Just a performance report......all good news of course ......and sorry about the double post but I was outside the edit window. Feel free to merge
I have a "Big Shot" model butane torch that can really put out a decent flame. When I bring it to the top corner and let the flame splay out over two sides in a slightly upward angle the resulting flame coverage is pretty good.
It takes 47 seconds to reach around 165 before I pull the torch away .....actually probably closer to 167/168 since the numbers are climbing more rapidly (then it was initially) when it gets nearer to these temperatures.
The temp climbs to about 193 without any additional heat (not sure what extra time this takes) before I draw. I milk the double barrelled cylinder setup I use around 3x with the vapour getting less dense on the third chamber (taking in the vapour of both chambers in about 2 moderate sized draws....probably 7 draws total - definitely not "lung busters" but very satisfying without the urge to cough) since the time is now at 4:00 minutes and the temp has just hit 145 by the end of the draws that no longer produces vapour of any density.
I am sure that if I reheat to 200 that there is at least one milked (double) chambers worth left .....of course not as tasty, but still potent and the taste is still no where anywhere near as bad as combustion.
EDIT: I later came back and heated up to the highest I've ever got to..... 215 C and I actually filled the 2 chambers three times with the third double chamber again being lighter in density and then the vapour quitting completely at this time while the Supreme is still reading 196 C. So this basically pulls off that last usable vapour fraction from weed that has calming and highly sedative effects..... which is great to assist with getting to sleep; speaking of which..... g'nite! 
I think that with the vapour quality and amazing performance through water that this is the vape that I would probably miss using the most if it ever broke or got lost......although the Apollo would be a very close second - at least with the way I have it set up; with a couple of easy mods.
But I also really don't always feel like having a torch going if among a larger group of friends (4 plus) since that is when people start screwing around more (especially in an energetic lifted state) and inevitably accidents are most prone to happen at this time.
So a battery operated portable that performs well is also essential. This being the case, if I had to pick my sole vape it would be a very hard decision. But if I had to pick two vapes to live with .....these two would be the easy choice.
The Mighty and the Underdog are also both phenomenal vapes too though and with my pre-ordered Grasshopper and Milaana arriving sometime this summer ......I think that my VAS will be settling down to VCS (Vape Contentment Syndrome). Although that Helios really sounds cool too!
D'Oh!!
Onset VAS happening again
Cheers!
It is hard to pull yourself away from this vape!
The vapour flavour, potency and speed of extraction is second to no other of my vapes in each of these categories.
I think that any vaperist aficionado who also likes to vape at home through a bubbler......really owes it to themselves to grab one of these vapes for their collection.
It's a fraction of the cost of a Mighty......but the vapour is so much better in taste and potency!
a single one milked it much better.. I totally expected a ridiculous whitewall that I definitely couldn't handle.. Maybe someone else will have more luck..
I'm gonna try now though..
LMAO!!
