restrictive and it never suited my style of vaping. I tend to multitask while I vape so I'll finish a bag in 5 mins while sipping on it. When I do that with the whip the bowl cools off too much in between hits and ultimately the flavour gets cooked prematurely.
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I just roasted a full load at 430*C with two bags thanks to the increased flow of the solid valve. The stock Herbie bag is quite restrictive if you look through from the bag side when it's on the stem. The rubber check valve partially blocks the air path and spoils the laminar flow. The SV and adapter allow the vapour to diffuse immediately making it denser while improving flow. The SV will out flow the whatever Herbie can throw at it so I see this as a wide open setup. It sure punched me in the face when I got off work.
YungLeaner
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http://vapenow.com/partsaccessories...0.html?zenid=fdf3f1b8a0826792d157de4ded685148
They're kind of overpriced here, and I don't know if the Zephyr company exists anymore. But I have found the Zephyr Ion bag valves to be my favorite (only can compare to EQ and Volcano Easy Valve) and they actually are a perfect fit with no work required on top of the Herbalizer bowl. They work with a simply "slide to the side" mechanism, and the intake hole for bags slides neatly over the Herbalizer bowl.
I've never had a use for bags myself, but I'm a china glass cloud chaser
I highly recommend the Ion bag valves to those who like that sort of thing however
They're kind of overpriced here, and I don't know if the Zephyr company exists anymore. But I have found the Zephyr Ion bag valves to be my favorite (only can compare to EQ and Volcano Easy Valve) and they actually are a perfect fit with no work required on top of the Herbalizer bowl. They work with a simply "slide to the side" mechanism, and the intake hole for bags slides neatly over the Herbalizer bowl.
I've never had a use for bags myself, but I'm a china glass cloud chaser
I highly recommend the Ion bag valves to those who like that sort of thing however
IAmKrazy2
Darth Vapor
http://vapenow.com/partsaccessories...0.html?zenid=fdf3f1b8a0826792d157de4ded685148
They're kind of overpriced here, and I don't know if the Zephyr company exists anymore. But I have found the Zephyr Ion bag valves to be my favorite (only can compare to EQ and Volcano Easy Valve) and they actually are a perfect fit with no work required on top of the Herbalizer bowl. They work with a simply "slide to the side" mechanism, and the intake hole for bags slides neatly over the Herbalizer bowl.
I've never had a use for bags myself, but I'm a china glass cloud chaser
I highly recommend the Ion bag valves to those who like that sort of thing however
Just a note, in my experience they leak a ton from the bottom. Haven't tried since i first got Herbie but it was not a winner for me.
YungLeaner
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Really? I had a better experience but I may have modded it somehow. I think I might have cut a small amount of tubing to go over the bowl and into the bag. IDK. bags suck. lol
Hi guys and girls!
Hope you all are enyoying the day.
I live in Asia - Thailand and here we have 220v..I wonder if there is any people here that can convince me of buying a Herbie and which stepdownconverter you use.
Can i also ask what the Minimun watt draw --->Max watt draw is...and how many Amps it's rated.I fully understand that if i would go a haead and buy one the warranty is void.
Thank you kindly for reading and (hopefully)some nice answers..Have a good day all Forum members.
//AMiA in Thailand
Hope you all are enyoying the day.
I live in Asia - Thailand and here we have 220v..I wonder if there is any people here that can convince me of buying a Herbie and which stepdownconverter you use.
Can i also ask what the Minimun watt draw --->Max watt draw is...and how many Amps it's rated.I fully understand that if i would go a haead and buy one the warranty is void.
Thank you kindly for reading and (hopefully)some nice answers..Have a good day all Forum members.
//AMiA in Thailand
YungLeaner
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Max watt draw is 300W. Not sure about amperage or minimum watt draw. I know that some people have had problems with the warranty service when using overseas. But assuming that you can use it fairly safely, the Herbalizer is a great investment, and really worthwhile.
YL,thanks for the replye my friend.If anyone have any moore info regarding my above Q:s,don't hesitate to replye.Thanks everyone.
MinnBobber
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I have a Herbie and love it.
I recall that the bigger problem with power conversion in other countries was the Hz difference.
The stepdown from 220 V to 115 V was easy BUT US power frequency is 60 Hz.
what Hz is Thailand's power grid?
Herbalizer said that operating at a different Hz messed it up.....
36crazyvapors
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Hey anyone else have to max this puppy out for full extracted AVB? I usually vape at lower temps but I can't seem to get the bud to vape completely. Lately I've been vaping at 445 with the fan assist. Super powerful hits, but I've read vaping at these temps isn't really that great for you. Anyone else have this experience? I'm curious to know what the bud temps are within the bowl itself...maybe they're not getting heated up as much as we think? Just seems weird to me.
At 445 you should be nearly burning the weed and the ABV should be dark dark brown. I'm not sure what you mean by "vape completely"? I stop vaping when the taste diminishes and the vapour production drops off. My ABV is a medium dark brown colour by the end at 430°F.
If you're using your fan assist you should be getting the bud fully up to temp. The Herbie has amazing temperature control with very little over or under shooting.
36crazyvapors
Active Member
What I mean is, when I use something like my crafty for instance @ 385 the AVB has almost coffee color maybe a tinge darker. For me to achieve that same result with the Herbie it seems like I have to use the entire temperature range. If I vape @ 385 on the Herbie for a bunch of hits the AVB won't be that dark at all and still looks vapable. If I stay at that number the vapor production thins out, so I began going further and further out in the range. Seems like in order to keep extracting from your material you need to keep increasing the temps...and in order to get just about everything out of it you need to go to the end of that spectrum. What amazes me though is even at these temps the hit is still very tolerable and doesn't really seem like it's that high in all actuality. I wouldn't dare bring my Crafty/Mighty up that high lol!
All I'm getting at is in order to fully vape your material you need to really turn the temps up on the Herbalizer. Even 410 to me is high. I'm used to doing 385 as my set temp on my Cano, and Crafty/Mighty and not having to go any higher than that. I thought once you pass the 385 threshold you start losing the benefits of vaping? Just kinda baffled as to why I need to go over 400 degree to fully vape my stuff with the Herbie, but the Crafty doesn't need to go over 380 really.
When I tried out the original beta Herbie, it ran a lot hotter than the production model and I liked it that way better to be honest. I got denser rips than I get from corresponding temperatures with the prodo Herbie. Josh told me that he turned down the heat ceiling by about 50°F since he was concerned with "partial combustion". I did not agree with his decision and debated him a bit on the topic, but he was adamant that the lower temps were a good design change.
The max temp of the beta Herbie gave extremely dense vapor, but I never saw anything close to combustion in the ABV. Today's models just can't replicate that unfortunately.
little maggie
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What model water tool is this? It's lovely.I received @Oregonglassblower Mikes pieces, slipped the SSV tubing right over and gave it all a try. Works perfectly!