The Herbalizer

pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
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Hmmm, posting links appears to be forbidden.

I googled "Silver Surfer vaporizer", then looked on one of the retail sites for the tubing under their heading "vaporizer parts". I'm not making a recommendation (that's forbidden too), but since you asked, the site had something to do with Vapor and Nation.

I have no idea why you think links are forbidden. FC is riddled with links. Why would we forbid a link to one of our sponsors? It's even more puzzling that you say recommendations are forbidden too. This would be a pretty lousy forum if we didn't allow recommendations.

One of us is terribly confused. I hope it's not me. :hmm:
 

Zanin

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What quality bud you use that you can be done so quick? I get thick clouds for several minutes so I can't finish when I'm in a hurry. Maybe it's cuz my space case screens are clogged and the kief stays in the bud...
 

Tex

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Thanks for sharing, I'd love to hear how you make your bags! I've been debating trying the Volcano valves as mentioned earlier in the thread but I'd prefer to get by with the Herbalizer valves & turkey bags if I can, would love to hear any tips you have.

@Fine Grind

I just sat down and typed all the steps, then read through them and realized pictures would really, really help. I should have time later today or this week.
 

Skeena

Standing stone faced like a statue.
Well since i was in a hurry, I only filled up 2 bags, one at 180 then 200. my session is usually a few loads from 180-200-220 with the bags. Just hoover them down and I'm out!

ALso I only do 3 bags because I like my abv to be half ass potent for baking.
 

Mrmrmrmr

Well-Known Member
Hey guys how is everyone ,
Spent yesterday with family having one of several Christmases ( say that three times fast lol)
Later that night I was extremely tired and decided the only option was Herbie. Pulled her out ,heated up to 430 .small pack through the EFS was amazing. Full flavor , full effect .cranked up to 440 to get a good nights sleep. There really is nothing like the herbalizer. I have had several thoughts about selling it...which never came to fruitation. It's not the price it's the device itself. Looks like Herbie is calling me now:luv:
Time to blow some steam off....:D
 

Tex

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@Fine Grind

Ok, I'm back with pictures for the DIY turkey bags! This is going to be a long one, so bear with me.

**Note, it really helps to have an extra set of hands.


1. Lay the turkey bag flat on the table. The tail end of the bag is tucked under in the picture so the whole bag would fit on the table.
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2. Obviously the bag has a pre-sealed end, and an open end. We will be sealing the open end first.Tear off a piece of clear packing tape that is about 2 inches longer than the width of the bag at the open end. You want the tape a little longer so you can have about an inch of excess on each side. You can trim it when you are done, or leave it. Lay the tape on the table, sticky side up. Initially, I was worried that the tape might be unsafe, but it really does not have any exposure to the vapor. There haven't been any unpleasant or strange smells/tastes and it hasn't bothered me, my girlfriend and the 3 or 4 of my friends that also vape with me.
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3. Have your friend hold the edges of the tape on the table, while you carefully position the bag on the tape, covering about half of the sticky surface of the tape with the bag. Try to avoid getting any wrinkles in the bag where it contacts the tape. I usually pull the bag a little so it is taut, then center it on the tape and place it on the tape leaving about an inch of tape left on each side.
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4. With your helper, Carefully fold the tape over and seal the bag completely. Once the tape is folded over, run your fingers down the seam and make sure the tape has adhered to the bag completely. If you see any air bubbles, try to work them out. Sometimes I have a few tiny bubbles/wrinkles, but they never leak.
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5. So, now we have a sealed bag that just needs a valve. I found that trying to wrap all that excess material around the valve and seal it was a PITA. My solution is to put the valve in the corner of the bag instead. So, turn the bag around so you are holding the pre-sealed end. Pick a corner, and grab your scissors. In this picture, I outlined the area to be cut out in blue. You want to get close to the seal, but not too close! Try to leave about 1/8" or so.
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6. Now it's time for the important cut. You need to cut the corner of the bag off so you can put the valve in. The goal here is to cut as small a hole as possible. As long as you can get the "pronged" part of the valve assembly inside the hole, you're good to go. In this picture I've colored in the approximate area I cut off each time I make a bag. Ruler for reference. About an inch each way.
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Both pieces cut off:
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7. Now we need to put the "pronged" part inside the bag. In the first picture you can see the 3 pieces of the valve: the mouthpiece, the "collar", and the "pronged" part.
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In the bag:
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Another view:
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8. Now, hold the bag as seen below. Make sure you have enough material sticking past the "pronged" part. You'll see why in step 10.
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9. Slide the "collar" over the "pronged" part.
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10. Hold the collar in your right hand between your thumb and forefinger, and pull on the bag material with your left hand (seen below). You don't need to pull hard, just a little to make sure the collar/pronged part are seated.
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11. Fold the remaining material down over the collar.
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Another view:
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12. Slide the mouthpiece over the collar and press everything in firmly. And now, take the time to pull all the air out of your bag. If done properly, you can pull all the air out and eventually try to draw and there will be absolutely no air. Now you have a perfectly sealed, leak free bag. Enjoy!
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Tex

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@lazylightning

I thought about using an impulse sealer too. I never ordered one because the tape works so well. My first ever turkey bags were made by heating a piece of aluminum flat bar with a mapp gas torch and pressing it on the bag to seal it. It worked, but was very tedious and time consuming, and ultimately they would leak after a few uses. An impulse sealer may work great. If you try one, let me know how it works out.
 

John Lewus

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Tex

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If I could fit herbie and my glass in that 1400, I'd buy one now. I just feel like I need a little more space. I actually just ordered a 1750 yesterday, but I'll be using it for something else. They are awesome cases!
 

Tex

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@wax

Yes you can! Pelican even makes a TSA approved lock that you can put on the case while you travel and the TSA won't cut them because they can open them, check your items and lock the case again. Plenty of other locks fit too.
 
Tex,

John Lewus

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I think I'd also want a slightly bigger Pelican to hold a hydratube with my herbie but for 50 dollars this will be perfect enough .
 
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Mrmrmrmr

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For anyone who wants a quick easy way to use a hydratube/wt on top of Herbie.
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Small piece of ssv tubing + 14/18mm adapter. Received a classic evolver earlier this week. Now my favorite way to get herbalized. A couple scoops of Kief put me in a coma :o:freak:
 

Green_Foiler

New Member
Hello Herbie community,
I'm getting ready to order my herbalizer tomorrow with the holiday sale there doing!!! I have been looking at this vape forever now.
As a about to be new Herbie owner I wanted to ask the community if they have any advice for a newbie. I am reading as much of this thread as there is some great information here, and good advice already being shared.
I have the water tool(HT) for my pinnacle pro that has a 14mm female end so I was wanting to get a stem like adapter to put in the whip so I can use the HT with the herbalizer. I saw virtualpurple posting pictures of a wooden stem that goes in the whip and can be used with 14mm HT. Was wanting to see if anyone knew if this stem would work that way or if it is in fact the one virtualpurple did post about on page 176.
Here is the product from ed tnt.
http://shop.edstnt.com/Ascent-Cocobolo-14mm-Vapor-Stem-Ascent-Cocobolo-14mm-Vapor-Stem.htm

Also have most of you found that the whip is giving off a strange tangy taste and you find your wanting a new tubing to replace the stock one? If so what is the best place to buy that. Also is there tubing that is the same diameter so I can still use the wooden stem adapter for my HT.
One last question. I was skeptical when I was thinking about buy my pinnacle pro vape(my first vape). Mainly because I have a high tolerance, so I was worried it wouldn't hit hard enough for me. I was very satisfied with how well it performs. So I just wanted to know for you high tolerance folks, which I imagine most of you are. Does the herbie give that knock you on you ass feeling? Seems you can do the lower temps to if you are looking for a lighter session.
Any advice or tips would be greatly Appriciated!
I can't wait to get my herbalizer and start vaping like a boss!
Thanks and hope everyone had a great holidays so far!
 
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Tex

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@Green_Foiler

I can't comment on the wooden fitting for the whip because I don't yet have a HT added to my collection....hopefully soon.

As far as the whip goes, I can't say I've noticed any strange tastes. Definitely nothing "tangy". I used my whip by itself for awhile, but now use it primarily with my bong. It works great. The ONLY complaint I have about the whip is that the exterior seems to attract dust/dirt/etc and it gets sticky. I wipe it down with ISO every now and then.

I have a high tolerance as well, and the Herbie never fails to impress. I can achieve any high I want. Sometimes I vape before going for my morning run. I like to set my Herbie at 377 and run it through the bong for some nice refreshing vapor. It helps wake me up, and helps me really enjoy my run.

I tend to favor the higher temps more than the lower temps for most of my daily sessions. When I use the whip/bong, I start around 390 and take several hits to get it going, then bump up to 400 for several hits, then 410, then 420 or 425 to finish the bowl out. Some bud will produce more vapor, and some will produce less. Make sure your bud is properly dried before grinding it up. Some members have had different experiences with grind, but I prefer a fine grind over a coarse grind. Initially, I was using a Piranha 4 piece grinder and was grinding upside down to get the fine grind I needed. I just switched to a Santa Cruz Shredder (3 piece small) and all I can say is WOW. Big improvement. I have some pictures of my grind that I have been meaning to post. I'll do that soon. When you load your bowl, load it up to the bottom of the flared portion. Usually about 0.2 g for me.

The Herbie can DEFINITELY knock you on your ass. Try max temp (445) and see how you feel after several hits. I'm always impressed!

Good luck, and let us know how your first session goes when you get your unit!!
 
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Vicki

Herbal Alchemist
I think my Herbie might be running a little cool. :(

I've tried 3 different strains in my Herbie, all at max temp, 445F. I cleaned the bowl and screens to like new and changed the tubing to brand new. My glass is always clean. No matter what I have done, I cannot get the clouds I used to from the same strains I could before, not even with bubble hash. I am at a loss. I just had a session with my Solo and was blowing huge clouds with the same strain I used in the Herbie.
 
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lazylathe

Almost there...
I think my Herbie might be running a little cool. :(

I've tried 3 different strains in my Herbie, all at max temp, 445F. I cleaned the bowl and screens to like new and changed the tubing to brand new. My glass is always clean. No matter what I have done, I cannot get the clouds I used to from the same strains I could before, not even with bubble hash. I am at a loss. I just had a session with my Solo and was blowing huge clouds with the same strain I used in the Herbie.

Have you tried the @Engineer tip with your Herbie?
Grind up some material and fill the bowl half full.
Turn on Herbie and set temp to MAX.
When temp is reached, place bowl on Herbie and turn on the fan
Allow the timer to stop, remove bowl and shake.
Replace and repeat again.
Inspect ABV on white paper, it should be dark brown.

Thread here with pics:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-herbalizer.9116/page-183#post-672678

Let us know the results!
 
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Vicki

Herbal Alchemist
Have you tried the @Engineer tip with your Herbie?
Grind up some material and fill the bowl half full.
Turn on Herbie and set temp to MAX.
When temp is reached, place bowl on Herbie and turn on the fan
Allow the timer to stop, remove bowl and shake.
Replace and repeat again.
Inspect ABV on white paper, it should be dark brown.

Thread here with pics:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-herbalizer.9116/page-183#post-672678

Let us know the results!

I just finished the experiment, and my ABV is dark. However, there was never any vapor produced. I should mention that I don't feel medicated either.

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Vicki,

John Lewus

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It would be nice if there was an easy way to know if our Herbies were properly calibrated. When I get home in a couple of days I am going to put an empty magnetic bowl and crank the herbalizer up to 445 and turn on the fan. Ill stick my thermapen down the hole and to get the tip just inside the middle part of the bowl and wait for the temp to get to a steady state and then record it. I think this would be a fairly accurate way to do this but not sure. I would expect that the temp should get to around 445 or maybe a bit less at that measuring point.
 

Vitolo

Vaporist
@Vicki ... there is a reported difference among Herby users, after removing, and fully cleaning the top screen.
Give this a try.
 
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