Hello all,
So far I have a lot of mixed feelings with this unit. On one hand we have the precise temp settings, with an extremely fast heat up time, but on the other hand the vapor production is awful.
After I got it I opened it up and turned it on I noticed there was a smell like what normally is present in new products, so I turned it to max temp, turned the fan on andlet it burn off a little bit. I did this until the cooling fan turned on (whcih wasn't too long after). I noticed there was no plastic sheet that covered the buttons and screen like I see on pictures in this thread. My buttons feel very cheap, and the fan button wiggles around as well. Does anyone else have this issue?
I packed a bowl and hooked it up to a few glass pieces. I was pretty taken back by the very little vapor production in the pieces, if any. I tried it at 290 and noticed a great taste, then went up to 350 to see if it would produce more, but it didn't... It still tasted pretty good. Back to 290 and the taste was there, but i felt that I was tasting something else as well.
I then blew a bag at 350, and it was decent vapor. I noticed that it was really harsh the last 2 hits, does anyone else find the first hits were smooth, but the last hits were harsh? I also noticed this unique taste which I believe was coming from the mouthpiece of the bag. I also noticed a taste with the whip.
There still seems to be a little smell, and harshness when I go to higher temps, but after a couple of days the harshness has gone away, which means there was most liekly stuff that needed to be burned off, and I'm wondering why there was no mention of this? Granted it could have been because I packed a LOT of bud in the chamber the first couple of times, but the harshness was unreal. I coughed extremely hard a few times, enough to pop something in my back. I am medicating for my back and neck due to being rear ended in a car accident, which left me with 2 herniated and 2 buldging discs in my neck. I am not here to be hacking and coughing while trying to medicate and hurt myself. This turned me off greatly.
I also saw a user post above about the concerns in the airpath. This also concerns me because of what I was feeling/smelling the first few sessions.
Today everything seems to be tasting great, and isn't really harsh at all, but I have been packing smaller bowls now. Either way, the vapor production is what I am extremely sad about. I would like to see some other people's bags, because I am using some great stuff, and my bags are see-through. It's sad that I spent 730$ on a vape that produces ridculously thin vapor. Support told me that my screens might be clogged, but how can they be clogged when the first use produced little vapor? I tried packing in all sorts of ways and the vapor just isn't good. I don't know what temps you guys use, but I tried all sorts of temps as well, and unless I'm blowing bags at 445 rightt away I'm not getting much at all. One of the reasons I got this vape was because it looked like it could produce serious vapor, but so far I am very taken back and not happy with the production at all. I also noticed the fan sometimes shuts off really early, which people claim is due to it being stuck. A little clogging shouldn't affect a vape so much, especially at this high price point.
I also am curious about new whips? I saw some posts awhile back which I cannot find, where people were posting better whips for sale. So far I am using the bags because I don't like the taste of the whip. So I would appreciate any advice towards that.
I also have a complaint about the bag mouthpiece, and how hot it gets. The mouthpiece gets very hot, and one time I put al ittle oil on a pad with some bud, went up to 445, and after blowing up the bag (with not much vapor) I burnt my lips on the bag mouthpece... Seriously...... Why does it get this hot? Medical patients aren't going to be happy with that, granted I did a bag today at 445 and didn't get burnt... I feel sometimes the bowl does get very very hot, even at low temps.
I also am very annoyed that the bowl can loosen up/if your bowl isn't tight enough and you turn the heat up/the fan on, bud will blow all over the place/out of your bowl. This happened 3-4 times to me already in a 3 day period. One time I also saw vapor leaking out of the side of my bowl when the bowl wasn't closed fullly....
I do love how fast it heats up, and I do love the precise temp controls, and the taste now is fantastic but there are a few things I'm just upset with. Spending top dollar and being upset from the start isn't a good outlook. My first vape was an Extreme V3 about 5 years ago now, I have also had a Supreme, OG Vapor Genie, and a VHW so I'm not new to vapes.
Are there any tips or tricks to getting good amounts of vapor? Could there be something wrong with my unit? The ABV looks good and evenly vaped, and the effects are fanstic and feels clean, but the vapor output is ;(. Yesterday the unit started making this clicking noise whenever I would start it up, whenever I would increase temp, and sometimes randomly. Then I noticed a similar noise to the video posted a couple pages back with a loud buzzing noise with the cooling fan. It seems to have stopped now. However yesterday my cooling fan was on for over 10 minutes (enough for the screen saver to come on). I had to close the lid and shut the unit off for the fan to go off, so I'm not sure how long it would have been on. I did not have the unit running hot at all, and any other time I went up to a higher temp the cooling fan would shut off within a minute or so (I also drop the temp down to 290 as per Engineer's suggestion when the cooling fan turns on). I'm not sure if this is normal or what, but Herbalizer support said nothing was wrong with it and that it stays on for as long as it's needed.....
It also annoys me that we basically are stuck with this vape if we don't like it. No returns, and if we sell it there is no warranty exchange? That's a bit ridiculous IMO, and I am upset that I feel trapped like that as well.
I really want to love this vape, and I really want to give it a chance, so I appreciate any input or advice that will make me a happy camper. I just spent a lot of money, hoping this was going to be the ultimate vape that everyone says it would be, and I'm not feeling the same way. I just feel for the price it should be producing amazing clouds, but it isn't. I am very thankful for the heatup time though!
Thanks