CheebaChiefer

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Okay then...so my speculations were correct.

I think it's structurally set up a certain way and when you use it, your braking down those structures causing the sponge to go flat.
HIGH all...For those worried about safety of magic erasers, go to WWW.basf.com, look up the material data sheet for Basotect®, which is their trade name for melamine foam. According to those records there is no known danger regarding this product. I was surprised to learn it is heavily used in aerospace and automotive industry as a sound control material! Used in recording studios as well.
 

Glass004

Consumer Advocate
HIGH all...For those worried about safety of magic erasers, go to WWW.basf.com, look up the material data sheet for Basotect®, which is their trade name for melamine foam. According to those records there is no known danger regarding this product. I was surprised to learn it is heavily used in aerospace and automotive industry as a sound control material! Used in recording studios as well.
But are there any tests or safety data of the melanine foam under the conditions of high heat and maybe ISO? What effect do the particles have on human lung tissue? I think not. Use of melamine foam under these conditions is beyond recommended and designed use. Those safety data sheets are not relevant to conditions involved with vaping. This could be an unknown danger, sort of like asbestos was in the 40's. Go ahead, roll the dice and use the foam. You most likely wouldn't lose your pulmonary function too soon or all at once.
 

pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
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But are there any tests or safety data of the melanine foam under the conditions of high heat and maybe ISO? What effect do the particles have on human lung tissue? I think not. Use of melamine foam under these conditions is beyond recommended and designed use. Those safety data sheets are not relevant to conditions involved with vaping. This could be an unknown danger, sort of like asbestos was in the 40's. Go ahead, roll the dice and use the foam. You most likely wouldn't lose your pulmonary function too soon or all at once.

Materials safety discussions do not belong in a device-specific thread, especially if the material isn't actually used in the device. If anyone wants to continue this discussion, please start a thread for it.
 

Carlos8400

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So, the double taxing situation isn't even sorted yet and here is another problem...

Can't get an answer from DaVinci, so i though i would post here again.
Oven crack/line: normal or not?

It looks like it could be either a seam line in the oven or a crack!

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DaVinci answered: "That is actually a seam in the oven that all our ovens have. It doesn't become exposed until after use when the unit has sustained some staining."
 
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slcbdco

Brewer, Lobbyist, Vaporist
So, the double taxing situation isn't even sorted yet and here is another problem...

Can't get an answer from DaVinci, so i though i would post here again.
Oven crack/line: normal or not?

It looks like it could be either a seam line in the oven or a crack!

DSC_7124_zpsf66shvzv.jpg


DSC_71241_zpsfhzxj107.jpg


I got an RMA for a crack like that, sent it back last week
 

Glass004

Consumer Advocate
Sorry about the off topic discussion. The next inquiry regarding melamine foam safety will be reported so they can be properly directed and prevent this.
 
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CheebaChiefer

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So, the double taxing situation isn't even sorted yet and here is another problem...

Can't get an answer from DaVinci, so i though i would post here again.
Oven crack/line: normal or not?

It looks like it could be either a seam line in the oven or a crack!

DSC_7124_zpsf66shvzv.jpg


DSC_71241_zpsfhzxj107.jpg
Just got my IQ back from DaVinci for the same issue, had a .25 long black crack in the oven. They did replace with a new IQ complete w/accessories. Here is the problemo, started RMA process on 01/08/17 and recd. new IQ on 01/27/17, or 19 days! Not cool! At least I had a DBV to hold me over.
 

Carlos8400

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Just got my IQ back from DaVinci for the same issue, had a .25 long black crack in the oven. They did replace with a new IQ complete w/accessories. Here is the problemo, started RMA process on 01/08/17 and recd. new IQ on 01/27/17, or 19 days! Not cool! At least I had a DBV to hold me over.

This sucks! Mine had it from new. It really only became obvious after a couple weeks use, but i could definitely see a line there from the start.
 
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WakeAndVape

VapeLife X
So, the double taxing situation isn't even sorted yet and here is another problem...

Can't get an answer from DaVinci, so i though i would post here again.
Oven crack/line: normal or not?

It looks like it could be either a seam line in the oven or a crack!

DSC_7124_zpsf66shvzv.jpg


DSC_71241_zpsfhzxj107.jpg
Great Question,

Honestly it looks like a seam line. if it goes to the floor of the oven and disappears, thats what it is.
over time, without being OCD with the cleaning it will become visible.

if you RMA it over that, youll end up doing it every few weeks.

mine developed the same line and i thought the same thing...but ive used it for a while now after it first showed up and its getting no worse...if it was a crack it would have split by now.

a few pages ago there were pictures with legit cracks next to the seam lines...but searching the threads past is a lost art

plus my friends IQ has the same line too, just way lighter ('cause he keeps his cleaner).

that may be why they are swamped as well...there seems to be a bit of 'RMAnia' going around!

EDIT: clean it with a magic eraser and it should clean to 98% with the seam still visible
 
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Carlos8400

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Great Question,

Honestly it looks like a seam line. if it goes to the floor of the oven and disappears, thats what it is.
over time, without being OCD with the cleaning it will become visible.

if you RMA it over that, youll end up doing it every few weeks.

mine developed the same line and i thought the same thing...but ive used it for a while now after it first showed up and its getting no worse...if it was a crack it would have split by now.

a few pages ago there were pictures with legit cracks next to the seam lines...but searching the threads past is a lost art

plus my friends IQ has the same line too, just way lighter ('cause he keeps his cleaner).

that may be why they are swamped as well...there seems to be a bit of 'RMAnia' going around!

EDIT: clean it with a magic eraser and it should clean to 98% with the seam still visible


Although it looks like a seam, and it definitely goes from top to bottom of the oven, a portion of it looks to have cracked through. If i glide the provided tool over it i can definitely feel a ridge.
I really don't want to to through the trouble of RMA from the UK, to receive another one with a worst crack, or heating issues, lets not even get into shipping costs and customs...
 

WakeAndVape

VapeLife X
Although it looks like a seam, and it definitely goes from top to bottom of the oven, a portion of it looks to have cracked through. If i glide the provided tool over it i can definitely feel a ridge.
I really don't want to to through the trouble of RMA from the UK, to receive another one with a worst crack, or heating issues, lets not even get into shipping costs and customs...
the seam is a ridge that you can feel. look at the pics, most of the legit cracks weren't straight.
i have the same visible seam in mine and thought the same thing.

RMA it if you want to. your IQ, your wait.

i personally wouldn't :2c:
 

Splorgle

Actively Dismembered
Is that line in the picture the only line you see in the oven? It looks like the seam to me as well. Especially if there is no other visable lines in the oven. I gave my IQ to my girlfriend, and will get a pic of the seam after she gets home from work.

So, the double taxing situation isn't even sorted yet and here is another problem...

Can't get an answer from DaVinci, so i though i would post here again.
Oven crack/line: normal or not?

It looks like it could be either a seam line in the oven or a crack!

DSC_7124_zpsf66shvzv.jpg


DSC_71241_zpsfhzxj107.jpg


I forgot to paste this quote for my last post!
 
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Carlos8400

Well-Known Member
I will wait and see what the DaVinci rep has to say about it. Unless it gets worst i am not really worried about it. Still, i don't think it should be there in the first place.

Is that line in the picture the only line you see in the oven? It looks like the seam to me as well. Especially if there is no other visable lines in the oven. I gave my IQ to my girlfriend, and will get a pic of the seam after she gets home from work.

If you really look you can see there is a line going all the way from top to bottom. But only a small portion of it appears much darker and cracked. Basically i think the seam itself might have cracked.
No other line anywhere on the surface of the oven.

It could be that there are a few asperities at the joint area and more crap get stuck to it.
 
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CheebaChiefer

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If you really look you can see there is a line going all the way from top to bottom. But only a small portion of it appears much darker and cracked. Basically i think the seam itself might have cracked.
No other line anywhere on the surface of the oven.

It could be that there are a few asperities at the joint area and more crap get stuck to it.
Ok I don't claim to be a ceramics expert, but somebody explain why there would need to be a seam? I would assume the oven is a molded piece? The only reason I could come up with is, maybe it's a seam left that way for heat expansion?
 

jay87

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Has anybody had success using this with concentrate pads? I seem to remember that the vapir prima pads fit well in the oven. Anyone tried concentrates?

I would highly recommend NOT to use concentrates by themselves with this device.

I did a large amount of experimenting with concentrates using an Ascent oven which is very similar to the IQ oven.

What I found was this:

1. The concentrates will not fully vaporize at max temps in this type of oven
2. When I tried on my Ascent the concentrates melted, dripped through the oven, and started creating a huge amount of nasty caked on residue in an inaccessible area of the oven.


It started driving me crazy so I tore open the bottom grill of the Ascent oven and found that the bottom of the oven was absolutely covered in a ton of black concentrate residue that had been baked on to the oven.


I'd recommend dry herb only.

If you really want to try concentrates you can put a little bit mixed in with dry herb but I'd highly recommend being careful not to put so much concentrate that it melts and leaks instead of being fully absorbed by the herb.
 
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Carlos8400

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Well, it seams the CS team has woken up.

The 60$ i was charged for tax is being refunded, and after seeing the pictures posted earlier the rep answered "That is actually a seam in the oven that all our ovens have. It doesn't become exposed until after use when the unit has sustained some staining."

So all is well in the end.
 

Splorgle

Actively Dismembered
Right on, good to hear! Let us know how it turns out with more use. The IQ I bought has a pretty pronounced seam that you can see without buildup if you look closely.
 
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Nostalgia1

Active Member
So, the double taxing situation isn't even sorted yet and here is another problem...

Can't get an answer from DaVinci, so i though i would post here again.
Oven crack/line: normal or not?

It looks like it could be either a seam line in the oven or a crack!

DSC_7124_zpsf66shvzv.jpg


DSC_71241_zpsfhzxj107.jpg


DaVinci answered: "That is actually a seam in the oven that all our ovens have. It doesn't become exposed until after use when the unit has sustained some staining."
looks like the seam lol
 
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I have an 18650 battery that is within spec but does not fit in my iq device without really pushing hard. Included battery shorter and works no problem. I would like to give this battery to a frequent poster especially if they have bought a battery not from davinci and it works.
 
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Glass004

Consumer Advocate
I got my 3rd IQ via a pretty quick RMA process of 7 days not including shipping. I like the extra gear I have now, thank you DaVinci for being rather generous.
After using the Ascent for backup, I am still blown away by the improved efficiency of the IQ also finding it gives even better taste than the Ascent.
The Ascent produces more resin to clean than the IQ. I also appreciate how the IQ flavor channel increases efficiency by recapturing resin previously lost when I cleaned off the Ascent with a rag. More buzz for the bucks when you use the treated contents of the flavor channel.

All three IQs I have owned have felt hot to me, but I do 430F sessions until I have midnight black ABV. The IQ's great taste goes on longer, I hate putting down if I am still getting good vapor. The leather wrap I made looks good and keeps the fingers cool. See pics a few pages back.

The second pearl I have is just the spacer/ heat sink (plus maybe a Pyrex flower as a spacer) to enable micro loads for quick low quantity hits. I place the flower's stem in the extra pearl's hole.

I love the free Honeybird bubbler DaVinci gave me via store credits. It makes the 430F sessions so pleasurably complete.
 
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