Discontinued The Hammer Vaporizer

[Egzoset]

Salutations VaporOnly,

Has this term X-Factor been defined someplace?

I don't know about definitions but i'm aware that it must have been experienced before, so i'd simply recommend following the white rabit in order to discover the rest of this story!... Don't confuse your colours, blue would be the flame, euh...

Is it not actually about a synergy of compounds when released quickly enough??

 

[OF]

has this term x-factor been defined someplace?

As I understand it, the modern use of the term was stolen from science, algebra specifically, for 'x, the unknown'. It is at the focus of 'the game of algebra' where we pretend we know the answer, assign it a name without giving the value, then use that name instead of a specific number to find the formula that will tell us what the number really is. A powerful tool for sure.

How that relates to modern use, I've no firm idea...... FWIW, lots of things don't mean what they really mean anymore, look up 'decimate' sometime..... The Romans, who invented the term, had an entirely different meaning. Interesting insights there, for those curious about such things:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimation_(Roman_army)
http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/decimate.aspx

OF

 

[satyrday]

has this term x-factor been defined someplace? I think I know what it means but I just want to be sure.

When OO uses it, and I think he has popularized the term around here, he is referring to that ineffable quality of instantaneous and deep head change. One minute thinking about the stack of bills, the next ...e.g. post-Hammer... thinking about the number of angels dancing on the head of a pin (and if you look close enough you can see their cute expressions - some terrifying!).

 

[OO]

If there's any question, you can always use the search bar at the top, and search for "x-factor" posted by OO. That should help you find how I've talked about it.

 

[nopartofme]

When OO uses it, and I think he has popularized the term around here, […]

I think this is funny, the only times I've heard the term 'x-factor' around here have been from you and OO.

 

[satyrday]

I think this is funny, the only times I've heard the term 'x-factor' around here have been from you and OO.

That could be - OO must be a big influence on me in that way. Spread the word. Need more x-factor!

 

[Egzoset]

Euh...

Count me in!!

...as soon as i know more about what that is...

 

[TheDudeNextDoor]

I cannot properly express how much I love having a hands-free custom stem and 14mm Gong. I love the bowl on the custom stem. It's wider and deeper, and the screen fits in there perfectly rather than having to shape it like for the original stems (that was the biggest design flaw for me). It has taken a vape that I already liked and made it one I love. It's not my primary vape, but I always keep it handy and use it much more than I did before with the new stems. Plus with the Gong, I get huge rips using a tube. And the custom stem is gorgeous! Thanks for the 4.20 sale!

 

[OO]

These pictures suck, deal with it.

The fix to it was simple adjustment of the mounting screws, they're very easy to adjust due to the simple, yet prudent design of the internals.

That being said, I really like the quality of this vape, especially since the exterior screws are the domed type which are much harder to strip, and the ones on the internal are stainless which is also very tough.

Salutations torch flame,

The airpath is a simple clamped round tube. the torch hits the part where the pressure was applied.

This design allows the flame to travel over the airpath without ever entering it.

I'm really satisfied with this vape. I very much like the practicality of the design, as well as the customization potential. Especially the lock on kit, which I really enjoy using with the wooden tubes, it really makes the vape special. I can't wait to try the GonG.

Thanks for making it.

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations OO,

This design allows the flame to travel over the airpath without ever entering it.

Thank you for providing such visuals hints. This should clear the matter about having completely seperated paths, though i won't insist since potential for integrated moisturization appeared to plummet finally and a GonG adapter will translate as a water accessory anyway.

 

[OF]

i won't insist since potential for integrated moisturization appeared to plummet finally

I don't agree, I think it's been proven possible (if not overly practical), just not the way you suggested.

The TV unit does the job it was intended to do, even when attached to the Hammer stem. The potential is definitely there. You just need to work with the physics, not fight it.

OF

 

[Head Tools]

I cannot properly express how much I love having a hands-free custom stem and 14mm Gong. I love the bowl on the custom stem. It's wider and deeper, and the screen fits in there perfectly rather than having to shape it like for the original stems (that was the biggest design flaw for me). It has taken a vape that I already liked and made it one I love. It's not my primary vape, but I always keep it handy and use it much more than I did before with the new stems. Plus with the Gong, I get huge rips using a tube. And the custom stem is gorgeous! Thanks for the 4.20 sale!

Glad you are digging them....the screens are definitely much easier to replace in the GonG and the custom stems. They have been going fast, so I made a bunch of new ones... should have some pics up later this week.

NO MORE wispy HITS

 

[Tweek]

I'm going to have to grab me one of these custom lock on stems....was just thinking the other day, how handy the lock on feature would be when I am outdoors.

 

[TheDudeNextDoor]

Do it when the new ones go up Tweek. I promise you will not regret it.

<--- Bowling with Head Tools

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations OF,

I don't agree...

That gives me some hope but i'll wait to see the manufacturer's announcement when a commerically-available INLET Moisturizer is finally ready to hit the market. For that alone i may want to try it but if it's going to take 2 former NASA engineers to get there then the bills will sky-rocket, i imagine, right?... And this would be contrary to the KISS principle applied here anyway. So, please let me know if/when the dream comes true!

Just in case. An OUTLET moisturizer might be better than nothing, we'll see how it differs i hope!

 

[OF]

That gives me some hope but i'll wait to see the manufacturer's announcement when a commerically-available INLET Moisturizer is finally ready to hit the market. For that alone i may want to try it but if it's going to take 2 former NASA engineers to get there then the bills will sky-rocket, i imagine, right?

I'm sorry it gives you hope. I thought I was pretty clear why I don't think that's possible, or even a good idea if it was compared to adding it after heating and extraction. I don't think it'll take fancy designs or heavy engineering as much as a change in the laws of Physics and Chemistry. Right now, that's the problem I see. If you're waiting on buying one until the maker offers this option, you can, I think, safely spend your money elsewhere.....you won't need it here.

It is, however, proven somewhat practical in the way I suggest, FWIW. Your call.

OF

 

[Egzoset]

Hi again OF,

My call is simple: i'll wait to see if it's going to work conveniently like a VG but without the negative aspects of a VG...

 

[Tweek]

Egzoset, I think the best way to get the moisture you are looking for, is to take the Hammer into a steam room.

 

[satyrday]

Egzoset, I think the best way to get the moisture you are looking for, is to take the Hammer into a steam room.

Snorkeling wit' da Hammer.

 

[sadf]

Egzoset, I think the best way to get the moisture you are looking for, is to take the Hammer into a steam room.

I was going to tell him that even if he somehow rigged up a system to do what he (Thinks he) wants he'd just burn the shit out of his mouth and throat with steam, but that sounds like an easier path.

 

[OO]

I'm sorry it gives you hope. I thought I was pretty clear why I don't think that's possible, or even a good idea if it was compared to adding it after heating and extraction. I don't think it'll take fancy designs or heavy engineering as much as a change in the laws of Physics and Chemistry. Right now, that's the problem I see. If you're waiting on buying one until the maker offers this option, you can, I think, safely spend your money elsewhere.....you won't need it here.

It is, however, proven somewhat practical in the way I suggest, FWIW. Your call.

OF

I'd much prefer an inlet moisturizer, but it may not be practical.
There's no law of physics or chemistry that I'm aware of that would exclude the possibility, and I think it would be much preferable to post element humidification where actives may be lost.

That being said there is more than one way to skin a cat, and by assuming it can't be done, you're only limiting yourself. Creativity could make it easily achievable in my mind, I mean all you need is a little capillary action.

The only worry is the increased heat capacity of steam and the much larger enthalpy of vaporization. That being said, it's not like the air need be completely water saturated, but enough to counter the effects of heating. I think it's doable.

 

[OF]

I'd much prefer an inlet moisturizer, but it may not be practical.
There's no law of physics or chemistry that I'm aware of that would exclude the possibility, and I think it would be much preferable to post element humidification where actives may be lost.

That being said there is more than one way to skin a cat, and by assuming it can't be done, you're only limiting yourself.

I understand guys want it the way they think it should work. But I don't think it's realistic.

I've written a lot about why, it has to do with the very real rules of 'holding capacity'. Drawing room temperature air in is going to evaporate very little water since evaporative cooling will be working against you. You can add at most a trivial amount of water unless you're in 10% RH to start with, and even then it's going to be very very limited since only a very small amount of the room temperature air contacts the wicks (this is why a sling psycrometer has a sling). When the temperature difference is small, evaporation is minimal, you need a lot of volume of air to evaporate the water.....which means lots of dillution..... Adding moisture on the output gives you a leg up.

This is easy to test. Do what I did, weigh it before and after? I got modest, but consistent weight loss on the hot side, none I could detect when on the input side. No need to guess here, really. It's a simple experiment and the results IMO make sense. But you should try it I think?

OF

 

[OO]

I understand guys want it the way they think it should work. But I don't think it's realistic.

I've written a lot about why, it has to do with the very real rules of 'holding capacity'. Drawing room temperature air in is going to evaporate very little water since evaporative cooling will be working against you. You can add at most a trivial amount of water unless you're in 10% RH to start with, and even then it's going to be very very limited since only a very small amount of the room temperature air contacts the wicks (this is why a sling psycrometer has a sling). When the temperature difference is small, evaporation is minimal, you need a lot of volume of air to evaporate the water.....which means lots of dillution..... Adding moisture on the output gives you a leg up.

This is easy to test. Do what I did, weigh it before and after? I got modest, but consistent weight loss on the hot side, none I could detect when on the input side. No need to guess here, really. It's a simple experiment and the results IMO make sense. But you should try it I think?

OF

In my plan, water would be evaporated not by ambient air passing over it, but by conduction from the heat exchanger. Is there any reason why this method would not work?

Once the heated water vapor joins ambient air, the water vapor will still hopefully be heated well above the ambient temp, and will hopefully transfer much heat to the air as well, so it would be a hybrid of water vapor and air that would be transferring heat to the material. Steam vaporization essentially.

I don't see any reason this shouldn't work, unless I'm missing something critical.

 

[OF]

Am I following right? You're talking about two heat exchangers, one basically a steam generator?

Would this be before or after the herb?

I guess that's possible, but why? I'd think it's going to be expensive, and complex rather than simply doing it like TV did, but what do I know?

Perhaps we can modify the fuel injection control from a new BMW? Inject water vapor based on what he downstream sensor tells the controller is happening? Of course you'll have to pay for an inspection and test to register it every two years......

By all means try it, then we'll all know.

OF

 

[OO]

Am I following right? You're talking about two heat exchangers, one basically a steam generator?

Would this be before or after the herb?

I guess that's possible, but why? I'd think it's going to be expensive, and complex rather than simply doing it like TV did, but what do I know?

Perhaps we can modify the fuel injection control from a new BMW? Inject water vapor based on what he downstream sensor tells the controller is happening? Of course you'll have to pay for an inspection and test to register it every two years......

By all means try it, then we'll all know.

OF

Water injection engines exist, there are 6 stroke engines. They work roughly off of that principle, they inject water droplets to capture the heat of the engine and use it for an additional power stroke. They don't need radiators because of all the heat taken up by the water stroke.

That said, I don't see why my idea wouldn't work, It's as simple as modifying the TV add on ever so slightly, and attaching it to the intake end. Since the metal conducts heat from the exchanger pretty well, it should vaporize the water quite well. You saw how Tweek stuck it on the end, you could do the same thing with the inner diameter of the sleeve matching the outer diameter of the Hammer's sleeve.

I don't see why this would be difficult, in my mind it would work quite well. You would have to wait longer for the heat up though, and use a bit more fuel, but the Hammer already uses very little to begin with.