checkyourlibido
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When you say healthy food tastes great high, that really resonates with me. I love eating healthy and I love getting high
THC-V Weight Loss Endorsement. Anyone else?
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florduh
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I've tried THC-V from Lula CBD that's allegedly D9 dominant. Overall... not very impressed. I wanted to test it for adding a mild sativa like stimulant effect to dabs. The tricky part is getting the dosage is hard. If I add too much, it tends to just totally blunt all the effects of THC, without adding much of a stimmy effect. If I nail the ratios, it does give me a mild stimulant effect, along with some appetite suppression. But if I'm being honest, it does neither half as well as just consuming caffeine with your weed.
This might be that the Lula stuff has more Delta 8 than Delta 9, despite their claims. It might just need more experimentation. I dunno. I'd much rather just find high THCV strains, but there really aren't any in my area. Didn't really see it back in LA either.
This might be that the Lula stuff has more Delta 8 than Delta 9, despite their claims. It might just need more experimentation. I dunno. I'd much rather just find high THCV strains, but there really aren't any in my area. Didn't really see it back in LA either.
iammyself
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I gave up seeking out THCV, and just consume strains I like the effects of. My weight has stabilized at a healthy 175, so maybe it was just the mental health benefit that made it seem easy to lose the weight. Or possibly some other yet unstudied benefit of being an every-day consumer. I have no idea what to attribute my weight loss to, other than being in a better mental state all the time as a result of cannabis.
florduh
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I might be wrong, but I thought in long term studies of cannabis users, they tended to be thinner than average.
C No Ego
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cannabis and waistlines
GoldenBud
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I think it's because people are well aware of the hyper-eating effects cannabis can cause to the consumer.... THC can make you super hungry....so people try to count and calculate what they will eat, unless somebody really don't care about himself (most people are normal)cannabis and waistlines
but I really want to see another articles on this subject
Cannabis is not among the things help you reduce weight, maybe THCV but not sure, Cannabis is not like Cinnamon/Green Tea Extract/Ginger, I don't think it links to any weight loss benefits! just make the user more aware of the over-eating habits?
C No Ego
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metabolizing phytocannabinoids activates the pro homeostasis response in your cells ... obesity is anti homeostasis so regulating how all of your cells that are metabolically active tissue cells respond to one another is one of the aspects of metabolizing cannabis plant .
even for people who gorge out on junk food all the time and use cannabis all the time as well do not gain weight generally ... the persons genes of course determine that as well but even then cannabis can helpthem to establish a healthy weight for their individuality etc....
Also , phytocannabinoid metabolism is anti-inflammatory , anti-oxidant so that too helps us to manage weight as inflammation can lead to weight gain
GoldenBud
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THCD9 molecule replace the anadamide in our brain, hence more Dopamine is placed in our synapses, it yields more Dopamine in our synapses...
I think and I am pretty sure we'll find articles support the idea of Dopamine excess will cause over-eating, obesity, etc'
but, when people care about themself, they will be prepared to eat more healthy things like protein and fibers other than fat/processed/fried food. ofcourse it also depends a lot in their genetics
so... how this life style of "I want to stay fit & healthy" comes together with smoking/vaping habits? I think more and more people organize their menu if they know they're goin to smoke/vape tonight
C No Ego
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the enzymes in our stomach are being activated as well - Ghrelin, Leptin and the MTOR pathways also
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Target of rapamycin (TOR) is a highly conserved serine/threonine kinase that controls cell growth and metabolism in response to nutrients, growth factors, cellular energy, and stress. TOR, which was originally discovered in yeast, is conserved in all eukaryotes including plants, worms, flies, and mammals. The discovery of TOR led to a fundamental change in how we think about cell growth. It is not a spontaneous process that just happens when building blocks (nutrients) are available, but rather a highly regulated, plastic process controlled by TOR-dependent signaling pathways. TOR is found in 2 structurally and functionally distinct multiprotein complexes, TORC1 and TORC2. The 2 TOR complexes, like TOR itself, are highly conserved. Mammalian TORC1 (mTORC1) is rapamycin sensitive and contains mTOR, raptor, and mLST8. TORC1 in yeast and mammals mediates temporal control of cell growth by regulating several cellular processes, including translation, transcription, ribosome biogenesis, nutrient transport, and autophagy. mTORC2 is rapamycin insensitive and contains mTOR, rictor, mSIN1, PRR5, and mLST8. TORC2 in yeast and mammals mediates spatial control of cell growth by regulating the actin cytoskeleton. Thus, the 2 TOR complexes constitute an ancestral signaling network conserved throughout eukaryotic evolution to control the fundamental process of cell growth. As a central controller of cell growth, TOR plays a key role in development and aging and has been implicated in disorders such as cancer, cardiovascular disease, obesity, and diabetes. The challenge now is to understand the role of mTOR signaling to coordinate and integrate overall body growth in multicellular organisms.
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and also POMC activation
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The central melanocortin system is a well-established neuronal pathway involved in regulating energy metabolism. Pro-opiomelanocortin (POMC) neurons, agouti gene-related protein (AgRP) neurons, and their downstream cells expressing the melanocortin-3 (MC3R) and melanocortin-4 receptors (MC4R) are three key components of the central melanocortin pathway. This chapter focuses on the Pomc gene and the POMC neural system. First, I summarize the established role of this system in inhibiting food intake. Second, in light of new cutting-edge techniques, our understanding of how POMC neurons function to regulate energy homeostasis has been refined during the last few years. I describe some recent advances and discuss bidirectional effects of POMC neurons on feeding. Finally, the physiological significance beyond energy metabolism, in particular for reward and sex, is also discussed. "
POMC Neurons: From Birth to Death
POMC Neurons: From Birth to Death - PMC
The hypothalamus is an evolutionarily conserved brain structure that regulates an organism’s basic functions, such as homeostasis and reproduction. Several hypothalamic nuclei and neuronal circuits have been the focus of many studies to understand ...
but really the most basic way is how the metabolism of the phytocannabinoids activates our cell capabilities and leads them to respond via pro homeostasis response
GoldenBud
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wait, you're talking about THCV Edible? wow, is that exist?!
can't wait to try it! ((I thought you were speaking about THCV vapor....))and it doesn't give food craving, like THCD9 Edible? if you had tried it
checking this out:
Ghrelin and cannabinoids require the ghrelin receptor to affect cellular energy metabolism - PMC
► Ghrelin requires GHS-R1a for its effect on hypothalamic, liver and adipose tissue AMPK activity. ► An intact ghrelin signalling pathway is required for the effects of cannabinoids on AMPK activity. ► Ghrelin and cannabinoids stimulate hypothalamic ...
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Sorry that I skipped all the contect you were written in your previous message - I didn't understand if it's related to THCV / THCD9 in any way? please explain if possible
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~Elizabeth~
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This is incredible information, I had no idea that cannabis could help regulate glycemic levels. I actually thought the opposite to be true because I have an online friend who says that she cannot partake of the reefer because of her diabetes and how it can make her blood sugar levels too high. She appears to be misinformed
koldobrew
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Indeed, some strains are substances aimed, among other things, at satisfying hunger. That is why in legalized states, the use of THCV distillate is often prescribed in order to be able to reduce the patient's weight. It seems to me that this is an excellent solution if it is treated with due responsibility. I am sure that if you know how to use such substances correctly, you will definitely be able to reduce your weight. Personally, I handled it quite simply.
scoobindedoob
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Late to the party here, but I also have digging into THCV for the past year or so, and I love it and wanted to share some information.
I agree that the hemp-derived distillates aren't fantastic. I have had some success with eating a small chunk of the distillate; hunger seems to be delayed for 3-5 hours, some mild stimulating effects, but not much. The taste is not noticeable when eating. The taste when dabbing is pretty awful, and the smell of the raw disty is pretty plasticy. But good effects when eating small chunks about the size of half of a grain of rice.
I gave up on THCV, and then Hoku started bringing some hemp flower genetics to market with THCV. THCV hemp flower has been much more enjoyable for me, when compared to the synthesized disty.
The Villainy Series seeds on Hoku's shop are the THCV options available currently (there may be others, not sure). This series of seeds are all various crosses with Hoku's in-house strain Mad Villain, which itself is a cross between an African Landrace (1:1 thc:thcv) and a CBG strain. SWIM grew the Madvillain S1, and it is a very nice sativa. Very piney, a little lemon citrus, strong terpinolene reminiscent of Jack Herer, and a classic dank aroma. Airy fluffy buds, very tall stretchy plants. Noticeable thcv effects of hunger suppression, some sativa buzz, but no anxiety or raciness.
Occasionally thcv hemp flower is also available from Hoku and/or Flow Gardens. From Hoku, it pops up occasionally on their subscription member only store. Flow Gardens has a strain called Eraser V (Hoku genetics as well) which is 12% CBDa, 7% THCa, 3%THCv, and 2%CBDv. Out of stock right now, but should be back eventually. Similar appearance and aroma as the Madvillain, but slightly milder effects due to the heavy CBD ratio.
All of the thcv hemp flower I've tried has been a positive experience for hunger suppression, with varying levels of thca intoxication. The straight disty might be the cleanest way to get the thcv effects with minimal intoxication, but I don't love the idea of residual solvents. Eraser V is the next best thing imo
I agree that the hemp-derived distillates aren't fantastic. I have had some success with eating a small chunk of the distillate; hunger seems to be delayed for 3-5 hours, some mild stimulating effects, but not much. The taste is not noticeable when eating. The taste when dabbing is pretty awful, and the smell of the raw disty is pretty plasticy. But good effects when eating small chunks about the size of half of a grain of rice.
I gave up on THCV, and then Hoku started bringing some hemp flower genetics to market with THCV. THCV hemp flower has been much more enjoyable for me, when compared to the synthesized disty.
The Villainy Series seeds on Hoku's shop are the THCV options available currently (there may be others, not sure). This series of seeds are all various crosses with Hoku's in-house strain Mad Villain, which itself is a cross between an African Landrace (1:1 thc:thcv) and a CBG strain. SWIM grew the Madvillain S1, and it is a very nice sativa. Very piney, a little lemon citrus, strong terpinolene reminiscent of Jack Herer, and a classic dank aroma. Airy fluffy buds, very tall stretchy plants. Noticeable thcv effects of hunger suppression, some sativa buzz, but no anxiety or raciness.
Occasionally thcv hemp flower is also available from Hoku and/or Flow Gardens. From Hoku, it pops up occasionally on their subscription member only store. Flow Gardens has a strain called Eraser V (Hoku genetics as well) which is 12% CBDa, 7% THCa, 3%THCv, and 2%CBDv. Out of stock right now, but should be back eventually. Similar appearance and aroma as the Madvillain, but slightly milder effects due to the heavy CBD ratio.
All of the thcv hemp flower I've tried has been a positive experience for hunger suppression, with varying levels of thca intoxication. The straight disty might be the cleanest way to get the thcv effects with minimal intoxication, but I don't love the idea of residual solvents. Eraser V is the next best thing imo
MinnBobber
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@scoobindedoob , thanks .
I have never met a CBD flower that tasted as good or worked as well as THC flower .
I am thinking bling about trying the current hemp options, like you posted.
Flow Gardens Eraser is out of stock
Can you post when it is available, or other good THCV flower options??
MN may soon get legal adult, with small grows allowed.
Any recommendations for THC with high THCV levels, seeds??
Durban Poison or Doug’s Varin or what from which seed company??
Thanks
I have never met a CBD flower that tasted as good or worked as well as THC flower .
I am thinking bling about trying the current hemp options, like you posted.
Flow Gardens Eraser is out of stock
Can you post when it is available, or other good THCV flower options??
MN may soon get legal adult, with small grows allowed.
Any recommendations for THC with high THCV levels, seeds??
Durban Poison or Doug’s Varin or what from which seed company??
Thanks
scoobindedoob
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Regarding hemp flower, in the last couple years, there have been quite a few new crosses of Type 3 CBD genetics with Type 1 (thc) genetics, creating more flavorful type 3s (cbd) and new type 2s (mixed thc and cbd). A lot of the new stuff is much tastier than the early 2018-2020 stuff. But thc effects are still missing in most of the hemp flower available. Type 2's are becoming more common, and personally I love them; I'm not always trying to get super blasted.@scoobindedoob , thanks .
I have never met a CBD flower that tasted as good or worked as well as THC flower .
I am thinking bling about trying the current hemp options, like you posted.
Flow Gardens Eraser is out of stock
Can you post when it is available, or other good THCV flower options??
MN may soon get legal adult, with small grows allowed.
Any recommendations for THC with high THCV levels, seeds??
Durban Poison or Doug’s Varin or what from which seed company??
Thanks
THCV in legal hemp flower is still very new and somewhat rare, and I haven't heard of any other options available. I think Flow is dropping more Eraser V tomorrow or next friday. They usually drop at 4:20 p EST. You can sign up for the notification on the product page, idk how fast it will sell out, but much of their type 2 flower sells out fairly quickly.
The hemp derived THCV distillate is widely available online, it's not a bad option if eating instead of dabbing.
For thcv seeds, many of the 'hemp' seeds in the Hoku Villainy series are type 1's mixed with his thcv:thc:cbg genetic. I don't think those would be 1:1 thc:thcv, they might be 3:1:1 thc:thcv:cbg.
It looks like quite a few other online seed shops are also carrying 1:1 thc:thcv strains. Dutch Passion has THC-Victory, Royal Queen Seeds has Royal THCV, Seedsman has Diet Durban. It looks like a few seed shops advertise Doug's Varin and Durban Poison as well, but I'm not sure if those are 1:1s.
scoobindedoob
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FYI that Eraser V is now available from Flow Gardens!@scoobindedoob , thanks .
I have never met a CBD flower that tasted as good or worked as well as THC flower .
I am thinking bling about trying the current hemp options, like you posted.
Flow Gardens Eraser is out of stock
Can you post when it is available, or other good THCV flower options??
MN may soon get legal adult, with small grows allowed.
Any recommendations for THC with high THCV levels, seeds??
Durban Poison or Doug’s Varin or what from which seed company??
Thanks
MinnBobber
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Thanks @scoobindedoob