The 2016 Presidential Candidates Thread
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His_Highness
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
Ever since Trump's PussyGate (or is that PussyGrope) I've been hearing more and more, that democrats may eventually have a shot at a majority in the House and Senate..........
Never thought I'd say this but 'Go Trump, Go'!!!! I just puked in my mouth a little......
Never thought I'd say this but 'Go Trump, Go'!!!! I just puked in my mouth a little......
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
Here ya go! Here is a little more from the big guy...
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
KellyAnn Conway has gone off the cliff. Two months ago she sounded somewhat sane. She acts as if she has chosen to drink the kool aid like the rest of the nut jobs that have surrounded themselves with this idiot. These professional that have attached themselves to the Trump bandwagon are really risking their careers and reputations IMO.
Trump is a desperate man so anything is possible as to what comes out of his mouth. He's going further over the top. It's getting pretty scary, he and he alone is his worst enemy. For everyone that's going along with Trump it is pure stupidity.
Trump is a desperate man so anything is possible as to what comes out of his mouth. He's going further over the top. It's getting pretty scary, he and he alone is his worst enemy. For everyone that's going along with Trump it is pure stupidity.
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ClearBlueLou
unbearably light in the being....
Nice dig. As @cybrguy says, we're all guests here, so let's all enjoy ourselves
Trump: Islamic State may take over U.S. if Clinton wins
Donald Trump did not hold back at a Florida rally on Wednesday, attacking Hillary Clinton as "corrupt," the media as "dishonest," the Republican Congress as ineffective — and the entire country as vulnerable to a takeover by the Islamic State if Clinton wins the Nov. 8 election.
"They are hoping and praying that Hillary Clinton becomes president of the United States, because they’ll take over not only that part of the world, they’ll take over this country," Trump told backers in Ocala, Fla.
Donald Trump did not hold back at a Florida rally on Wednesday, attacking Hillary Clinton as "corrupt," the media as "dishonest," the Republican Congress as ineffective — and the entire country as vulnerable to a takeover by the Islamic State if Clinton wins the Nov. 8 election.
"They are hoping and praying that Hillary Clinton becomes president of the United States, because they’ll take over not only that part of the world, they’ll take over this country," Trump told backers in Ocala, Fla.
Silat
When the Facts Change, I Change My Mind.
Well I have many Russian friends and that is not what they tell me.
gangababa
Well-Known Member
Trump's chief strategists (Bannon et al) and Trump's chief supporters (white men without wisdom) are all in to take back America, from the most feared, longest demonized portion of the humanity of USA (us all).
Women. The one demographic that the Republicans had not yet publicly targeted for voter suppression.
However, the Trumpian call to repeal the 19th amendment movement has begun.
Look at the maps below. Can there be any greater evidence of the effects of subjectivity.
Both men and women live in the same objective world (including the objective truth of gender difference and the distresses of sexism).
How can the future of our country be seen in such starkly contrasting visions?
How can this be; it seems that one or both points of view, or all of USA are trapped in alternate realities. Lots of 'someone' is not seeing or not acting for the greater good.
Whose reality will win out?
Will it be the dystopian future of Fuhrer Trump, promising to jail political opponents, and return women again to personal possessions?
Here is the fivethirtyeight.com map showing the electoral vote if women are returned to their Trump objectified place and only men vote.
Here is the fivethirtyeight.com map showing the electoral vote if only women were voting.
Trump Camp Touts What-If-Only-Men-Voted Map As Evidence Of Momentum
Women. The one demographic that the Republicans had not yet publicly targeted for voter suppression.
However, the Trumpian call to repeal the 19th amendment movement has begun.
Look at the maps below. Can there be any greater evidence of the effects of subjectivity.
Both men and women live in the same objective world (including the objective truth of gender difference and the distresses of sexism).
How can the future of our country be seen in such starkly contrasting visions?
How can this be; it seems that one or both points of view, or all of USA are trapped in alternate realities. Lots of 'someone' is not seeing or not acting for the greater good.
Whose reality will win out?
Will it be the dystopian future of Fuhrer Trump, promising to jail political opponents, and return women again to personal possessions?
Here is the fivethirtyeight.com map showing the electoral vote if women are returned to their Trump objectified place and only men vote.
Here is the fivethirtyeight.com map showing the electoral vote if only women were voting.
Trump Camp Touts What-If-Only-Men-Voted Map As Evidence Of Momentum
lwien
Well-Known Member
Donald Trump's Poll Denialism
"With Hillary Clinton extending her lead nationwide and in key battleground states, Trump is toying with what might be called "poll denialism," giving his supporters license to dismiss the discouraging data.
"Even the polls are crooked," he said at a Monday night rally, expressing disbelief that he is losing to Clinton in Pennsylvania. "Look, we're in a rigged system."
Trump has only topped Clinton in one scientifically conducted poll in Pennsylvania since it became clear he would be the GOP's nominee back in April, while Clinton has been in the lead in 18 of them. In the most recent polls, Clinton holds a double-digit lead there.
On Tuesday when Bill O'Reilly told him that "you're behind with women," Trump responded, "I'm not sure I believe it. I'm not sure I believe it."
Nearly every national poll finds Clinton well ahead among women, and she holds a 17-point lead among women in the most recent national polling on the race from NBC and the Wall Street Journal."
http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/12/media/donald-trump-polls/index.html
Of course, when the polls had him leading, all he was doing was telling everyone how great the polls were. It's amazing that his supporters are incapable of recognizing that.............or just about anything else.
"With Hillary Clinton extending her lead nationwide and in key battleground states, Trump is toying with what might be called "poll denialism," giving his supporters license to dismiss the discouraging data.
"Even the polls are crooked," he said at a Monday night rally, expressing disbelief that he is losing to Clinton in Pennsylvania. "Look, we're in a rigged system."
Trump has only topped Clinton in one scientifically conducted poll in Pennsylvania since it became clear he would be the GOP's nominee back in April, while Clinton has been in the lead in 18 of them. In the most recent polls, Clinton holds a double-digit lead there.
On Tuesday when Bill O'Reilly told him that "you're behind with women," Trump responded, "I'm not sure I believe it. I'm not sure I believe it."
Nearly every national poll finds Clinton well ahead among women, and she holds a 17-point lead among women in the most recent national polling on the race from NBC and the Wall Street Journal."
http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/12/media/donald-trump-polls/index.html
Of course, when the polls had him leading, all he was doing was telling everyone how great the polls were. It's amazing that his supporters are incapable of recognizing that.............or just about anything else.
lwien
Well-Known Member
Such is the problem with anecdotal evidence.
Silat
When the Facts Change, I Change My Mind.
lwien
Well-Known Member
As is yours
No it's not.
"Now, as living standards decline amid Russia’s longest recession in two decades, Putin’s approval rating is falling, down to 80 percent this month. That's its lowest level in two years (and one that other global leaders can only dream of achieving) and it could go lower with discontent in the provinces that are the bedrock of Putin’s support."
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-26/putin-s-approval-rating-is-down-to-80
"Vladimir Putin’s approval rating is at record levels, with nine out of 10 Russians saying they have a positive view of their president. Putin had an approval of 87% in July, and an all-time high of 89% in June........"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/d...dimir-putins-approval-rating-at-record-levels
I can quote many other sources. Are those sources suspect? I guess in the whole scheme of things, everything about anything is suspect.
But please understand, I'm not suggesting that what your Russian friends have told you is not true.........for them. But like I said, such is the danger of anecdotal evidence. It would be like someone from Russia coming to the USA and interviewing a few people who said that they loved Trump and then going back to Russia and telling their friends that everyone in the USA loves Trump, eh?
I would tend to trust the anecdotal evidence over the so-called authoritative evidence in 9 out of 10 whatever... private citizen sources without outside source interests IME are the least tainted of all and give the most accurate pulse reading. The silent anecdotal majorities almost always represent the unadulterated TRUTH.
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lwien
Well-Known Member
Anecdotal majorities? Snappo, he's talking about the view of a few of his friends.
lwien
Well-Known Member
And you base that on.....???
My opinion... and my personal experience in life on how things work.
lwien
Well-Known Member
See, here's the problem that, and I'll relate it back to Trump supporters. If you ask them why they think what they think is true, they could very well come up with the exact same answer that you just did. Does that make them right?
One's personal experience in life on how things work is ALWAYS filtered through ones perception of how things are and therein lies the problem with anecdotal evidence.
I will not have an issue with you, @lwien, but frankly I don't give a rat's rip whether my opinion or comment gains favor with anyone... it stands where I leave it - I'm here and then I'm gone, for whatever it's been worth. Anyone here care to go live in Russia under Putin??? Yah, we have so many free will choices, they don't.
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lwien
Well-Known Member
Lots of people moving there:
According to UN Population Division estimates, as of 2013, the Russian Federation was second only to the United States in the sheer number of immigrants.
And this is kinda interesting. Pro's and con's of moving to Russia: http://www.expatarrivals.com/russia/moscow/pros-and-cons-of-moving-to-moscow
Russia is no longer the USSR. Some things have remained the same, but lots has changed as well.
Russian propaganda against the US is alive and well. So is US propaganda against Russia. We just have to read between the lines and try to search out the truth.
Therein lies the basis of my opinionated POINT - I have posited that the TRUTH for which we search is found in the anecdotal real life accounts of the people, and not from the statistical clinicians and all-too-varied media talking heads.
grokit
well-worn member
As is yours
Both sides do a great job disguising propaganda as information.
It all depends on what flavor you like
Kool Aid... CAVEAT EMPTOR!
Both sides do a great job disguising propaganda as information.
It all depends on what flavor you like
lwien
Well-Known Member
Nor I with you Snappo, but keep in mind that you were the one that first quoted me, not the other way around. I just responded.